Democrats To Further Demonstrate Their Immoral Nature Starting Tonight in the U.S. Senate.

To block legislation on what would normally be unanimous consent is really a treasonous act. It's stopping government against the people's will.

I believe we'd have the authority to rip them from their seats.

originally posted by: Tempter
To block legislation on what would normally be unanimous consent is really a treasonous act. It's stopping government against the people's will.

I believe we'd have the authority to rip them from their seats.

You believe wrongly. In fact, you are very badly informed indeed.

And we have the GOP evil nature of taking life-saving health insurance from 24 million people

a reply to: carewemust

Great!! it's about gwaddamn time they found their balls and fight back, they play this stupid game of dodge ball Russia while the GOP, sneak through all kinds of damaging legislation meant to enrich the super rich even more at the cost of the poor and middle class.. and for starters they should adopt techniques from when the GOP was the party of minority leadership .

How many filibusters they carried out??..

a reply to: Willtell

what world do you live in that insurance saves lives?
have the er's closed in your bizzaro land?

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Willtell

what world do you live in that insurance saves lives?
have the er's closed in your bizzaro land?

Oh, there's the odd bit of anecdotal evidence. Try surviving for very long in the US without healthcare insurance when you have something like cancer. You'll have a horrible shock coming to you.

a reply to: carewemust

your statement might have been true... if all the states had extended their medicaid...
they didn't, and the obamacare site just referred them to medicaid I believe.

a reply to: DBCowboy

IDK how educated people can't understand that concept. My neighbor just got insurance through his job and for a family has the ductable is $14,000, or 8000 just for him. THE dude would have to get hit by a car to use his plan. The ACA turn to my wife's insurance plan provided by the hospital she works at into s***. She can't even see the doctor that she's been going to her whole life for her thyroid under her plan.
So this might be mean of me but I have a question to the 23 million people who can't get their own insurance without the government subsidizing their plan. What about the rest of the country?

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

You have evidence of people being turned away that need emergency services? Please by all means post it.

a reply to: shooterbrody

And who do you think pays when a person can't afford their trip to the ER?

Also last time I checked cancer wasn't treated in the ER. Who's paying for their treatment?

a reply to: Xcalibur254

We all do.

That is not the point I was making.
In the usa EVERYONE who shows up at the er and needs treatment gets it. Insurance or no.
Stating that taking away insurance will kill people is not true.

Jesus Christ I lost my insurance because of obamacare, and no one in my family died. Even with the crappy policy I had to take because mine was no longer available.

Also last time I checked cancer wasn't treated in the ER.

You going to show where someone was turned away?

No worries
Keep on spouting the bs party line. "people will die"....everyone knows that is bs....OMG no one ever had cancer before obamacare

a reply to: RogueWaterC1

The 300 million would be forced to pay for the 23 million.

Isn't socialism fun!

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: RogueWaterC1

The 300 million would be forced to pay for the 23 million.

Isn't socialism fun!

Oh come on now, it's more like 323 million paying for each other. And you know it.

a reply to: allsee4eye

Why do you refuse yup understand that the 2 wars Bush started raised the deficit drastically and is the cause of our current debt.?

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Why can't we just pay for ourselves?

We used to be able to do that not so long ago. But we get government involved and now we have to pay for everyone else.

I'm not naïve enough to think that we can go back. We'll see single-payer/socialized medicine here soon enough. They'll call it something different. Probably something like "Patriot Health" or "Freedom Care".

But regardless of the name, we'll still get screwed.

And Libtards enjoy it!

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

In your scenario every one would contribute. That is not actually how things are working at the present time.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Willtell

what world do you live in that insurance saves lives?
have the er's closed in your bizzaro land?

Oh, there's the odd bit of anecdotal evidence. Try surviving for very long in the US without healthcare insurance when you have something like cancer. You'll have a horrible shock coming to you.

Exactly. And while younger members here don't have this experience, those of us over 50 have seen pleas for help for medical bills on our Facebook feeds. Two people I know died recently (after putting up GoFundMe campaigns) because they couldn't afford medication/treatment and friends couldn't raise the money either.

I was an Army brat, so I experienced "socialized medicine" - when I was sick, my parents could take me to a military hospital where I would get treatment. My appendectomy was covered, as was my tonsillectomy. My brother's joint and bone problems were covered. Nowadays, my daughter can't get to a doctor to see about her blood pressure because Texas rejected the supplement coverage for Obamacare and a simple visit costs around $100 (and then there's the meds) and she makes just too little to cover that.

I would like for others to have the same access to medical care that I had for my youth... to go to the clinic or hospital any time they needed help and not be worried about costs. If we could do that, the amount of time lost to worker illness and the number of people on welfare because of health issues would be reduced.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Why can't we just pay for ourselves?

We used to be able to do that not so long ago.

No, we didn't. The wealthy and the upper middle class did, but the poor and the non-Whites didn't.


[qoute]I'm not naïve enough to think that we can go back. We'll see single-payer/socialized medicine here soon enough. They'll call it something different. Probably something like "Patriot Health" or "Freedom Care".

But regardless of the name, we'll still get screwed.

I take it that you've got a decent paying job and don't have a family with health issues that's living month-to-month on just barely enough for groceries and rent? You may feel differently if your situation changes.

a reply to: Byrd

You do understand that was not in any way "socialized".
Your parent that served received that benefit because they served. It was in no way free.
That particular benefit is still available and for the same cost. Those who serve and their dependents still get that same benefit you experienced.

Jesus Christ you are an educator how the hell can you deny the cost of that benefit?