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North Korean torture victim, Otto Warmbier dies.

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posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:01 PM
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originally posted by: SBMcG

Healthy 21 year-old males don't end up like this for no reason, bub.



You are correct..... Do you have evidence of exactly what that reason is?




posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Does anyone on this sight read anything not related to praising trump??? He contracted botulism....now that may or may not be true, but that is what was reported!



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: SBMcG
a reply to: dantanna

I agree with you in principle, but the time has come for America to be feared again.


Civis Americanus sum comes to mind...



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

I agree, he does have some bad ass generals that knows exactly what to do and how to do it.

Regardless of this young man been call "stupid" for going to NK is not reason why he had to died at the results of mistreatment by the government of that country.

That is unacceptable.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: SBMcG



Healthy 21 year-old males don't end up like this for no reason, bub.


the reason is obvious to most, but not you, i'm gonna agree that you know to little to be so opinionated.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:04 PM
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a reply to: kurthall

Is North Korea so backwards that they can't even treat botulism?



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:05 PM
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There needs to be a full inquest into this and NK should be made to answer some questions - the world community including China(!) needs to take a tough stance.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: Ameilia

This is what I'm thinking as well. Sure he could've been tortured but to what end? He better serves NK alive.

Also, wasn't his return more facilitated by Un's BFF Dennis Rodman. Why are people giving credit to Trump?
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posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: Rikku
a reply to: SBMcG



Healthy 21 year-old males don't end up like this for no reason, bub.


the reason is obvious to most, but not you, i'm gonna agree that you know to little to be so opinionated.



I have an MA in Psychology. I know more about neurological disorders than you do.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:08 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Botulism just killed someone here in So Cali last week!!!! She was in the hospital for days and then died, so it does happen.......BTW the botulism was from Nachos at a gas station!!!!



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:08 PM
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originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Ameilia
a reply to: Xcathdra

They did rule out torture. I figure he may have hanged himself, but they stopped him. That brain damage indicates lack of oxygen to the brain so, it's a fair guess.


I have not heard that, nor do I believe it. There are numerous forms of torture that could have caused his final condition without being detectable.


You haven't heard it because it's A theory that I made up. I did not read that theory in the news.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:08 PM
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Sad he died. Don't go to North Korea.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: SBMcG
a reply to: dantanna

I agree with you in principle, but the time has come for America to be feared again.


Civis Americanus sum comes to mind...


Yes!

It's time to make sure that if "these citizens of Rome" are harmed by a foreign power, there will be HELL TO PAY!



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:11 PM
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"It is our sad duty to report that our son, Otto Warmbier, has completed his journey home. Surrounded by his loving family, Otto died today at 2:20pm," a statement from the family said.

It said the student was "unable to speak, unable to see and unable to react to verbal commands".

BBC.com - Otto Warmbier, US student sent home from N Korea, dies.

Sounds like he might have been brain dead and not in a coma as originally stated. Pupillary light reflex (eyes) is what is checked for signs of life. He was probably quickly determined to not have a reaction. From Thursday to today, the family was told and allowed to say final farewells.

Sorry that this thread became a Trumpster Rally.


Glad the family got their son back. F# shame what happened to him. Sorry they had to let him go.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:11 PM
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It's truly sick how leftists descended on this thread to deflect from this act of barbarism.

I've always known what side they were on, I guess they don't even try to hide it anymore.

This young man was at the least mistreated. The Norks have a long history of torture.

This is an Act of War as far as I'm concerned.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:11 PM
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As sad as this is, when is it ever a good idea to go visit a hell hole.

I can't imagine even drunk or doped up that most folks would say, "road trip to visit Kim".

Even if you did, you would be an idiot to steal souvenirs.

There are a lot of historical places in the world that may have been safe a century or two ago to visit but now even with an army at your back it would be a bad idea.

But as far as reaction, no more than a few sanctions and maybe a strongly worded letter.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:12 PM
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The young man father make the comment publicly about Trump and thank him for his efforts of returning his son home.

Otto Warmbier's Father Thanks Trump Administration for 'Bringing Otto Home'

pjmedia.com...



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: MetalChickAmy
What is Trump going to do about it? Write an angry tweet?


At least your president, Donald J. Trump, got the kid home.

Unlike weak failed dimwit Obama...

Are they not both feathers representing the same Eagle?
On topic, may the Light of the Lord continue to guide he on his soul journey.
Out of box hopefully those who are handling his vessel are using precautions just in case to prevent spread of any possible infection.
No doom porn 1 just considered what if infected somehow and gestation occurs during death?
Sad got to be cautious like this on such a beautiful world but you can't second guess certain malevolent potentials...
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posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

He didn't have botulism. That was a lie by NK. The US doctors said he had no signs of ever having botulism.

They also ruled out torture, since he had no physical signs. I agree with another poster that he was asphixiated by someone or tried to hang himself. His condition indicated that he had lack of oxygen to the brain.

The parents must have euthanized him. They said he was able to breathe on his own. He had a feeding tube, i presume. It must have been hell for them to make that decision.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: Bramble Iceshimmer
As sad as this is, when is it ever a good idea to go visit a hell hole.

I can't imagine even drunk or doped up that most folks would say, "road trip to visit Kim".

Even if you did, you would be an idiot to steal souvenirs.

There are a lot of historical places in the world that may have been safe a century or two ago to visit but now even with an army at your back it would be a bad idea.

But as far as reaction, no more than a few sanctions and maybe a strongly worded letter.


By that logic we have about 20 million illegals in this country who deserve the same treatment, right?



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