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North Korean torture victim, Otto Warmbier dies.

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posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Please stop being reasonable.




posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: MetalChickAmy
What is Trump going to do about it? Write an angry tweet?


At least your president, Donald J. Trump, got the kid home.

Unlike weak failed dimwit Obama...

Under Obama, he was alive
Under Trump, they tossed a brain dead husk to mock him.
You can spin it any way you desire.


How do you know how long the young man was brain damaged?

At least Trump got what was left of him home while Obama fretted about transsexual bathrooms.


Amen, amen.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: SBMcG

Because he's weak, remember?

But mighty, powerful Trump got Otto back, why not the other three?

Or are you not interested in that inconvenient truth?



They were all prosecuted under Korean law. You can only have a sentence removed by arguing humanitarian grounds. Him being sick allowed the Trump administration to argue he needed to be released. After all stealing a poster shouldn't be a death sentence.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: Restricted

originally posted by: Mordekaiser
a reply to: Restricted

I'm sure it was HIM and not people whining that he polarized it and won because he's black. /s

Racists are easy to spot. They talk about race first.

Most ignorant people that hate Obama, hate him because of Race. Only an idiot would deny that.


As are lemmings for choosing the same cliff, ad nauseum.


Just because I'm liberal doesn't mean I'm Democrat.

Welcome to the future buddy, your party is bought out. It stinks of money and lack of care.

Almost nothing Obama did is going to compare.

Eject this fool and push up a REAL Republican President.

or 100% cater to the alt-right hicks that not only don't actually care, but are worthless people who will ultimately undoubtedly inevitably be replaced by robots. Whatever makes more sense right?
edit on 19-6-2017 by Mordekaiser because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: MetalChickAmy
What is Trump going to do about it? Write an angry tweet?


At least your president, Donald J. Trump, got the kid home.

Unlike weak failed dimwit Obama...

Under Obama, he was alive
Under Trump, they tossed a brain dead husk to mock him.
You can spin it any way you desire.


How do you know how long the young man was brain damaged?

At least Trump got what was left of him home while Obama fretted about transsexual bathrooms.


...why the hell are you thinking about transsexuals? you have a very odd fixation.

Autopsy will clear this all up anyhow. Will know when and why all this came to be hopefully.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:18 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: SBMcG


That was me and I also qualified it by admitting that I should never be president.

That's no where near as disgusting as some of the blame-shifting and excuse-making by leftists here.


i know it was you
what blame shifting?

this dude went to a hostile country and did some stupid #.
did he deserve to die? no



at least we agree on that much



should our government intervene every time an american citizen gets busted in a place like that? no



I hope you never end up in a #hole like that then, or at the very least not while people who could care less are in power.



did they torture him? no evidence of that

did he hand himself? quite possibly

what did they have to gain by torturing him?

as an adult he made the choice to go to a country where anything could happen to him and safety is not a guarantee.
well something happened to him


Give it time, after the autopsy we will know. As far as what did they have to gain, I would think that would be obvious....why does any regime use torture as a means of gaining information?



and yeah why didnt trump the all mighty bring the others home


give him time



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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Ho ho ho! Wo now!

A tier one unit evacuated a "brain dead" patient! Fact!

Have you seen his neck? 🙄

Sometimes, the most obvious is overlooked



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: SBMcG


Why didn't Obama bring ANY of them home?

Are you sure there's any American left alive to bring home at this point?


dont know
and dont know

your turn

so is it not possible this kid hung himself?
you are pretty quick to jump on torture

you say you have a degree in psychology.

what would the stress of his situation do to a person like that?
we are not talking some hardened soldier or a bad ass
we are talking about your every day college kid

would that break a person? could it break a person?

to me that is far more likely than they tortured him


My Psych degree is 25 years old and I have never worked in the field -- I want to be clear about that.

As for stress, absolutely. But stress, terror, duress, and even torture don't necessarily make someone turn to suicide. Actually, quite the opposite. Survival instincts are heightened in many cases.

We have no idea what really happened, but if he did try to hang himself, there would have almost certainly been damage to his neck -- broken bones, etc.

There is no evidence that he tried to hang himself.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:20 PM
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Maybe we should take out their beloved missile program



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: Darkphoenix77

information from a college kid?
ok


still waiting to hear why it is outside the realm of possibility to think the stress of the situation was too much for the kid and he hung himself
i would like to hear from the person with the degree

i have only asked 3 times

edit^^^^thanks for replying.....appreciate it

lets be fair

just like there is no evidence of the hanging apparently there is no evidence of torture either
edit on 19-6-2017 by TinySickTears because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: MetalChickAmy
What is Trump going to do about it? Write an angry tweet?


At least your president, Donald J. Trump, got the kid home.

Unlike weak failed dimwit Obama...

Under Obama, he was alive
Under Trump, they tossed a brain dead husk to mock him.
You can spin it any way you desire.


How do you know how long the young man was brain damaged?

At least Trump got what was left of him home while Obama fretted about transsexual bathrooms.


...why the hell are you thinking about transsexuals? you have a very odd fixation.

Autopsy will clear this all up anyhow. Will know when and why all this came to be hopefully.


How does mentioning something one time make it a "very odd fixation"?

Facts are facts. You couldn't back up your truly sick claim that Mr. Warmbier was fine under Obama, but returned brain-damaged to Trump.

Weird, wouldn't you agree?
edit on 19-6-2017 by SBMcG because: Obama was a coward



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:22 PM
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a reply to: Restricted

I'm no defender of NK or communism in general. But how are you describing "civilization"? Electricity? We have many, many people in the US, some with electricity, that are denied basic, decent living conditions every day.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:22 PM
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On topic this is not a Obama hate thread?



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: Mordekaiser

originally posted by: Restricted

originally posted by: Mordekaiser
a reply to: Restricted

I'm sure it was HIM and not people whining that he polarized it and won because he's black. /s

Racists are easy to spot. They talk about race first.

Most ignorant people that hate Obama, hate him because of Race. Only an idiot would deny that.


As are lemmings for choosing the same cliff, ad nauseum.


Just because I'm liberal doesn't mean I'm Democrat.

Welcome to the future buddy, your party is bought out. It stinks of money and lack of care.

Almost nothing Obama did is going to compare.

Eject this fool and push up a REAL Republican President.

or 100% cater to the alt-right hicks that not only don't actually care, but are worthless people who will ultimately undoubtedly inevitably be replaced by robots. Whatever makes more sense right?


So we're all worthless? Because we voted for change in the political sector? Ridiculous.

I think you're just a little narcissistic.

Your blanket ad hominem is off-topic. I'm done responding to you.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: SBMcG


Why didn't Obama bring ANY of them home?

Why should he? It's not like this kid was innocent he willing broke the law in another nation. Had Obama forced NK to hand him over that would give more brain-dead idiots the courage to break laws thinking they can get away with it simply because they're American.
edit on 9750000003730America/ChicagoMon, 19 Jun 2017 17:24:37 -05002010 by buster2010 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: SBMcG

Dude had to die for taking a propaganda poster. WTF kind of planet are we living on. A stinking piece of paper. How sad and sick is that.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Please stop being reasonable.




posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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a reply to: Tarzan the apeman.

And the millions in Iraq 🇮🇶
All those "weapons of mass destruction"

Tomato 🍅



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: SBMcG


Why didn't Obama bring ANY of them home?

Why should he? It's not like this kid was innocent he willing broke the law in another nation. Had Obama forced NK to hand him over that would give more brain-dead idiots the courage to break laws thinking they can get away with it simply because they're American.


Yet you will make excuses for the 20 million illegal aliens here?

According to you, it should be perfectly fine to return these millions of law-breakers back to their home countries brain-dead, right?



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: Restricted

I'm no defender of NK or communism in general. But how are you describing "civilization"? Electricity? We have many, many people in the US, some with electricity, that are denied basic, decent living conditions every day.


This is an entire country we're talking about, not isolated pockets of it.

These people are reliving Soviet Russia under Stalin.



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