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What makes white racism inherently a part of conservatism?

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posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 03:29 PM
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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: ketsuko

I should have said 'white cultures', since there were (and are) a plurality of them.

Racism was common, I think, to them all. Racism is the default setting for all cultures, regardless of race.


All right, then so everyone is racist now, including you. So how does that give you some kind of moral high horse to lecture about it?

By your own definition, you are racist too, and that would, of course, make you a hypocrite.

After all, if you have any culture at all, you are a racist.




posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 04:05 PM
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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: ketsuko

I should have said 'white cultures', since there were (and are) a plurality of them.

Racism was common, I think, to them all. Racism is the default setting for all cultures, regardless of race.


Why single out only white cultures as racist?

Can you show me any "colors" culture that hasn't been racist?



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 04:28 PM
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You know white racism is inherently part of conservatism, when the KKK continually supports your positions. If you express your positions, and the Left says, "whoa that's racist" and people of many colors and ethnicities protest, but the KKK hears your ideas and after each one says "f### yeah!" -- that's a hint.



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 04:28 PM
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Catch a tan stop being problematic.



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Simple answer? The imagination of the Left. It's BS that "white voters" were somehow catered to in the 80's. That's when I started voting, as it happens, and there was nothing remotely racist in any of the political ads I saw, or any of the discussion, from Republican candidates. Nothing. The only thing I ever saw or heard that was racist was fro the left, just as today, with pushes for things like Affirmative Action, ads for the NAACP, etc. As for the KKK, they pushed people to vote against Republicans.



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell

Well it’s based on their opposition to social programs that help poor non-white people. The irony is these programs also help poor white people

Also often they go opposite of right thinking conservatives such as Ron and Rand Paul on foreign issues because of their too nationalistic approach and some racialist beliefs


Hmm. .. it's almost like race may not play any issue at all in our opposition to tax payers funded handouts, isn't it?



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 05:01 PM
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How are you defining conservatism?



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell

Well it’s based on their opposition to social programs that help poor non-white people. The irony is these programs also help poor white people


You are correct the largest number of poor in America are whites, so the old hurt the minorities is pretty weak. The problem is that liberals dangle carrots in front of the poor that offers free living, but that can never materializes since it is basically impossible without full on 80% taxing the working class. Liberals know this, but hey they can just blame the conservatives anyways. win, win for them.

Now on the right they preach more jobs, get people off of welfare type programs and that isn't so pleasing for many. We have a good amount of people that would live that crappy but free life and the Dems know it, that is their main voter base.

At some point someone got to work to pay for everyone not working...



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 05:03 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
You know white racism is inherently part of conservatism, when the KKK continually supports your positions. If you express your positions, and the Left says, "whoa that's racist" and people of many colors and ethnicities protest, but the KKK hears your ideas and after each one says "f### yeah!" -- that's a hint.


You know black racsism is left wing when they support all of the left wings positions


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posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 05:07 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

That's a logical fallacy. The left chastising versus the Klan cheering on... Stop and think about human nature for a moment If you have two groups, neither which you're fond of or even respect in any way, and one group chastises you while the other agrees with you, are you REALLY going to change your position to spite the cheerers while appeasing the chastisers, or are you going to carry about your business with both middle fingers in the air?



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

David Duke for Prez 2024



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: chortled

Nah, he's too fiscally liberal.



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: DanDanDat

Except every white racist is conservative..and at least this election energetic vocal conservatives..
*snip*


You really need a reality check.


Here’s what the former president of the United States had to say when he eulogized his mentor, an Arkansas senator: "We come to celebrate and give thanks for the remarkable life of J. William Fulbright, a life that changed our country and our world forever and for the better. . . . In the work he did, the words he spoke and the life he lived, Bill Fulbright stood against the 20th century’s most destructive forces and fought to advance its brightest hopes."
So spoke President William J. Clinton in 1995 of a man was among the 99 Democrats in Congress to sign the “Southern Manifesto” in 1956. (Two Republicans also signed it.) The Southern Manifesto declared the signatories’ opposition to the Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education and their commitment to segregation forever. Fulbright was also among those who filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That filibuster continued for 83 days. Speaking of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, let’s review (since they don’t teach this in schools): The percentage of House Democrats who supported the legislation? 61 percent. House Republicans? 80 percent. In the Senate, 69 percent of Democrats voted yes, compared with 82 percent of Republicans. (Barry Goldwater, a supporter of the NAACP, voted no because he thought it was unconstitutional.) When he was running for president in 2000, Vice President Al Gore told the NAACP that his father, Senator Al Gore Sr., had lost his Senate seat because he voted for the Civil Rights Act. Uplifting story — except it’s false. Gore Sr. voted against the Civil Rights Act. He lost in 1970 in a race that focused on prayer in public schools, the Vietnam War, and the Supreme Court.

Whitewashing the Democratic Party’s History Read more at: www.nationalreview.com...
Much more information at the link. Read it. Learn it.

Want to talk about income now, under Democrats, as opposed to Republicans? We can do that, too.


In light of data available through the Census Bureau, the Democrat party’s insistence that they care is shown to be a hollow statement. African-American adults living at or below the poverty level grew from 19.8 percent back in 2007, to 23 percent by the end of 2010. It is even worse for African-American children; their numbers in poverty rose from 34.5 in 2007, to a dismal and disappointing 39.1 percent by 2010.

The median income of African-American households under President Bush – while Bush enjoyed Republican majorities in the House and Senate – during 2005, was $12,124. Sadly, by 2009 – after only three years of Democrat party majorities in both houses and Obama’s first year in office – that number plummeted 53 percent to $5,677 according to the Pew Research Center. One might be forced to wonder what, exactly, the Democrat party truly cares for.

Democrat Party Still Racist After All These Years
Again, much more information at the link.

How about a little list of racist comments from Democrats?


“You’re not a member of the Taliban, are you?” — Chuck Hagel, Secretary of Defense


“I love this quote. It’s from Mahatma Gandhi. He ran a gas station down in St. Louis for a couple of years. Mr. Gandhi, do you still go to the gas station? A lot of wisdom comes out of that gas station” — Hillary Clinton, Former Secretary of State


“In about 18 months from now, hopefully [state Sen. Vincent Sheheen] will have sent Nikki Haley back to wherever the hell she came from and this country can move forward.” — Former South Carolina Democratic Party Chairman Dick Harpootlian


“You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking!” — Joe Biden, Vice President


“I mean you’ve got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and nice-looking guy.” — Joe Biden, Vice President


“[Harry Reid] was wowed by Obama’s oratorical gifts and believed the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as a Obama — a ‘light-skinned’ African American with ‘no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.'” — Harry Reid, Senate Majority Leader, as quoted in the book Game Change

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More at another source -

6 – Who can forget when Al Sharpton reminded us how white people lived in caves and greek people were all gay: “White folks was in the caves while we [blacks] was building empires … We built pyramids before Donald Trump ever knew what architecture was … we taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.”



7 – That time President Obama caught his grandmother being a “typical white person,” whatever that means… “The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know, you know, there’s a reaction that’s been bred in our experiences that don’t go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that’s just the nature of race in our society.”



8. Not to leave out old ‘Slick Willie,’ here’s a great quote about Obama from former President Bill Clinton, “A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee,” Source: NY Daily News

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Need more?


1) "(Obama’s) a nice person, he’s very articulate this is what’s been used against him, but he couldn’t sell watermelons if it, you gave him the state troopers to flag down the traffic." -- Dan Rather


3) "‘Hymies.’ ‘Hymietown.’" -- Jesse Jackson’s description of New York City while on the 1984 presidential campaign trail.


7) "I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia [Sen. Robert C. Byrd, a former Ku Klux Klan recruiter] that he would have been a great senator at any moment. . . . He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this nation." -- Former Democratic Senator Christopher Dodd (D.,Conn.)


8) “Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them.” -- Mary Frances Berry, former Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights


9) "Tainting the tea party movement with the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. There is no evidence that tea party adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other Americans. But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks and having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in November. Having one’s opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness." -- Mary Frances Berry, former Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights

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posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Not done yet, either.


11) "Let me see one of you adopt one of those ugly black babies." -- Abortionist Ashutosh Ron Virmani


12) “There’s no great, white bigot; there’s just about 200 million little white bigots out there.” -- USA Today columnist Julienne Malveaux


13) "Them Jews aren’t going to let (Obama) talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he’ll talk to me in five years when he’s a lame duck, or in eight years when he’s out of office. …They will not let him talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is.” -- Jeremiah Wright


14) "There’s white racist DNA running through the synapses of his or her brain tissue. They will kill their own kind, defend the enemies of their kind or anyone who is perceived to be the enemy of the milky white way of life." -- Jeremiah Wright


15) "The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him. I will fight to see that vicious beast go down into the lake of fire prepared for him from the beginning, that he never rise again to give any innocent black man, woman or child the hell that he has delighted in pouring on us for 400 years.” -- Louis Farrakhan


16) “White people shouldn’t be allowed to vote. It’s for the good of the country and for those who’re bitter for a reason and armed because they’re scared.” -- Left-wing journalist Jonathan Valania


17) "(Joseph Lowery) said that when he was a young militant, he used to say all white folks were going to hell. ...'Then he mellowed and just said most of them were. Now, he said, he is back to where he was.’" -- The Daily Mail quotes Joseph Lowery, who gave the benediction at President Obama’s inauguration


21) "I give interracial couples a look. Daggers. They get uncomfortable when they see me on the street." -- Spike Lee


22) “I want to go up to the closest white person and say: ‘You can’t understand this, it’s a black thing’ and then slap him, just for my mental health.” — New York City Councilman, Charles Barron


23) "We got to do something about these Asians coming in and opening up businesses and dirty shops. They ought to go." -- Marion Barry


25) “That’s just how white folks will do you. It wasn’t merely the cruelty involved; I was learning that black people could be mean and then some. It was a particular brand of arrogance, an obtuseness in otherwise sane people that brought forth our bitter laughter. It was as if whites didn’t know that they were being cruel in the first place. Or at least thought you deserving of their scorn.” -- Barack Obama

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Now, for some more real history for you -


In reference to their own party, Dems will likely say they led the fight for civil rights throughout the years, though a cursory review of the party will prove this assertion wrong. For instance, this was the party that established the Ku Klux Klan as its enforcement arm. Powerful Democrat politicians have appointed klansmen to high-ranking positions in American government for a century, yet have somehow convinced the vast majority of blacks that Republicans are the bad guys!

The KKK was used to intimidate voters, black and white, into voting Democrat – or not voting at all.

Through violence, property damage, rape, and murder, Democrats were able to secure a huge majority of the black vote comprised of those afraid to cast an alternate ballot. Disgustingly, they have somehow been able to maintain that death-grip on the African-American community to this day.

When these reprehensible strategies, though unquestionably effective, did not satiate their need to keep the black population down, Democrat-supported legislation such as Jim Crow laws made sure these minorities would remain second-class citizens even after the ratification of the 13th Amendment. There are plenty of examples of heralded Democrats, including Presidents LBJ and Truman, expressing disdain for blacks in their own words.

Democrats’ History of Racism
More, of course, at the link.

Consider yourself corrected. Deny ignorance.


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posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: chortled

Do you ever get tired of getting banned and creating new accounts.

Eh, I guess whatever gives you jollies.



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 05:50 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko



Probably the fact that traditional white culture in Europe and America has always been racist.


Look, see the inherent CRT in the system?

Btw, what is "white" culture? As far as I know, I am not allowed to have it. America is not anyone's culture and to try to say it is, is racist. And yet, every time we talk about why we have Black History Month, we are told every other day is "our" day, but if we claim it as "our" day, then we are racist for doing so because all the other races also live here?

It seems to me we have no culture that we can claim until it is convenient to speak of it, but since I have not been raised with it or raised allowed to claim any of it, then I think it's a myth used to attempt to make me feel guilty for being who and what I am.




Much applause! This bears repeating.



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 11:46 PM
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Quite a bit of content with substance ended up in here 'today', good to see!!!



originally posted by: Lysergic
Catch a tan stop being problematic.


I rub everyone wrong in between being outside sweating and getting a tan.

I have serious chi going on here.

The balance in the force, am I.




originally posted by: spiritualzombie
You know white racism is inherently part of conservatism, when the KKK continually supports your positions. If you express your positions, and the Left says, "whoa that's racist" and people of many colors and ethnicities protest, but the KKK hears your ideas and after each one says "f### yeah!" -- that's a hint.


I begged that question in my OP. You might reread it for that part and actually try to tackle your assertion there the way I presented it.


edit on 17-6-2017 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 04:13 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


by your definition, which "race" out there isn't "racist".

Correct.


now apply this to your logic of political parties and inherent racism.

Conservatism isn't about political parties. Conservatism is a personal attitude. Just like liberalism.

You haven't read Burke or Mill, clearly. You don't realize that in America today there is no conservative party. Your Republican Party is economically libertarian and socially reactionary. Neither of these positions has anything to do with conservativism. Your Democratic Party is in fact a social-democrat party with a Socialist left wing. Neither social democracy nor Socialism are liberalism either. The Democrats have a liberal social policy, but that's about it.

Better go back to rolling in the mud, friend. This political-science stuff takes a bit more than, perhaps, most Americans can muster in these absurd times.



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