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POLITICS: Poland Reports 12th Case of Mad Cow in Year

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posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 09:58 PM
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In another story that breaks the Mad Cow news barrier, Poland reports its 12th case of the disease in the past year, since January 27 of 2004. The infected cow was part of a 262-head herd, which has been isolated. Poland joined the European Union in May of last year, and the case affects the country's position in EU negotiations. Mad Cow is an important trade issue around the world. Evidence is accumulating that prion diseases are epidemic in humans as well as animals, and governments are under pressure.

 



www.eubusiness.com
A new case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), or mad cow disease, has been detected in Poland, the country's veterinary service said Friday.

"The entire 262-head herd has been isolated. Any cows that were in contact with the infected cow will be slaughtered," he said.

The case is the 22nd since Poland began testing for BSE in 2001...




Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


The new case in Poland highlights recent reports about the extent and nature of Mad Cow and other prion diseases. It is now clear that prions infect not just the brain, but muscle, other organs, blood and blood vessels. The prions use the immune system to travel through the body, and also affect hormones and the secondary nervous systems.

Prions are transmitted by direct cell-cell contact: through ingestion (eating), and contact with contaminated instruments in surgery, blood transfusions, transplants, tissue products and other exchanges of bodily fluids.

The implications to human health are enormous, but people are beginning to wrap their heads around the issue. Foremost in peoples' minds is concern about life planning. Many recognize the possibility of subclinical prion infections, and fear the long-term consequences - high medical bills, early physical or mental disabilities and often, bankruptcy.



Background Information About Prions

Prion Information Primer


Related News Links:
www.gymuser.co.uk
www.chinapost.com.tw

Related AboveTopSecret.com Discussion Threads:
SCI/TECH: "Mad Cow" Spreading in Deer and Elk
SCI/TECH: "Mad Cow" Disease Uses Immune System to Spread in Body
OP/ED: The Final Solution
NEWS: Mad Cow Disease Is Found In Goat

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posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:07 PM
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soficrow, do you think that the government in the US may be hidding cases of mad cow disease here in the US?

Is so many case wide spread in Canada and other countries and it seems kind of strange that the US cases has been sporadic and in control.



posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:20 PM
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Was going to ask if there was anything wrong with poultry or vegetables...

Is there anything I can eat or drink without it potentially killing me?


Although cases in the public are not high (in terms of mad cow) and I hate hearing about problems with food and drinks, i'm glad people are attempting to keep the public aware of what they may be potentially ingesting or have been exposed to.



posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:53 PM
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All the crap Hindus put up with from other religions and creeds about their choice to not eat beef, they've got the last laugh now don't they? So maybe the cow isn't exactly sacred, but eating one will KILL YOU! Hahaha. Suckers. They knew all along, they just chose not to tell you because they think the faces people make when infected are funny.

Seriously though, I've read some things linking prions to memory in humans. If that's true, B.S.E. may just be B.S.. Another in a long line of scare tactics. An erroneous assumption based on flawed scientific integrity of the sort only a money injection can cause in a laboratory. The government gives these little labs money injections, and WHAM, Standards be Gone, Custom Built Bogus Theories While U Wait!

Of course Mad Cow could be the sort of ticking time bomb that has the capability, if it goes off at just the right moment, to change history. All our hard work to subjugate the world might be brought low by spongy brain tissue. Can you imagine the irony, N.W.O. ready to reveal itself, the world is captive and waiting breathless, then BOOM. The Cow Bomb lands and indiscriminately turns a few hundred million people world wide into sponge brained invalids marked for death. By the Cow Bomb I mean of course a huge rash of infections popping up all at once, at the end of the hibernation period for the prions holed up in our fat, consumerist, capitalist pig dog brains.



posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
soficrow, do you think that the government in the US may be hidding cases of mad cow disease here in the US?




...Yes. ...The disease is epidemic in deer and elk, and it probably came from cattle...

The real trick is in how they define a prion disease - prion diseases come in different strains - they mutate when they come in contact with a new species, a different cell, temperature changes, chemicals, you name it. ...So there are hundreds or thousands of prion disease strains, but only 4 or 5 that recognized officially...

All the big epidemics - heart disease, cancer, stroke, obesity, diabetes - are linked to prions... But the strains aren't recognized as prion diseases. So they're not regulated, or cleaned out of our water, blood or anything.


Bush is announcing his budget on Monday - last year he spent something like $6 billion on bio-terrorism research for diseases that don't even exist... While we're sitting on a prion disease epidemic - and Americans are going bankrupt from medical expenses...

Be interesting to see if he bothers to budget any money to deal with the prion epidemics - even funding to enforce EPA regulations would help...


So all our tax money goes to Carlyle and his corporate buddies - while ordinary Americans just get sicker, and re-infected.



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posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by WyrdeOne
Seriously though, I've read some things linking prions to memory in humans. If that's true, B.S.E. may just be B.S..


Negative. And here's why.


B.S.E. is essentially describing a breakdown in brain tissue. If prions are maladjusted (I'm telling you they just needed to be included in reindeer games!:lol
proteins, then these prions represent a portion of the nutrition of each and every neuron.


BTW, if prions do effect all organs, as reported recently by soficrow, then the emphasis on encephalopathy(disease of the brain) could very realistically be attributed to the amount of blood the brain "consumes"(the transportation of protein/prion); i.e. the brain is more exposed to the agent by nature of the circulatory system.

If these prions represent a notable percentage of the nutritional value of any given neuron(again, the emphasis on brain tissue), then the given cell is not performing up to its full capacity*

(optimum cell performance is dictated by the efficiency of its actions; this would include the ability to assimilate "nutrients into energy" for perpetuation of action. A maladjusted protein will not translate into the optimum conversion. Once this occurs, the process is cumulative; dependent on the frequency of prion replication is the length of time for "organism failure." This process is exponential, as the ability to convert protein/prion will ultimately influence the capacity to assimilate oxygen. Once oxygen is effected, forget about it.......cellular activity is in a perpetual catch-up.)

*the capacity of a cell to perform its duties in full capacity(as dictated by DNA and RNA or the chemical/electrical reactions) will effect its "successor", or its replacement. If a cell replicates as it was detrimentally influenced, then the results will be found wanting. This is why(IMO) the spongiform classification. In a non-interrupted replication of malnutriented cells with not being an immune resonse to malnutrition(a diseased protein(prion) translates into extreme malnutrition), cells will degrade quickly(the lack of energy, as dictated by deformed nutrient, translates into subpar generations on an exponential level), thus translating into an "un-reinforced structure", or the "sponge" in spongiform.

If a cell cannot replicate its successor as a 100% copy, then the result is potentially a degradation. This is nothing new; the varience in accumalative reaction to environmental changes and subsequent nutrient assimilation is resultative in old age............and every once in a while this can translate into mutation..............the cellular reaction to environment and the components of energy conversion as introduced by environment is the whole basis of evolution.

Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not so much. In the case of BSE, I am of the opinion that a prion masquerading as a protien will degradate the quality of cellular function,in every way, because it is an effected(not as good) energy consumption.

To finally address the quote at the top of this post, degradation of brain tissue will of course effect memory! A sponge is almost a non-solid, meaning there are holes. BSE is an acronymn stating "Brain degradation in cows." If humans can contract this type of affliction, then most likely the results are similar.



Soficrow.........I've been keeping track of your research; this is how I percieve the problem. Correct me if I'm wrong.

To ask you a question..........I'm concerned about the evolution of the disease. It almost sounds like a natural progression of life based on the nature of cellular replication. The inconsistency of PH in any given persons diet would very likely suggest this type of degradation( though definently not on this level), if not provide an example of how cells are constantly reacting to a varience of factors. I am but an amateur in these matters and am trying to understand...........let me know either way. 'Twould be greatly appreciated. On a side note, thank you for your time and effort on this matter.........it's quite alarming.


MemoryShock



posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by soficrow

Bush is announcing his budget on Monday - last year he spent something like $6 billion on bio-terrorism research for diseases that don't even exist... While we're sitting on a prion disease epidemic - and Americans are going bankrupt from medical expenses...



Don't assume that bio-terror research isn't dealing with prions, becuase that just isn't true. Prion research became part of the bio-waepons game in 2002.

Here is how CDC classifies Prions.

"HAZARDS AND RISKS:
The CDC classifies prions as Risk Group 2 agents requiring Biosafety Level 2 (BSL 2) containment. Prions are unusually resistant to standard means of inactivation, including formaldehyde (including fixing tissues for histological study), ethanol and UV radiation. However, they can be inactivated by fresh household bleach, 1.0M sodium hydroxide (NaOH), 4.0M guanidine reagents, phenol and autoclaving. Procedures involving brain tissue from patients with neurological degenerative disorders (such as CJD and Alzheimer's disease) pose special challenges in reducing potential exposure to prions; such material should be handled with at least the same precautions as HIV+ or HBV+ human tissue. Those working with non-human prion-infected materials must follow the same precautions.





EMPLOYEE EXPOSURES:
· Remember that symptoms of disease will not appear for months or years.

· Any skin contact with possibly infectious materials should be followed by washing with 1N sodium hydroxide for two to three minutes, followed by extensive washing with water.

· If someone is exposed to prion-containing material by splash or skin puncture, or material containing prions is spilled, after ensuring that the exposed person is disinfected, the Principal Investigator (PI) must notify OEH&S. The PI must also submit a written report to the BSO regarding spills and accidents which result in overt exposure to tissues. The report must include the following:

a) Specification of amount released, time involved, and explanation of procedures used to determine the amount involved.

b) Description of the area involved and the extent of employee exposure.

c) Report of medical treatment provided.

d) Corrective action taken to prevent the reoccurrence of the incident.

e) Prion decontamination procedures



RECOMMENDATIONS

It is important that all lab personnel (even those not directly working with the virus) be informed and aware that prion research is being conducted in the lab. If your lab does not have a copy of the Biosafety Manual it is available on the Web.



WORK PRACTICES:
The CDC classifies prions as Risk Group 2 agents requiring Biosafety Level 2 (BSL 2) containment. The UCSF Biosafety Committee (BSC) has determined that work involving human or bovine central nervous system tissues or primary cell lines created locally from these tissues, requires Biosafety Level 2 (BSL-2) practices and procedures plus additional precautions which are detailed below. All researchers working with these agents are required by the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF) to have a valid Biological Use Authorization; Biosafety Committee approval must be granted before any research can be initiated.



LABORATORY PROCEDURES:
· All fixed, non-fixed, or frozen tissues must be contained within watertight containers and labeled with the universal biohazard symbol and the notation "Infectious Materials".



· Signs and labels must be placed to indicate each area where prions are used or stored (including biosafety cabinets, incubators, refrigerators, laboratory entrance doors, etc.)

· All vacuum lines must be fitted with a HEPA filter (an example is the "Vacushield ™" in-line hydrophobic filter, Product # 4402 from Gelman Science).

· No work with prion-infected tissues is permitted on the open bench. A Biosafety Cabinet or other enclosure must be used for all manipulations including (but not limited to):

a. pipetting

b. harvesting infected cells

c. loading and opening containers

d. cutting, sectioning or dissecting tissues

· Centrifugation must be done in closed containers and using sealed rotors.

· All tissues, infectious waste and instruments (e.g., specimen containers, knives, blades, cutting boards, and centrifuge tubes) used in the processing of such samples must be decontaminated as described below.

· Personnel must wear gloves and gowns while handling tissues which are potentially contaminated. All protective clothing must be removed before leaving the laboratory.

· Sonication or homogenization of tissues must be performed in a properly certified Class II biosafety cabinet.

· Microtome blades and knives used for cutting tissue must be cleaned with an instrument that does not put the hand or finger of the operator in or near contact with the blade.



DECONTAMINATION PROCEDURES
· Contaminated liquids are disinfected by making 1.0N sodium hydroxide (NaOH) followed by autoclaving at 132º C for 4.5 hours. Alternatively (if an autoclave that can reach that temperature isn’t available), the 1.0N NaOH-treated liquid can be held at room temperature for 24 hours. Liquids treated in either of these ways can then be poured down the sink.

· Contaminated surfaces that can withstand the treatment are cleaned with 1.0N NaOH, allowing 5 minutes of contact time, followed by wipe down with 1.0N HCl, then thorough washing with clear water.

· Contaminated surfaces that cannot withstand NaOH/HCl treatment are cleaned with 10% household bleach, allowing 10-15 minutes contact time, then washed with clear water.

· Contaminated skin surfaces are washed with 1.0N NaOH or 10% bleach for 2-3 minutes, followed by rinsing with copious amounts of water. Splashes to the eye are rinsed with copious amounts of water or saline.

· Contaminated dry waste is autoclaved at 132º C for 4.5 hours, then discarded as solid waste (trash).

· Sharps waste is autoclaved at 132º C for 4.5 hours before being picked up as medical waste for incineration. Note: Autoclaving sharps is acceptable in this case because of the elevated risks associated with prion exposure.

ibc.llnl.gov...

Prions are now classified as potential bio-war agents. But as I have said in other posts, biowaste treatemnt is wrong. Please not the last two paragraphs above.

Here is another good link about decon and prions......Good stuff sofi....really good stuff..........

www.nursingceu.com...

[edit on 6-2-2005 by DrHoracid]

[edit on 6-2-2005 by DrHoracid]



posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 09:07 AM
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So, a small tissue sample is so carefully handled and so vigorously decontaminated? Does everyone realize the admission of the level of contamination and the repercussions of that admission?

If even one cow with prions goes through a slaughterhouse, everything that comes after is contaminated too?

Who are we kidding? It sounds too late already for most of us. The more information that comes out, the bleaker the future appears. From my perspective, it's almost futile to try to detect and contain it at this point if all the recent info posted is true. The only thing left is to find a cure and we better hurry!


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posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 09:20 AM
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I thought we where on thirteen man I'm must be loosing track.



posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 09:31 AM
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OK, so all these changes that had been happening on our cell level could it be cause by modern times, like the way we handle our food and how is processed.?

Can it blame to fast food and the way we eat?

How about stress and everyday life?

Does it has to do with making everything so processed that we are causing changes without knowing?

Who should be blame for what is going on?

I have read while we eat more and in abundances our diets are lacking the necessary nutrients that our bodies need and then we tried to compensate with over the counter vitamins that most of the time the body does not even absorbed.

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posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Relentless

If even one cow with prions goes through a slaughterhouse, everything that comes after is contaminated too?

It sounds too late already for most of us. The more information that comes out, the bleaker the future appears. The only thing left is to find a cure and we better hurry!





The reason things sound so bleak is because of Bush's 'denial' strategy. Like any 10-year-old, Bush covers it both ways with glib lies, saying "There is no problem," but if there was, "There is no solution."


Pure bull puckey. There is a crisis - and there are solutions.

The real problem is that implementing the solutions will cut into his corporate buddies' profits.

...FYI - there are vaccines, there are preventive treatments, effective filters for water and blood, new solutions that can decontaminate and sterilize water treatment facilities and food processing plants.

BUT - if the crisis is acknowledged, then insurance has to cover diagnosis and preventive treatments. They don't want to - costs too much. Easier to let people get sick, sell them painkillers and other medications - and more profitable. ...They get away with it because few people die quickly - prion diseases kill slowly and it takes a long time - symptoms change from person to person, nobody realizes it's all the same disease...

...if the crisis is acknowledged, then money has to be taken from the military budget and put into clean-up and prevention...

...if the crisis is acknowledged, then international corporations will have to spend $$$ for new decontamination and sterilization technologies - and profits will go down...

Get the picture?



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posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by soficrow
...FYI - there are vaccines, there are preventive treatments, effective filters for water and blood, new solutions that can decontaminate and sterilize water treatment facilities and food processing plants.



Yes, but is there a cure? Anyway to disable the prions once they are in an animal and /or human?

[edit on 2/6/2005 by Relentless]



posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by Relentless

Originally posted by soficrow
...FYI - there are vaccines, there are preventive treatments, effective filters for water and blood, new solutions that can decontaminate and sterilize water treatment facilities and food processing plants.



Yes, but is there a cure? Anyway to disable the prions once they are in an animal and /or human?

[edit on 2/6/2005 by Relentless]



The vaccines are targeted to specific strains, and yes, treat existent disease as well as protect against future infections.

...The expense comes in having to diagnose the specific strain(s)... The direction is 'personalized medicine' - which basically runs a battery of tests then creates an individual treatment tailored to treat each individual's different infections...



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posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 01:33 PM
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Table 1. The Prion Diseases

Disease abbreviation) Natural Host Prion Pathogenic PrP Isoform
Scrapie sheep and goats scrapie prion OvPrPSc
Transmissible mink encephalopathy (TME) mink TME prion MkPrPSc
Chronic wasting disease (CWD) mule deer and elk CWD prion MdePrPSc
Bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) cattle BSE prion BoPrPSc
Feline spongiform encephalopathy (FSE) cats FSE prion FePrPSc
Exotic ungulate encephalopathy (EUE) nyala and greater kudu EUE prion UngPrPSc
Kuru humans kuru prion HuPrPSc
Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) humans CJD prion HuPrPSc
Gerstmann-Sträussler-Scheinker syndrome (GSS) humans GSS prion HuPrPSc
Gatal familial insomnia (FFI) humans FFI prion HuPrPSc



Species-specificity of prions. Unlike many viruses, the properties of prions change dramatically when they are passaged from one species to another. The results of transgenic (Tg) mouse studies indicate that when human prions are passaged into mice, their potential non-Tg pathogenicity for humans probably declines drastically.(6) The prions that are propagated in the non-Tg mice are now mouse prions, not human prions. The mouse prions contain mouse PrPSc, not human PrPSc. This species-specific change in the PrPSc molecule is accompanied by an alteration in the pathogenicity of the prion. In contrast to the human prions, mouse prions are highly pathogenic for mice. Our understanding of these species-specific changes in prion pathogenicity is derived largely from studies of mice expressing a variety of PrP transgenes. Because the PrPSc produced in the mouse is from mouse PrPC, it not possible to determine the origin of the prion initially inoculated into the mouse.(7)

It is noteworthy that the susceptibility of a particular species to prions from another species can be profoundly affected by different prion strains.(8) The properties manifested by prion strains such as incubation times and neuropathology profiles seem to be enciphered in the conformation of PrPSc.

Such considerations of the basic principles of prion biology help to form the basis for the biosafety classification of different prions.

www.cdc.gov...



posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
Table 1. The Prion Diseases


www.cdc.gov...




...That's offical spin, ignores most prion strains and current information.






"Cross-species infection with transmissible spongiform encephalopathy agents may lead to subclinical infection and to adaptation of the infection to new species."
* "Subclinical scrapie infection in a resistant species: persistence, replication, and adaptation of infectivity during four passages." Race R, Meade-White K, Raines A, Raymond GJ, Caughey B, Chesebro B. Laboratory of Persistent Viral Diseases, Rocky Mountain Laboratories, 903 S. Fourth Street, Hamilton, MT 59840, USA. J Infect Dis. 2002 Dec 1;186 Suppl 2:S166-70. PMID: 12424693

"...prions may overcome natural transmissibility barriers between two species of mammals. This may happen if prion proteins from one of these two species have been exposed to abnormal prions from a third species."
* "Researchers Make Major Gain In Understanding How Prions Jump Species" Source: Case Western Reserve University
www.sciencedaily.com...

"Conformational variations in an infectious protein determine prion strain differences." Nature. 2004 Mar 18;428(6980):323-8. Tanaka M, Chien P, Naber N, Cooke R, Weissman JS. Howard Hughes Medical Institute, Department of Cellular and Molecular Pharmacology, University of California-San Francisco, San Francisco, California 94143, USA. PMID: 15029196

"...the (prion strain) biochemical isoform of PrP(Sc) found is influenced by the cell type in which it accumulates."
* "Peripheral Tissue Involvement in Sporadic, Iatrogenic, and Variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease: An Immunohistochemical, Quantitative, and Biochemical Study." Am J Pathol. 2004 Jan;164(1):143-153. Head MW, Ritchie D, Smith N, McLoughlin V, Nailon W, Samad S, Masson S, Bishop M, McCardle L, Ironside JW. National Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease Surveillance Unit and Division of Pathology, School of Molecular and Clinical Medicine, University of Edinburgh, Western General Hospital, Edinburgh, United Kingdom. PMID: 14695328

Also see: "Mad Cow" Disease Uses Immune System to Spread in Body
www.abovetopsecret.com...


Prion researchers say underlying "subclinical" prion infections cause disease well before the infection moves to the brain; there is a progressive, degenerative disease process affecting various body parts and systems.

"Diverse human disorders …arise from misfolding and aggregation of an underlying protein."
"Protein misfolding and disease: the case of prion disorders." Cell Mol Life Sci. 2003 Jan;60(1):133-43. Hetz C, Soto C. Serono Pharmaceutical Research Institute, 14 Chemin des Aulx, 1228 Plan les Ouates, Switzerland. PMID: 12613663

* "Chronic Subclinical Prion Disease Induced by Low-Dose Inoculum" Received September 24, 2001; J Virol. 2002 March; 76 (5): 2510–2517 Alana M. Thackray,1 Michael A. Klein,2 Adriano Aguzzi,3 and Raymond Bujdoso www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov...

"Subclinical prion infection in humans and animals." Br Med Bull. 2003;66:161-70. Hill AF, Collinge J. MRC Prion Unit, Department of Neurodegenerative Disease, Institute of Neurology, London, UK. PMID: 14522857



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posted on Feb, 7 2005 @ 03:01 PM
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Soficrow,

Seems you've done more than your share of homework in prion diseases. I'd like to get your input on possible links (if any) between microbiologists suspicious deaths and this field of research. Here's a thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

Just wondering if there may be links in the deaths and if the research is worth the effort of persuing?

[edit on 7-2-2005 by SourGrapes]



posted on Feb, 7 2005 @ 06:54 PM
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I stumbled across this article. The author 'sums up' mad cow and prion infestations, in a rather sarcastic tone.

Udder Denial

Here is an excerpt on why the british ban on sheep didn't (and won't) work in stopping the progress of the disease in Britain.



THIRTEEN REASONS WHY IT DIDN'T & MAD COW IS IN YOUR FRIDGE TODAY:

1.) MAD COW, SCRAPIE and CJD are mutations of a cannibal disease. A mammal gets it by eating the infected flesh of another mammal, although corneal transplants and pituitary injections also carry it.

2.) US/Brit Sheep were infected simultaneously back in the 70s. In both countries, sheep's dead bodies were turned into protein powder and fed to cows. Britain banned 'death kibble' in '88. It's still 100% legal in USA.

3.) MAD COW causes NO ANTIBODY RESPONSE. When infection enters any body, human or animal, the victim's immune system shows no sign of fighting the infection as it does with bacteria, germs and viruses which means the mammal's immune system can neither detect nor fight it nor can scientists use the antibody-search method to see if someone is sick, as we do with AIDS.

4.) CJD disease takes 10-50 years to eat away the human brain. In COWS, death strikes as early as one year after exposure, as late as 8.

5. ) Mad-cow causes a genetic mutation which is transmissible so if you have it and are starting a family all your children will have it. Sheep and cows pass it to offspring, too and chickens to their eggs. If it weren't transmissable, why for decades had the FDA has demanded that all donors to the blood supply answer the question 'has anyone in your family died of Cruetzfeldt-Jacob?' The disease is l00% inherited and one drop of blood of a descendant of a CJD victims can infect all your descendents down through time.

6.) No scientist can tell if a cow or human is in an incubating phase. Except for brain biopsies, there are no tests, no genetic markers. Prions are not reliably found in urine. You can see prions in brain tissue but you cannot open the skull of a live mammal to scoop them out. If a cow whose milk you are drinking has it, her calf, sent to be a veal chop last Winter, had it when you ate him. An older cow may fall over dead with it, but meanwhile her sick, offspring are long gone to human tables. The long incubation period means the farmer can't see that the animal is ill. The USDA studies the brain of 100 cows per hundred thousand --- a snippet of a sample indeed.

7.) Mad-Cow is killing faster and faster. It was once thought humans could incubate the disease for up to five decades without going into the final, dementia stage but lately Brit teens have been dying of it so it appears Mad-Cow prions evolve the way everything else does. The mutation is toward legs.

8.) The only way for a farmer to find the disease in his herd is via a 500$ autopsy. Farmers prefer selling the corpse to a rendering factory for $l00 profit, a practice still legal in the America at this time of writing.

9.) Mad Cow prions can't be killed the way we fought the plague or fight cholera epidemics, or Ebola, by burning bodies. It is passed on via 'prions', proteins that degrade at 800 fahrenheit, way above the temperature that would reduce them to ash. What is more, burning is a bad idea, as prion molecules go up in the smoke, airborne and fall back on the land. As they were never alive, they do not die. These zombie molecules just wait for the next set of munching teeth. As Britain is considering burning 5 million cows soon, loosing the prions like some ghostly stampede in the sky, the air and water there may soon be contaminated. Cancel your Summer trip. The place will soon be a giant science experiment.

10.) Though Mad-Cow attacks brains, it's thought to be in every part of the cow, his flesh, blood, urine. The contamination cannot be removed by cooking or powdering him. A British Vegan woman caught it simply by dusting her roses with blood meal.

11.) USA has had thousands of 'downer' cows (dying mysteriously) since l981. Dr. Richard Marsh, a virologist on the Veterinary staff at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, stated that he had seen 100 cases of BSE in America, between 1981 and 1989. If the bug entered US beef 15 years ago and has been multiplying ever since, a million cows could be infected.

12.) MAD-COW mortality figures hide behind the skirts of Alzheimer's. Some U.S. doctors know the truth yet haven't blown whistles. Pittsburgh Veterans hospital autopsied 53 sequential Alzheimer's victims. Sampling 1 showed 5.5% had died of Mad-Cow, sampling #2 that 6.3 Percent died of Mad-Cow. Alzheimer's death tolls are doubling and tripling, not characteristic of a genetic disease ergo the shadowy presence of another PROBABLE CAUSE.

13.) No lab in USA will do a Mad-cow autopsy as the prion cannot be burned out, sterilized afterwards so on all our death certificates, officially, we're going to die of you guessed it, ALZHEIMER's and the cows? They're downers. That's all.

Since beef and sheep farmers have been sending 'downer' livestock to rendering factories to be made into 'protein powder' for livestock for the last 26 years, Mad Cow prions could be in every ounce of meat, milk, pork, chicken, egg, cheese, or butter you have eaten since l970 and in every bite you eat today and in gelatin caps, animal glandular supplements and in the glue on the postage stamp you will use to mail a xerox of this article to your Aunt Edna.

Forget Ebola which kills you so fast you can't move ten feet and give it to anyone else and which you can blow out like a birthday candle with a good bonfire. Mad Cow is the most prevalent, virulent disease to hit this planet since the plague. Conceivably it could represent the end of all human life here, vacating the orb for a new, Vegetarian Adam and Eve to bring forth a new, meat-free race, or for Pleidean squatters to turn into Acapulco.




The rest is an excellent read, if interested.



posted on Feb, 7 2005 @ 11:07 PM
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Good links Sour Grapes. Thanks!



I do suspect microbiologists are being killed off - like Wellstone was, and many more - but I can't go there myself. Too busy with other stuff.

Check out a new one - this is blow your socks off... Implicates chemical and drug industries in creating prion diseases...

Mad Cow-type Prions Created in Lab


Also - have you seen my op/ed?


Bush Budget: More Pork, Less Beef

...still under construction - and I'm still writing it, but there's a lot there...


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posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 04:29 PM
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Any chance for a response to my post? I know that I was drunk when I wrote it, but..........



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by MemoryShock

Soficrow.........I've been keeping track of your research; this is how I percieve the problem. Correct me if I'm wrong.

To ask you a question..........I'm concerned about the evolution of the disease. It almost sounds like a natural progression of life based on the nature of cellular replication. The inconsistency of PH in any given persons diet would very likely suggest this type of degradation( though definently not on this level), if not provide an example of how cells are constantly reacting to a varience of factors. I am but an amateur in these matters and am trying to understand...........let me know either way. 'Twould be greatly appreciated. On a side note, thank you for your time and effort on this matter.........it's quite alarming.


MemoryShock



First - my apologies! ...I overlooked this.

Prions are misfolded proteins that can make other proteins of a similar shape morph into prions on contact - they don't really replicate like other cells or organisms. ...Every cell is made of proteins - so what happens is that the prions eventually take over the cell - which is how and why the cell mutates.

Numerous factors can influence the rate of prion takeovers - and their ability to morph into new shapes - including diet. But bottom line: looks like the prion takeover can only be slowed down with a 'good' diet, not stopped.


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