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Venezuela, Socialism, Bernie, Kittens and Rainbows.

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posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 08:27 AM
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Socialist proponents love to talk about the gap between the rich and the poor. They say capitalism is bad, the root of all problems, socialism is the answer to this. Well lets see how that's working out for Venezuela right now.




Venezuela is in the grip of a major crisis. For the last month, hundreds of thousands of protesters demonstrating against the government of President Nicolas Maduro have been met by riot police almost daily.

At least 37 people have died in the fierce crackdown by security forces, according to the Associated Press, with some 700 wounded. More than 1,800 people have been arrested since early April, according to rights group Penal Forum.





The government has also steadily curtailed democratic freedoms — restricting the free press, imprisoning opponents and preventing them from running for office.

“It is common to find people scavenging for food at garbage dumps and everywhere people are eating off garbage cans,” said the father-of-one who spoke on condition that his last name was not used out of fear of government reprisal. “People are starving. You see misery everywhere.”


Imprisonment for political opponents, eating out of trash cans, death, that's how its going for the average people. Lets check in on the rich.


The country may be stricken by poverty and political violence, but a rich minority acts like they are untouched by the crisis.

In a country where basics such as flour and sugar are in short supply, Buddha Bar guests can order tuna steak, pork ribs or fish tacos – as long as they have dollars to pay.

"You can have as good a time here in Caracas as in New York, Dubai or Saint Petersburg," says one of its owners, Cristhian Estephan.

Eight pieces of salmon and shrimp sushi here cost 55,700 bolivars (RM23,851), or the equivalent of more than a quarter of the country's official monthly minimum wage.


Buddha Bar Caracas


Prepare yourself for this next dose of hypocritical BS.


Behind tightly guarded and fortified walls, posh bars and eateries are full. The Buddha Bar opened in 2015, when the economic crisis was already well underway. One customer, Ahisquel, says she joins in the protests herself but still comes to the bar once a week with her husband, an oil executive. Like most customers interviewed, she declined to give her full name.


That's right, protester by day, rich club goer by night.


Many rich Venezuelans have left the country for Miami, Los Angeles or Madrid since Maduro's predecessor Hugo Chavez launched his socialist "revolution." But some of them like Lorenzo Mendoza – Venezuela's richest man and the owner of Polar, the country's largest food company – are content to stay.

Some are known as "boli-bourgeois," champagne socialists who grew rich from Chavez's "Bolivarian revolution." "We run when we see the boli-bourgeois. We can spot them a mile off," says Carlos, a 49-year-old lawyer, sitting beside the tree-lined swimming pool near the golf course of the Caracas Country Club in the north of the capital.


So this guy sips cocktails by the pool. He got his money during the socialist revolution. He owns the largest food company but somehow sugar and flour are un-affordable? Why doesn't he use some of his socialist ideals and spread that wealth around? Give his food out for free?

Oh no, thats the evil capitalist job. America must come to the rescue with our dirty, rotten capitalist dollars:


A group of Republican and Democratic senators also introduced a bill in early May that would provide $10 million in humanitarian aid to the country, require the State Department to coordinate a regional effort to ease the crisis, and ask American intelligence to report on the involvement of government officials in corruption.


But we like Bernie Sanders ideas, these people didn't do it right you say. Well:



Maybe his $600,000 third home can house some of the poor people he claims to fight for.

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posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 08:53 AM
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Excellent points.
Just like seeing the Antifa protests in CA or anywhere else. It's all fun and games until the idiots protesting can't eat because they destroyed their neighborhood grocery store.

What I never understood is how all the Bernie supporters thought that everything he stood for was free? Ok, who exactly did they think was going to pay for everything? Nothing in this world is "free".





posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: FauxMulder

Hypocrisy at its finest... great thread FauxMulder

Great title to go along with it lol



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:09 AM
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edit on 19-6-2017 by IAMTAT because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:10 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: FauxMulder






Bernie has himself a pretty sweet ride.
Does it have a bumper sticker that say's "My OTHER Car is a Ford Fiesta!"?

I wonder if HE got to choose the color, or Hillary picked it out for him.
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posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:16 AM
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Venezuela slipped into dictatorship long ago.

The term "socialism" is just used for want of a better word to describe "total f'ing mismanagement by a bunch of corrupt imbeciles who have squandered the countries riches for a generation".



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:21 AM
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Venezuala's problems go much deeper than just "socialism".

The biggest problem was it's currency controls and the leadership not wanting to deal in US dollars.

That's what screwed them over.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:22 AM
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Yes using a third world country to bash socialism, now do some research on sweden, norway, canada, australia,heck most top 10 countrys people wish to live in, all have great social programs, and they all do better than...

Murika, # yea.

But that wouldent work with the feeble attempt to paint all socialist programs in bad light.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:25 AM
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Socialism they said, it will be fun they said....
Why is it all socialism always ends up the same freaking way? Then u have those diehard socialists that proclaim that is just not being executed correctly. Lol ...spoke too soon
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posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:28 AM
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originally posted by: MissCoyote
Socialism they said, it will be fun they said....
Why is it all socialism always ends up the same freaking way? Then u have those diehard socialists that proclaim that is just not being executed correctly. Lol ...spoke too soon


Socialism does not always end the same way. The problem is people are uneducated on such matter. So a case like Venezuela is easy picken's for the misinformed.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: MissCoyote
Socialism they said, it will be fun they said....
Why is it all socialism always ends up the same freaking way? Then u have those diehard socialists that proclaim that is just not being executed correctly. Lol ...spoke too soon


Come for a visit in canada, us evil socialist will feed off
Your brains lol.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:33 AM
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Why would you want to give your government enormous amounts of your money just so they can take care of you like they are your gosh darn parents. Sorry but any money i make i like to keep as much of it as possible preferably 90% of my income. I dont need "free" stuff which btw is never free somebody is paying for it. I sure as h3ll dont want the government all in my business...some socialist programs one thing but even some of those are beginning to kick rocks



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969

Actually i have a friends in Newfoundland and no thank you.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: MissCoyote
a reply to: dukeofjive696969

Actually i have a friends in Newfoundland and no thank you.


Lol, ok then, you'll never learned whats socialism is if you only read up on ats and fox news, your loss really not mine.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Yes using a third world country to bash socialism, now do some research on sweden, norway, canada, australia,heck most top 10 countrys people wish to live in, all have great social programs, and they all do better than...

Murika, # yea.

But that wouldent work with the feeble attempt to paint all socialist programs in bad light.



Socialism is not social programs, maybe do a little research before spouting ignorance?

Every country you listed are capitalist.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:45 AM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Yes using a third world country to bash socialism, now do some research on sweden, norway, canada, australia,heck most top 10 countrys people wish to live in, all have great social programs, and they all do better than...

Murika, # yea.

But that wouldent work with the feeble attempt to paint all socialist programs in bad light.



Socialism is not social programs, maybe do a little research before spouting ignorance?

Every country you listed are capitalist.


Says the guy who thinks the nazys where socialist, the top 10 country in the world all have socialist leaning governments and programs, but dont let that stop you from spouting bs.

Murika # yea bud.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:50 AM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969
Oh as if once i see it i'll be all gungho over government.....



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:52 AM
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originally posted by: MissCoyote
a reply to: dukeofjive696969
Oh as if once i see it i'll be all gungho over government.....


Murika is da best am i right lol !



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:56 AM
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It's been my personal experience that the majority of people I meet who are in favor of socialism are those who have no marketable skills and are pissed off when they realize they can't live comfortably off of a service industry job.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: FauxMulder
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looks like free showers/bathing to me... a day at a water-park would cost $45. here

 




Buddha Bar Caracas





Eight pieces of salmon and shrimp sushi here cost 55,700 bolivars (RM23,851), or the equivalent of more than a quarter of the country's official monthly minimum wage.


8 salmon steaks at the local Wal-Mart grocery goes for about $7 each...that's ~$60 plus tax
the side dishes, drinks are not priced in ...So that meal would be about $115.... which compares reasonably to the 25% of a SSI or welfare or unemployment monthly payment here in the USA... ergo Venezualia sure ain't that expensive......
(unless your sentence means the whole Nation's total monthly minimum wages paid to ALL the poor citizens, then your talking Hyper-Inflation !)

 





That's right, protester by day, rich club goer by night.


smart survival tactic it seems to me



 



thanks for the source material for the 'different-Spin'




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