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Dems Lose....Again

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posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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Remember guys...






posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: shooterbrody

I think he is just upset bc we do not consider it a loss, we are not snowflakes or butthurt as he was expecting us to be.

I think its pretty sad, whoever started this post and titled it "dems lose...again" and we are more mature than that and see it differently...very differently.


Question - how much more money do you think it will take to go from a "mature" loss to an actual victory?




posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 06:04 PM
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1984 part two: Doublespeak Gone Wild or How Winning is Actually Losing and Vise Versa.
Now in bookstores near you!

Coming in 2018: 1984 III: We're Going Through Campaign Funds Like there's a Memory Hole in Our Pocket! AKA Someone Please Pass the Victory Gin and Keep Chugging Until You Believe this Loss was a Win.



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 06:06 PM
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a reply to: underpass61

And that doesn't even take into account the record breaking 23mil Ossoff raised during the runoff phase.

Spending in Georgia Sixth race pushes past $50 million


The analysis shows Ossoff laid out $14.2 million on ad time and spent at least another $8 million on other costs. Handel spent $2.5 million on TV, radio and cable spots and had at least $1 million in other expenses.

Both campaigns were buoyed by a tide of outside spending in the runoff phase, though Ossoff’s record-breaking fundraising haul – he took in more than $23 million since January – meant he needed less backup.

Will the Democrats finally realize that money isn't buying elections anymore?



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: DJW001

Meanwhile in Russia ...




B-but all those protests organized by liberal westerners proves that the Russians hate him just as much as Americans hate Trump!



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: underpass61

And that doesn't even take into account the record breaking 23mil Ossoff raised during the runoff phase.



Yeah I couldn't find a reliable graph for the final tally - it probably skews even more. But hey, it's immature to point these things out



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: AboveBoard
Well, now, it all depends on expectations, doesn't it?

This was a hard red district. A Democrat nearly won without even getting to a runoff, and then only lost by a couple percentage points??

Geez. Not too shabby. And not good news at all for Republicans. Republicans in purple districts can look at that point swing and the passion behind it, as well as the odds against Ossoff to begin with, and they can wonder whether or not they will survive.

What you see as a simple win/loss I see as an indication that what should have been an easy win for Republicans turned into a nail-biter, like it was a normal swing district.

It ain't the individual battles, friends, it's the big picture. Independents are swinging left in greater numbers, and the left in general is realizing they need to get off their butts and vote.

Meanwhile, approval for Trump remains historically low, and enthusiasm on the right is waning, except among the hardcore Trump supporters.

Now, Republicans are generally never going to convert to being Democrats. They will fall in line for local races. But if their enthusiasm wanes, if they get less folks to the polls...

Sure the Dems wanted their "Mighty Ducks" "Rocky" Disney ending where the total underdog pulls out an epic win against massive odds. Of course they are disappointed that photo-finish didn't happen. But not winning this seat isn't the entire story, now is it?

The tide is turning, friends. And that is a "win."


That is a very long-winded way of saying that Ossoff lost because he didn't have a chance.

Left/Right, it makes no difference. Once this prime political illusion is finally destroyed, perhaps enough people will wake up and take Mother Earth back.



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
Remember guys...




That is pure comedic gold!

Second.



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: veracity

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: shooterbrody

I think he is just upset bc we do not consider it a loss, we are not snowflakes or butthurt as he was expecting us to be.

I think its pretty sad, whoever started this post and titled it "dems lose...again" and we are more mature than that and see it differently...very differently.


Facts are Dems are 0 for 5 since Nov. That's a clean 5-0 sweep. By any stretch of the imagination it qualifies as "Dems lost again".

Funny enough though, the Dems are treating this like their viewpoints on participation trophies, there are no winners and losers, everyone gets an award for just showing up.


Very telling that republicans on this board are making fun of dems for being positive. We would be made fun of if we were upset and butthurt as well (which we do not do).

Just very telling (and not surprising)


I'm not a republican.

But if you want to celebrate finishing 2nd place in a two person race, go right ahead.



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 07:04 PM
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a reply to: MysticPearl

do you know how to 2nd rate think?

1st rate thinking...Yes, he lost a 2 person race...that is true and "we lost" i guess.

2nd rate thinking...But the margin was very slim in a deep red state...that speaks volumes.

I wish he would have won, yes...but that would have been earth shattering (and great), however, I am glad that democrats are either out voting more in Georgia or there are more democrats than I once thought in the deep red bible belt south.

Its sad that there are so many on this board who can only first rate think ..."na na na na na, we won you lost"

I also practice compassion and looking for that silver lining...there always is one.

I understand why so many on this board (the same ones making fun of me for being positive) do not understand positivity and compassion...(especially taking away healthcare from millions bc "i dont want to pay for it") but that is a whole other thread.

(see what I did there, the healthcare blurb was an example of ones 1st rate thinking as well as lack of compassion)


edit on 21-6-2017 by veracity because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: veracity

www.merriam-webster.com...

of second or inferior quality or value


So your silver lining out of this is only seen by those who employ inferior quality thinking?

I'm not seeing that as a positive, man.



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: Comeuppance

i have relatives in Chamblee, Doraville, Decatur, Smyrna and in south Ga Donalsonville.
use to go up in the summer when i was a kid and spend a couple of weeks with different ones.
been a long time since i been up there, last time we all got together was about 2 years ago at Seminole Park.
that's were we had the family reunions, it was about half way for the ones from Fl and GA.



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: veracity

www.merriam-webster.com...

of second or inferior quality or value


So your silver lining out of this is only seen by those who employ inferior quality thinking?

I'm not seeing that as a positive, man.


our definitions are quite different for my example, please tell me you understand what I am saying.

1st rate thinking...very easy to do, anyone can do it, even a 1st grader..."na na na na boo boo...we won you lost, eat a cacka poo poo"

2nd rate thinking...takes more maturity and thinking outside the box

Im sure my definition of these ways of thinking are not yet in google search and they may have different names such as ...

immature thinking vs. mature thinking.

but please tell me you understand what I am saying.

Yes, its fun to win and throw it in the others team face sometimes, and its ok, however, there comes a time when you look at it as a good game, learn from it and slap the opponent on the back, high-5.



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: veracity

You're celebrating a participation trophy.

Far different than the rhetoric coming from the left up until election night and well, since.
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posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 11:34 AM
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originally posted by: Outlier13
It's like a bad dream that never ends. I get that the political climate of late has been volatile to say the least. I'm just curious how much this loss hurts the dems?





Ossoff had a major hurdle to overcome, and almost did just that. If you look at the history of the margin of GOP reps for the 6th district, the trend is in the Dems favor. Handle won by only 4 points. Price won the district before her with 20 more points. The district is 60 percent republican, and has been in republican hands since 1978. It's not a silver lining, but there are a lot of lessons learned from this election that can be applied to other races throughout the country.

Is it disappointing? Yes. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose in political battles. And, yes, politics is a zero-sum game where to the victor go all of the spoils. But no matter what, you mustn't become demoralized. That is what the other side wants -- to make their opponents feel powerless.

I hope Handel is a good representative for our district. I don't have much hope for that happening, though. Price wasn't a good rep for us. His constituent services were nearly non-existent. Even for minor things like setting up a meeting with one of his staff in DC. He also actively worked to ensure money from the American Recovery and Reinvestment act in 2008 didn't come to the sixth. This was in stark contrast to the more liberal districts around Atlanta, where there were roads being repaved, streetscapes being retooled and pot holes being repaired, each with a sign saying where the money came from.

So, the sixth has a new rep for the time being. Time will tell if she's effective for us or not.



posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: icanteven

FYI Ossoff did worse than Clinton did in that district during the 2016 election... and Handel got 2.5% more than Trump did. CNN called this special election a "barometer" for anti-Trump sentiment. Didn't quite work out the way they planned, did it?

Even TYT recognizes that the Dems keep pushing candidates with big bank accounts but no real message besides "I'm not Trump" and wonder why they keep losing. It's going to be a massacre in 2018.

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posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 04:42 PM
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This just proves that Violence and Trump hating is not working. Dems have no message because Trump stole their message. They only have socialism as their message. That is not enough to attract moderates.



posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 08:32 PM
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I appreciate the thoughtful post.

The other side does not want to make the dems feel demoralized. Yes, some on the right do but most on the right that I have personally known (as well as the left) are pretty decent and fair people. As far as ATS is concerned I think there are a few here (myself included) who like to antagonize some on the left here.

True since 1978 that district was primarily republican. The somewhat narrow win margin does not indicate that district is leaning more left. It means that its a simple sign of the evolving tides of change in political beliefs. The republicans and democrats of the late 70s do not or at least rarely exist today.

Honestly had the left not become so vitriolic over the last year and a half I would be willing to bet Ossoff would have been the victor. This is why Ossoff lost. Because of the mainstream dems. THAT was Ossoff's major hurdle.

People get tired of the daily bull sh!t spewed out by the left. MSM, social media, Hollywood...it's non f***king stop. I get tired of hearing the left attempt to compare the hate of today's political climate with that during the Obama years. This is a tit for tat argument which is completely ignorant. There is not even a remote comparison and any dem who thinks Obama received the same level of hate on an hourly basis week after week is simply in denial, ignorant, or both. It does not justify what we see today.

I can guarantee any democrat this. If you don't want Trump to be your president for a total of 8 years then you need to stop the tide of non-stop BS hate. You will only galvanize the middle and the right against you. I don't think the MSM and social media trolls represent the majority of the right or left. But if it's what you see and hear on a daily basis then it starts to become how you think of the other side.



posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 08:33 PM
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a reply to: amfirst1

Wow...so right. I literally responded to another poster's comment to my OP and used your example and had not yet even read your post. Just goes to show we are all thinking along the same lines.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 08:18 AM
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Political Correctness and the hypocrisy that goes with it, along with Identity Politics is causing the dems to lose EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Honestly for #s sake, did you learn nothing from 2016? Also apparently "sexism" and "women's rights" only matter when the woman in question leans left? I didn't see liberals crying sexism for not supporting Handler or Le Penne in France. I thought the future was female? Democrats are a special kind of clueless



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