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originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: introvert
What it all boils down to as far as I can see is you're going to take it in the rear no matter what, unless you make the right friends or find your way into the right group no matter what country or government...If you can't or won't do so...You are shafted.
Incorrect. In theory, free market is the most efficient system. See the gas stations out there? They all have the same price. That's free market at work. Free market guarantees the most fairness, the lowest prices, the greatest supply.
originally posted by: ketsuko
The problem with socialism is two-fold (well more than that, but two main ones):
1. It kills incentive. If you are producing and you know whatever you produce will be taken to be given equal portions no matter how hard you do or don't produce, what's the point of busting your butt to produce a whole lot? You will always pull down the same portion anyhow. And you can watch you less ambitious neighbor produce less and work less and still pull down the same portion as you.
2. It relies on scrupulously honest people in power all throughout the chain or it fails. The perpetual "we just haven't found the right people to run it" syndrome. Human nature being what it is, people will always want more because they are competitive at heart.
originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: dukeofjive696969
Norway is considered a mixed economy, and is transitioning away from the socialist aspects due to high cost of living and the inability to compete.
Sweden's resources is about 90% privately owned, so it's more capitalist than whatever BS you're spouting. I really don't think you understand what socialism is. Sweden actually had to cut back on welfare spending in the '90s due to unsustainability, the Swedish government has been steadily privatizing, shifting away from socialism.
As for Canada, they have a stock market correct? That is indicative of capitalism. Canada also has a lower tax rate for the wealthiest than America does. Canada's healthcare system has been shifting towards private care, a notable landmark was the declaration that denying private healthcare was unconstitutional due to people dying on waiting lists.
Australia is a capitalist country, it has a stock market exchange, and has enjoyed heavy Chinese investments. This year, Australia has been cutting back on social programs.
It seems that every nation you identify as socialist, are actually moving away from socialism. We can all look to them as a lesson, and skip the painful step of finding out how toxic socialism really is.