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Democrats To Further Demonstrate Their Immoral Nature Starting Tonight in the U.S. Senate.

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posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Yeah and it had nothing to do with him being a socialist which he admitted in 2013 right? What's the point of supporting socialist policies within the US? Please tell me how becoming a socialist nation benefits us? Socialism promises prosperity, equality, and security but it has only delivered poverty and tyranny.

Here is a link where you can see first hand how great socialism has worked over the years:

en.wikipedia.org...

The left can't deny the fact Obama has always been a socialist. This is why the vast majority of his policies were met with resistance. Not because he was a "democrat". Hell...I would have taken a classical democrat ALL DAY over Barrack Hussein Obama.




posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 02:42 PM
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At least the democrats have the balls to do something. I'm not mad at them, I'm more mad that republicans are going to completely squander the opportunity to get stuff done while they have control of literally everything.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Zero, really. If you're referring to the sequester you probably also remember how the Dems, just a few months later, enacted the policies the GOP was asking for... except took the credit for it themselves. That sequester was nothing more than a power play by the Dems.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: darkbake
How many times did Republicans do the same thing during the Obama administration? There was even a government shutdown a few years ago due to Republicans trying to stall.


I don't recall the Republicans ever intentionally grinding Senate business to an indefinite halt, just to delay the inevitable. They certainly weren't putting U.S. citizen lives at risk, as Democrats are promising to do.


(Stares)
(Laughs hysterically)
You have a very short memory, don't you? And I find your depiction of all Democrats as immoral and un-American as ludicrous to the point of satire. You cannot possibly be serious. And if you are then you are staggeringly badly informed.


You're welcome to post a link to what you're referring to, AngryCymraeg.

1. Democrats run the majority of Anti-American Main Stream Media.

2. Democrats will be grinding U.S. Senate business to a halt, starting tonight.

3. Democrats are running the "Not My President!" campaign against the President of the United States.

4. Democrats are responsible for inciting most the political violence in the streets.

5. Democrats cheered their martyred hero, James T. Hodgkinson, after he attempted to assassinate Republican Rep. Steve Scalise last week.

Get the point????


No. I fail to see anything other than the fact that you do not understand the media, or the way that democracy works. I'd like to point the sheer hypocrisy on display in the rest of your answer. The GOP did their best to make Obama a one term President, as Mitch McConnell actually said. The GOP did their best to delegitimise Obama in every way shape and form, even touting the most nonsensical things about his family. Your point about the political violence doesn't scan - inciting how? Where? When?
Point 5 enraged me. No they did not cheer him. They disowned him.
You have an agenda. Fair enough, it's a free world. You seem to think that Democrats are un-American and immoral. I deeply and passionately disagree. My wife is a Democrat - and a very proud American who could, if she wanted to, join the DAR. We can disagree all we like. But attacking people just because they are Democrats shows that you are a part of the problem that you affect to want to cure. You are a part of the swamp. Which ain't going anywhere as a direct result.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 03:00 PM
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originally posted by: FauxMulder
At least the democrats have the balls to do something. I'm not mad at them, I'm more mad that republicans are going to completely squander the opportunity to get stuff done while they have control of literally everything.


Just like the Dems did the 1st two years they controlled the house?

Anyone seeing a pattern here that should want you to kick em all to the curb?



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: carewemust




Tonight they will begin holding up Senate business, effectively throwing a monkey wrench into U.S. government legislative processes.


Same way the repubs did for 8 years under obama. The repubs and dems are the same. Stop towing that party line man.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 03:21 PM
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I just realized something...

The right-wing has gone so FAR to the RIGHT (look at Reagan's policies)...

ANYONE and EVERYONE who isn't "with them" now looks "radical".

When you shift so HARD to one side, everyone appears to be FAR away and radical...

*rubs chin*



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: DanteGaland
I just realized something...

The right-wing has gone so FAR to the RIGHT (look at Reagan's policies)...

ANYONE and EVERYONE who isn't "with them" now looks "radical".

When you shift so HARD to one side, everyone appears to be FAR away and radical...

*rubs chin*


This is not accurate at all.

Trump is closer to a centrist if anything historically. He is not very religious, he is pro LGBT rights, he is mostly anti war. If Sessions goes after marijuana - you may have a case there.

The left on the other hand now believes there are 40 some genders or something, that White skin alone makes people evil and privilaged, That total open borders are a good idea, that blacks are being hunted and shot by police (the actual statistics show the exact opposite, but why let reality stop a good narrative), that stopping conservative speakers by rioting is not a violation of free speech, that socialism is a great idea, and that embracing sharia law is somehow feminist.

It is not even close - the right has moved towards the center the left has moved so far left, far left people like bill maher and Oliver Stone are getting attacked for not being far left enough.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

What a bunch of hypocrites you conservatives are... you are all anti-American.. and you are all anti-intelligence.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: DanteGaland
I just realized something...

The right-wing has gone so FAR to the RIGHT (look at Reagan's policies)...

ANYONE and EVERYONE who isn't "with them" now looks "radical".

When you shift so HARD to one side, everyone appears to be FAR away and radical...

*rubs chin*


This is not accurate at all.

Trump is closer to a centrist if anything historically. He is not very religious, he is pro LGBT rights, he is mostly anti war. If Sessions goes after marijuana - you may have a case there.

The left on the other hand now believes there are 40 some genders or something, that White skin alone makes people evil and privilaged, That total open borders are a good idea, that blacks are being hunted and shot by police (the actual statistics show the exact opposite, but why let reality stop a good narrative), that stopping conservative speakers by rioting is not a violation of free speech, that socialism is a great idea, and that embracing sharia law is somehow feminist.

It is not even close - the right has moved towards the center the left has moved so far left, far left people like bill maher and Oliver Stone are getting attacked for not being far left enough.


I don't know where you got the above, but I fear that you are very badly informed. The perception in the UK is that the GOP has been veering more and more rightward ever since the Rockefeller Republicans fled and the Dixiecrats joined in the 1970's-1980's. Frankly, when compared to the Conservative in the UK, the GOP bears no resemblance even to Reagan's GOP. Hell, Reagan would probably be an Independent if he was alive right now.
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posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

The OP is so disingenuous... A political party doing a political thing to delay a repeal of Obamacare equates to being radical and anti-American? Why are you pushing Right wing extremism?


edit on 19-6-2017 by spiritualzombie because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:20 PM
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They're essentially arguing over going down with the ship or jumping over board into frigid waters with no plan of rescue.

None of this merits our attention. I'll pay them mind when they actually formulate a pragmatic plan as opposed to just stoking people's fears and emotions in order to solidify their power and control over them.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
June 19, 2017

Additional PROOF that Democrats are Anti-America and Anti-American. Tonight they will begin holding up Senate business, effectively throwing a monkey wrench into U.S. government legislative processes.

Completely unlike the blocking and resisting the Republikkkans have been doing to everything Obama and Dem for the past 8 years? Their greedy heartless ignorant selfish 'health care plan' needs to die asap! (Before they can put the oldsters and poor out in the streets so they can easily feed upon them!)



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: namelesss

God isn't compassionate. Where there is life. There is death. Where there joy. There is pain. Obamacare is against natural selection, against God, against nature. Obamacare will die sooner or later, whether you like it or not.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: carewemust




Tonight they will begin holding up Senate business, effectively throwing a monkey wrench into U.S. government legislative processes.


Same way the repubs did for 8 years under obama. The repubs and dems are the same. Stop towing that party line man.


Democrats don't want failing ObamaCare replaced. That's murder..LITERALLY. Big difference.
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posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: DanteGaland
I just realized something...

The right-wing has gone so FAR to the RIGHT (look at Reagan's policies)...

ANYONE and EVERYONE who isn't "with them" now looks "radical".

When you shift so HARD to one side, everyone appears to be FAR away and radical...

*rubs chin*


This is not accurate at all.

Trump is closer to a centrist if anything historically. He is not very religious, he is pro LGBT rights, he is mostly anti war. If Sessions goes after marijuana - you may have a case there.

The left on the other hand now believes there are 40 some genders or something, that White skin alone makes people evil and privilaged, That total open borders are a good idea, that blacks are being hunted and shot by police (the actual statistics show the exact opposite, but why let reality stop a good narrative), that stopping conservative speakers by rioting is not a violation of free speech, that socialism is a great idea, and that embracing sharia law is somehow feminist.

It is not even close - the right has moved towards the center the left has moved so far left, far left people like bill maher and Oliver Stone are getting attacked for not being far left enough.


I don't know where you got the above, but I fear that you are very badly informed. The perception in the UK is that the GOP has been veering more and more rightward ever since the Rockefeller Republicans fled and the Dixiecrats joined in the 1970's-1980's. Frankly, when compared to the Conservative in the UK, the GOP bears no resemblance even to Reagan's GOP. Hell, Reagan would probably be an Independent if he was alive right now.


Well having lived through both administrations in the US, I think my opinion is a little more informed than yours which is apparently based on what the media has portrayed in England. Look I know he is portrayed as satan there (and here for that matter) - but that is because he is basically anti European Union and globalist policies. That is why all the media despises him, because their funders see him as their enemy.

I would say Trump is much closer to Reagan than the Bushes. Look Trump wants to cover everyone possible with healthcare, he does not want to cut Social Security at all - This is very much a move to the left for the party, and nobody informed will disagree with that. There are two wings to the party right now of almost equal strength the moderates and the conservatives and their differences are what is keeping the new Healthcare bill from being passed. But Trump is definitely more in the moderate camp and this is a change from the Tea party movement which had gained strength the last 8 years or so. The trend for the party is definitely more to the left - and it is being moved there by Trump.

Give me one example of a position the right has moved farther right on recently? The only thing I can think of is immigration - but not really. Conservatives have always been for border security, it's just the politicians really weren't even though they claimed they were. Now with the threat of terrorism, and the loss of jobs, it is just a more urgent need than it used to be.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: sooth

They're essentially arguing over going down with the ship or jumping over board into frigid waters with no plan of rescue.

None of this merits our attention. I'll pay them mind when they actually formulate a pragmatic plan as opposed to just stoking people's fears and emotions in order to solidify their power and control over them.


Good points! In pointing out their Anti-America stance, that will literally kill citizens of this country, I neglected point out that they have no ideas of their own.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:35 PM
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Did Republicans bring U.S. government business to a literal stand-still, as Democrats are going to do?

Were you in a coma for the last few years. The GOP shut the government down so bad people were even wondering if their checks were even going to be sent out.


Did Republican actions lead to people in various parts of this country dying, due to having a life-saving procedure denied them?

They do it everytime they cut Medicare/Medicaid and they do it everytime they pass laws in favor of the insurance companies.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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Obamacare isn't sustainable. It's paid for by hundreds of billions of national debt annually. National debt is nearly 20 trillion. Sure it saves the lives of the poorest who can't afford medicine, but it's going to hurt EVERYONE if it's not replaced with something more free market.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: DanteGaland
I just realized something...

The right-wing has gone so FAR to the RIGHT (look at Reagan's policies)...

ANYONE and EVERYONE who isn't "with them" now looks "radical".

When you shift so HARD to one side, everyone appears to be FAR away and radical...

*rubs chin*


This is not accurate at all.

Trump is closer to a centrist if anything historically. He is not very religious, he is pro LGBT rights, he is mostly anti war. If Sessions goes after marijuana - you may have a case there.

The left on the other hand now believes there are 40 some genders or something, that White skin alone makes people evil and privilaged, That total open borders are a good idea, that blacks are being hunted and shot by police (the actual statistics show the exact opposite, but why let reality stop a good narrative), that stopping conservative speakers by rioting is not a violation of free speech, that socialism is a great idea, and that embracing sharia law is somehow feminist.

It is not even close - the right has moved towards the center the left has moved so far left, far left people like bill maher and Oliver Stone are getting attacked for not being far left enough.


I don't know where you got the above, but I fear that you are very badly informed. The perception in the UK is that the GOP has been veering more and more rightward ever since the Rockefeller Republicans fled and the Dixiecrats joined in the 1970's-1980's. Frankly, when compared to the Conservative in the UK, the GOP bears no resemblance even to Reagan's GOP. Hell, Reagan would probably be an Independent if he was alive right now.


Well having lived through both administrations in the US, I think my opinion is a little more informed than yours which is apparently based on what the media has portrayed in England. Look I know he is portrayed as satan there (and here for that matter) - but that is because he is basically anti European Union and globalist policies. That is why all the media despises him, because their funders see him as their enemy.

I would say Trump is much closer to Reagan than the Bushes. Look Trump wants to cover everyone possible with healthcare, he does not want to cut Social Security at all - This is very much a move to the left for the party, and nobody informed will disagree with that. There are two wings to the party right now of almost equal strength the moderates and the conservatives and their differences are what is keeping the new Healthcare bill from being passed. But Trump is definitely more in the moderate camp and this is a change from the Tea party movement which had gained strength the last 8 years or so. The trend for the party is definitely more to the left - and it is being moved there by Trump.

Give me one example of a position the right has moved farther right on recently? The only thing I can think of is immigration - but not really. Conservatives have always been for border security, it's just the politicians really weren't even though they claimed they were. Now with the threat of terrorism, and the loss of jobs, it is just a more urgent need than it used to be.



Aha - I see the problem. You are discussing Trump being more of a centrist, whilst I am discussing the rightward movement of the GOP as a whole. This is going to be a contentious issue, as there are signs that Trump is bucking against the rest of the GOP, who are either ignoring him or changing things. However, there are also signs that Trump is moving rightwards via his appointments. Sessions so far defies description. I have severe doubts about his position on civil rights and also on marijuana. Perry also defies description, based on his recent comments on Climate Change.
The fact that the Senate is trying to rush through a Healthcare bill in the greatest possible secrecy is worrying. We are talking about possible changes to pre-existing conditions, the slow strangulation of Medicaid... or not - more information is needed.
By the way, I would like to say one thing. The US approach to healthcare is beyond appalling. Yes, the NHS is something of a cash cow, but bloody hell it saves lives and does not leave people buried in mounds of debt. Two weeks ago, through no fault of my one, I got a spider bite (or three) on my elbow, which promptly blew up like a balloon. The moment my wife saw a red line going up the inside of my arm she grabbed the car keys, gave me an ice pack for my arm and drove me to A&E (the UK equivalent of the ER). I was diagnosed with incipient blood poisoning and I got a massive I/v dose of penicillin, a week's worth of tablets and the next day a doctor so young that he shaved with a facecloth stared at my arm and said that gosh, he'd never seen anything like it. I am now fine. And I didn't pay a damn penny.
But I digress. How has the GOP gone rightwards? How can I count the ways? It laughs at climate change. Paul Ryan's approach to healthcare appears to be heartless at best. It worships at the altar of the NRA. It hates stem cell research.
And when it was voting on the 2016 GOP platform for the election it really shifted rightwards - as this says.
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