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What makes white racism inherently a part of conservatism?

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posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 05:18 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Conservative liberal are BS terms anyway.
Most people are conservative on some issues and liberal on others.
On economic issues I would be classified as liberal on many social issues I would be called conservative: like on crime, abortion, morality.
Don’t like Hillary, Obama or Trump
On foreign issues I’m with Rand Paul, so where or what am I?
As for civil rights, I’d be called liberal

Now you want to know why some people think conservativism is associated with being anti-minority

Well it’s based on their opposition to social programs that help poor non-white people. The irony is these programs also help poor white people

Also often they go opposite of right thinking conservatives such as Ron and Rand Paul on foreign issues because of their too nationalistic approach and some racialist beliefs





That's because their real opposition is to the poor...




posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Grambler


And yet you assume to know my race.

So you're not white?


What does it matter?

You make assumptions about my race based on comments.

You claim to be some enlightend person who is above racism, but you make judgements about race based on these comments.

If I was japanese, would my comments still make me seem like I was defending my race and am likely a racist?

How about black?

Your claims of "enlightenment" are laughable and similar to your bold claims on the terrorism thread, where you claimed to be intelectually superior to everyone while lecturing us that the real way to stop rerroism is to become so unfazed by it like your family member that you watch someone get blown up right in front of you and you just go about your day.

You are truly an enlightened thinker for the ages!



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 10:20 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox


Present conservatism is based on nothing more than

"I shouldn't have to pay for that"

You raise an interesting question.

Is everyone who calls themselves conservative truly conservative in their outlook?

Lots of folk call themselves Christians. Other Christians, though, may disagree with them, pointing out specific beliefs or practices that do not accord with the general view of Christianity. Meanwhile non-Christians may decide that anyone who says 'I'm a Christian' must be one, no matter what they do or believe, because there is really no final authority on the question and people have, after all, the right to call themselves anything they want.

There are many self-described conservatives whose governing political philosophy is selfishness. People who don't think they should be paying any taxes, or that governments should tolerate their crimes and misdeeds because of 'tradition' or a 'Constitutional right', and who invoke those same words to justify the institutionalized oppression of others.

Should we call these people conservatives because that's what they call themselves? If we do, the word 'conservative' will become meaningless -- just as the word 'Christianity' now means everything from the Congregatio Mariae Reginae Immaculatae to the Branch Davidian.

Or we can stick with the definition accepted by political scientists and lexicographers, and keep our heads and our arguments clear.

Look at some of the people on this thread, Joshua. To call them conservatives is a little like calling David Koresh a Christian. Let's not dignify these racists, hatemongers and predators on society by giving them a name that suggests their views are acceptable, or even rational. Edmund Burke -- not to mention Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher -- would rise from their graves in outrage to hear this mob calling themselves conservatives.



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: Grambler


You make assumptions about my race based on comments.

Really? Go back through my posts and show me where I said or implied that you were white.


If I was japanese, would my comments still make me seem like I was defending my race and am likely a racist? How about black?

You have made no racist comments on this thread as far as I can see. Neither did I accuse you of making any.

However, your umbrage at my comments about the racism of historically white-dominated cultures makes it fairly easy to guess where your loyalties lie. Vide my earlier, repeated comments about people who take egregious offence to comments about their race from others.

And yes, it matters.


edit on 18/6/17 by Astyanax because: 😕



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 10:40 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Conservatives long for a past that never was, and liberals dream about how to make the future more equitable.

There was a thread the other day about some politico saying he wanted America to return to the days of Leave it to Beaver and Andy Griffith. It was like he was saying old sitcoms -- works of fiction -- were documentaries.

Regarding white supremacy, there is no place for the idea in the democratic party. On the other hand, republicans often wink at white supremacists and happily accept their votes and money, at least until someone notices.

On the media side, conservative news aggregator Matt Drudge makes it a point to document nearly all black crime, but doesn't have the same zeal for pointing out white crime. People can draw their own conclusions as to why he does this.

I could go on and on, but typing on a tablet is a pain.

edit on 18-6-2017 by icanteven because: typo



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 10:47 PM
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a reply to: Astyanax

You implied because I took umbrage at your focus on "white culture" that




To repeat what I said earlier: those who imagine an insult to their race where none was intended are generally racists.


You are implying I am white because I made comments about your claims of white culture I am racist.

You then asked me flat out if I was not white, proving that you assumed I was.

You are welcome to your opinions, and I honestly think you are very intelligent and make some worthwhile arguments, but I find your air of superiority to be laughable, that somehow you are such a special person that has overcome all racism and therefore have the right to cast judgement.

But at least its good for a chuckle, so please go on enlightening us lowly peasants on how to be a morally superior person.



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 10:48 PM
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a reply to: icanteven

I didn't ask for anecdotes, theories and conjecture.

I'm asking for actual policies, real life stuff.

As far as accepting loot from White Supremacists, with liberal institutions of every variety openly funneling billions of dollars into the SJW Supremacist groups; all this manufactured civil war stuff.
Is there anything even one percent of that kind of activity and finance going on with the "conservatives" / Republicans?
That might be the Big Question of the thread; new focus thread worthy...

I dont read Drudge to know or judge. It seems you'd be able to dig up some kind of analysis if there was something to it. You might even find him addressing what you're getting at if you dig with deliberation.



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: Grambler


You then asked me flat out if I was not white, proving that you assumed I was.

It proves nothing of the kind. I knew you would think that, though -- in fact, I added the 'then' at the start out of my sentence to make sure you would.

I love yanking the chains of the ungodly.



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Grambler


You then asked me flat out if I was not white, proving that you assumed I was.

It proves nothing of the kind. I knew you would think that, though -- in fact, I added the 'then' at the start out of my sentence to make sure you would.

I love yanking the chains of the ungodly.


Where did you even use the word "then" in any comment to me?

You said


So you're not white?


Oh No!!

Did the enlightened master here to educate us all lie about what he typed?

Hahaha!

Please, keep educating us ungodly folk!



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 11:26 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Ah. Sorry. 'So', not 'then'.

Same effect.

As we see from your response.



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 11:32 PM
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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Grambler

Ah. Sorry. 'So', not 'then'.

Same effect.

As we see from your response.


But you are such an enlightened godly person!

Is it even possible for you to make a mistake?

Your arrogance is astounding.

But I will not derail any further. Please go on calling anyone with a different opinion as you a racist and ungodly.



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Your avatar gives it away, you are white....
That is you is it not?



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 11:41 PM
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Why does it have to be "white" OP? Are you a "racist"?



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 11:41 PM
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originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Grambler

Your avatar gives it away, you are white....
That is you is it not?


Haha!

No that is comedian Bill hicks.



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 11:48 PM
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the only difference between a racist liberal and a racist conservative is how obvious one is compared the other.



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 11:54 PM
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There is no such thing as a racially motivated political party among the 2 main parties today.

There are historical influences of racially motivated groups working from within both parties.

While everyone has been getting all worked up about race, the rest of the world has been moving along.

Modern race watchers are the racists.

I see the influence they have on youth in the ghetto.

These kids are now acting racist because they feel its a racist world out to get them and they should respond in kind.

Saw it today, had a young lady go off about my race very aggressively. If it were the social opposite, it would have been hate speach.

Typical stuff. Cops are only hard on blacks, white people are the rich ones who enslaved blacks. Racist government and racist country out to hurt them...and so on. Also allot about threats of beating a white person until jail time is merited. Violence...

But what do we know. We are only just living in ground zero where these policies and engineered trends of the globalist mass media and the state collide.
edit on 6 18 2017 by tadaman because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: c2oden

That's true and having prejudice against a group is not the same as disliking them for there place of origin or how they look.



posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 01:18 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Grambler

Your avatar gives it away, you are white....
That is you is it not?


Haha!

No that is comedian Bill hicks.


Who the CIA gave plastic SURGERY to ...

And turned INTO Alex Jones!!!



posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: DanteGaland

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Grambler

Your avatar gives it away, you are white....
That is you is it not?


Haha!

No that is comedian Bill hicks.


Who the CIA gave plastic SURGERY to ...

And turned INTO Alex Jones!!!


Hicks was at least twice the man that Jones is.

Well not based on weight I guess, but you get what I am saying



posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 02:20 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

A thousand times the man and sadly only half as influential..



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