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How would one prove Tarot Card Readings have validity?

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posted on Jan, 19 2020 @ 11:41 AM
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My ex first wife of 30 plus years ago started teaching my son tarot and astral projection, of which I warned him not to get involved with in any manner because it would open him up to negative influences, (which can still find you anyways, but on steroids using these types of things).

And then my son called me a year later and told me he halted all of that because he began seeing evil spirits and running into them while astral traveling and it traumatized him for a long time.

He learned what it means to actually see and know a lot of things the majority just laugh off as nut material. It's like playing chicken or Russian roulette. You might win or luck out all the time, until you don't.


The proof is only in either testimony or in first hand discovery.
edit on 19-1-2020 by NoCorruptionAllowed because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 19 2020 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: InTheLight
The trix, is to not gneneralize.


Agreed. With a little training most people can do a cold reading and be relatively accurate. It's the specific and unique details that separate the two approaches. Either way, though, the important thing is what the other person does with the information, whether it's from a Tarot reading, a cold psychic reading, or formal psychiatric treatment. Formal therapy has the aura of greater validity, but it's all kind of the same thing. Trying to get a feeling for how a person is interacting with their reality, and determining what they might expect if the situation continues along those lines.



posted on Jan, 19 2020 @ 11:58 AM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm
Funny I've never seen Tarot in a casino. Hmm

It's called the minor arcana and it's at every card table. Strange cards with numbers and odd symbols. Casinos are themselves places of divination, where people hope to have the fates smile on them. Most times they don't. Which is a very accurate reflection of reality.



posted on Jan, 19 2020 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: InTheLight
The trix, is to not gneneralize.


Agreed. With a little training most people can do a cold reading and be relatively accurate. It's the specific and unique details that separate the two approaches. Either way, though, the important thing is what the other person does with the information, whether it's from a Tarot reading, a cold psychic reading, or formal psychiatric treatment. Formal therapy has the aura of greater validity, but it's all kind of the same thing. Trying to get a feeling for how a person is interacting with their reality, and determining what they might expect if the situation continues along those lines.


Although, when I read for my friends and family I am connected in a way that can't be explained...and it always gets a shocked look from the readees. Or, rather, they tell me it's accurate.

My reality with my friends and family are in-line.



posted on Jan, 20 2020 @ 07:57 PM
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Amazing earth is hollow we are ruled by lizards a Pice of Painted Cardboard can tell your future lolol .
What out though you may call up something scary Like a paper cut .lol
Intelligent ? Humans ? who you kidding the real reason aliens haven't landed is because they just cant stop laughing long enough to do it .



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 11:37 AM
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What's critical to understand is that the future is nonexistent; merely a conceptual abstraction that only the human being is capable of considering as it greets each instant of Now. That instant of Now is the whole of material reality [the physical realm of energy, mass, matter and material structure] and while this part of physical reality is the only part that modern western science acknowledges to be actual, it's still only part of what's physically actual.

As you read this post, the part of you that is consciously considering its content is not the assembly of material structures [your eyes, visual cortex, and the variety of brain regions - at least 30 regions involved in processing visual stimuli according to most responsible research assessments] even if these structures are necessary contributors to the process as a whole. No responsible research has discovered the material "humunculus" responsible for the executive functionality necessary for transforming simple visual processing into intelligent, conscious perception, and that's not a controversial assertion.

There is something that physically exists in direct and ongoing relationship with the brain that enables the miracle of perception emergence and there's no means to observe it scientifically. This is also not a controversial assertion. Yes, some theorists insist that this capacity is more of an event than an actual agency, but the obvious stability, consistency and capacity for increasing developmental sophistication of this capacity flatly rejects that specific description of the cognitive process; especially when it comes to those more advanced expressions, like actively pondering the intellectual abstraction that is future event prediction.

As far as employing the Tarot as a divination tool, nothing can actually predict the future, since it doesn't exist, That said, what you can do with the Tarot is create an effective means of dynamic communication between your brain and the mind that exists in entangled relationship with your brain. It's a complicated relationship, but it's capable of amazing feats of raw calculation; savantism being the best example of this stunning capacity. Between the mind and the brain, all kinds of calculations are possible, and this includes event trajectory calculations.

So, what's an event trajectory calculation?

The most common example of event trajectory calculation is a baseball outfielder calculating the spatial trajectory of a fly ball [a spatial trajectory is an event trajectory, by the way - spatial change being no more than a version of the foundational change-event that the material realm is based on] and successfully placing his glove at the specific proximity point at the specific instant that the ball occupies that specific proximity point. It takes practice, but it's not something that the mind [as the executive management function] and the brain [as the "hands-on" dynamic facilitating function] is incapable of performing as the team that they are. In essence, the process of Tarot is similar in the examination and determination of a trajectory of change-events, even if the mechanical process is obviously different.

The mind and its brain compatriot are very capable of examining the progressing trends of ongoing change involving the most consequential relationships, circumstances and situational environments that a person is ensconced within on a daily basis, and while most people are consciously oblivious of the more obscure developments that surround them, the brain's capacity for recording those otherwise invisible indications is often spectacular. What the Tarot spread can reveal - if performed by a reader who has the necessary level of process maturity - is the brain's incredible capacity for extensive data collection; especially obscure data.

The Tarot cards provide the language that the reader's mind uses to communicate with that reader's corporeal conscious awareness/perception process, and while the reader [and certainly not the cards themselves] isn't capable of discerning the most plausible trajectory progression going forward within the querient's own personal/professional life, the reader's mind is fully capable of direct communication with the querient's own mind, which is engaged in its own relationship with the querient's brain. That information processing cabal - if properly queried - can give its own assessment to the reader's mind, and that assessment is then presented to the reader's brain via the hand/mind coordination process manipulating the order of the cards during a properly conducted shuffle process, with the cards best to communicate what the reader's mind has learned shuffling into position for the spread in the same way that a deeply learned and experienced musician can unconsciously produce highly complex musical passages in a manner much too rapidly for that musician's deliberate intent to be capable of executing.

Basically, the Tarot is just a means of communication between the reader's mind and brain, and is only capable of revealing pertinent trends and potentials that exist at the moment of the reading itself. Most progressing events continue in logical progression and change drastically only when a collision of influence alters that event progression. That said, there are those unexpected collisions in every life. No Tarot reader can predict such a collision or the net impact on the querient's future when such a collision occurs.

Any reader that claims otherwise is either naive or irresponsible. The only true validity is in revealing present trends.



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: InTheLight
Although, when I read for my friends and family I am connected in a way that can't be explained...and it always gets a shocked look from the readees. Or, rather, they tell me it's accurate.

My reality with my friends and family are in-line.

It's always nice when everything is "resonant," I guess is the word.



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 11:47 AM
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A good tarot reader taps into the intuitive fields. A good subject to have their tarot read is very easily convinced. It is silly though to hold the tarot as a dogmatic magical truth because the same ability to tap into the intuitive fields and convince yourself of a profound belief system is latent within all of us. No cards needed. The cards are a ritualistic tool meant to facilitate that effect..



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 11:55 AM
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originally posted by: cooperton
The cards are a ritualistic tool meant to facilitate that effect..

They provide a way of focusing and structuring a lot of random thoughts a person might have in their heads to address a specific problem or perception. It's true that a person can do something similar with meditation (and sometimes medication), but the Tarot is particularly useful because it helps add a splash of chaos to the mix, so that you don't get caught trying to force an answer down a logical and reasonable path when there's a pretty big random element involved in anyone's thoughts or actions that lead to the "future."



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: Blue Shift

They provide a way of focusing and structuring a lot of random thoughts a person might have in their heads to address a specific problem or perception. It's true that a person can do something similar with meditation (and sometimes medication), but the Tarot is particularly useful because it helps add a splash of chaos to the mix, so that you don't get caught trying to force an answer down a logical and reasonable path when there's a pretty big random element involved in anyone's thoughts or actions that lead to the "future."


I feel that. Also sometimes if there's too many options it can be overwhelming. Given the confines of a subject or card would help narrow down options.



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: TzarChasm
Funny I've never seen Tarot in a casino. Hmm

It's called the minor arcana and it's at every card table. Strange cards with numbers and odd symbols. Casinos are themselves places of divination, where people hope to have the fates smile on them. Most times they don't. Which is a very accurate reflection of reality.


Nope. Just regular playing cards, no major or minor arcana to be found. The casinos you have visited sound fun.



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: TzarChasm
Funny I've never seen Tarot in a casino. Hmm

It's called the minor arcana and it's at every card table. Strange cards with numbers and odd symbols. Casinos are themselves places of divination, where people hope to have the fates smile on them. Most times they don't. Which is a very accurate reflection of reality.


Nope. Just regular playing cards, no major or minor arcana to be found. The casinos you have visited sound fun.

Cups = Hearts, Wands = Clubs, Swords = Spades, Pentacles = Diamonds. The only things missing from a standard 52 card deck that the minor arcana has are the Page cards. But we still get the Fool = Joker. Chinese invention. They were and still are big on divination, and you see a lot of Chinese folks in the casinos.

Tarot Cards vs. Regular Playing Cards



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