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What makes white racism inherently a part of conservatism?

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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 10:44 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

It's the legacy of the North South split in the civil war. Some ignorant and some intellectual Southerners see the Confederate flag as a brand of their heritage... Failing to notice it's been culturally appropriated by the KKK.

The former strong support for Dems in the South only changed in the past forty years. That means there was at least a hundred years of resentment towards Republicans after the Civil War. My mother was raised in New Orleans in the 50's, and she says so, and I believe her.

Southern ways have become a style. Let's face it- the South might have lost, but they've always had more dignity than Yankees. Country music, with it's Texas or Alabama drawl, is iconic of so-called normal folks all over the country now. I know guys from Seattle, born and raised, who have an accent mysteriously similar to the one in Northern Louisiana. Yes, it's cultural appropriation, but Southerners are good natured and just mock fake rednecks behind their backs.

Here's the illusion: The South = American. That's fine, until you remember the civil Rights movement. Tradition, including racism, lives long in the South, but it's faux Southerners in Oregon and North Dakota that get all nuts about it. Southerners, barring drunks and meth heads and politicians, have the sense and manners to keep their racism quiet. Not that that makes it excusable.
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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 10:49 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Dude I can quote myself in this forum and et al from like 10 years ago preaching that the parties dont inherently represent; that its all BS.

THis stuff is core at my whole deal, forever now, although this past year things had grown to be so off the charts I had to break from my old model of:
"I dont care to criticize or try to convince you not be a conservative or a liberal, I only care to break your mind free from party loyalty to the Republican and Democrat Party's. Just because they pay lip service to, they masquerade around as one or the other doesn't mean they are those things or care about YOU and your such values. Typically, despite your perceptions, they simply do not."

Note that this was my deal back in the day when the Republican's were about thru riding out Bush's 8 years and how insane they too get after such a stint.

Back then they all labelled me a liberal everyday, where now you label me a conservative everyday for being the same old dude only now my sights are on helping correct post-8 year term liberal insanity (which by the way has taken the lunacy to immensely unprecedented levels otherwise I wouldn't be touching all this social issues BS and would just be covering Technological Totalitarianism & American Imperialism 90% of the time).

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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: Look2theSacredHeart
Southerners, barring drunks and meth heads and politicians, have the sense and manners to keep their racism quiet. Not that that makes it excusable.


As long as people treat others how they wish to themselves be treated (assuming its founded on decency) then who cares who people dont like?

This is what I dont get, this idea that since the SJW's presume most the whites dont 'care for' others then that means they're evil monsters (even if there's no outward signs and everyone holds the door for each other). And they've been exploiting their own rationale (based on unfounded stereotyping) to then turn around and treat everyday random people like shia'ite.

And this whole topic I'm churned up here, goes straight to the core of their whole logic to be uncivil.

Which is obscene as the whole logic has been that since there was a "Southern Strategy" to target white Southerners by the Republican Party (at some point), then all conservatives are southern rednecks while they like to group everyone they dont like or that doesnt like them into the southern redneck conservative category.

And it, this whole argument I'm seeing crap up and derail topics around here about daily. Whole threads launched with it this hardcore fallacious logic wielded as a demagoguery baton, as the underlying subtext, even pretext rationale in too many threads.

Which means it's going to get on nerves and I'll be coming for ya no matter who you are and what your deal is...



posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss



where now you label me a conservative


I've done no such thing.



for being the same old dude only now my sights are on helping correct post-8 year term liberal insanity (which by the way has taken the lunacy to immensely unprecedented levels otherwise I wouldn't be touching all this social issues BS and would just be covering Technological Totalitarianism & American Imperialism 90% of the time).


You're just the edge of the very same coin. The only difference you have is that you provide us with convoluted weirdness with this SJW nonsense that is a manifestation of a obsession with theatrics, not facts.



posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 11:10 PM
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a reply to: introvert

If "SJW" is just some thing I made up then why do you come running in whenever I make a thread mentioning them,opposed to you rarely touch my threads if they dont? Note that this one had it in the first paragraph and here you come. I did one calling out the 'proper' "Alt-Right" the other night, and another one calling Obama a 'classical' fascist and you were nowhere in site.

Here, SJW's:
College Diversity Council Admits To Posting Fake Racist Flyers On Campus

Students Take Control of Evergreen State College WA Demanding 'No White Day'- Threaten Violence

Even After AZ Backlash, UCLA Will Hire 'Social Justice Advocates,' Too (Reeducation Camp Style)

Peer-Reviewed Journal Publishes Gender Studies Story Claiming Penises Cause Climate Change

Trump sign causes a snowflake Melt-down

Professor: “Some White People May Have to Die” to Solve Racism

UC Berkeley Award Winner Suggests Celebrating Cinco De Mayo By Beating The S*** Out Of White People

Seattle Mayor Adds Diet Drinks to His Soda Tax ‘To Tackle White Privilege’

Google Redefines The Word ‘Fascism’ To Smear Conservatives, Protect Liberal Rioters

Yet Again, Another Hate Crime Turns Out To Be A Hoax

Biracial UT pageant winner slammed as 'not black enough' on Twitter

"All women could be asked to wear headscarves" - Austrian president

Students Claim Objective ‘Truth’ Is a ‘White Supremacist’ Myth

How to Avoid Cultural Appropriation at Coachella

University of Wisconsin-Madison offers free tampons in men’s bathrooms

Antifa SJW Educates Man On Why His White Bloodline Is Evil

The SOCIALIST Justice Warriors

Islam in government: 9yo girls ready for sex, women must marry rapists

PETA Says Milk is a ‘Symbol of White Supremacy’

Now if you could cut the absurd intellectual dishonesty on this "SJW's dont exist" BS I could have a lot more respect or you.



posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 11:10 PM
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a reply to: c2oden

There's no racism there, plenty of prejudice, but no racism.



posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 11:14 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Well, I think the whole thing is people get worked up because they know the system is stacked against them. They blame libs, southern gracious racists, whoever, as they try to figure out who's responsible.

It's the corporations who bought the media and our government who we should blame. Trump supporters would hate me for saying anything against capitalism, and libs would hate them for saying anything Trumpy, even if they're gung ho supporters of the corporations I blame. They Want us to be distracted hating each other so they don't have to deal with us. Divide and conquer.
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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 11:55 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Why would I care if you respect me or not?

You're a propagandist in your own right and push the same garbage nonsense you claim to be against.

We've been over this many times before.

You're a SJW right along with the others.
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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Get it straight: I'm a Counter-Propagandist of the Anti-Ideologist variety. And I'm intellectually honest.

Dont act like I'm just like you. Never do that unless you're goal is to be maximally wrong.



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 12:01 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Yes it is. Money goes into a pool which covers everyone in said pool, that is how socialism works on a fundamental level.


Yes I hear their health care is wonderful in that socialists paradise in Venezuela.



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 12:04 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss



Get it straight: I'm a Counter-Propagandist of the Anti-Ideologist variety. And I'm intellectually honest.


Yet you push a propaganda-based, SJW narrative. Which is based on your own ego, which you freely admitted, as well.

I guess that is honest.



Dont act like I'm just like you. Never do that unless you're goal is to be maximally wrong.


You've proven my point.

Much thanks.
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posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 12:11 AM
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originally posted by: nemonimity
a reply to: c2oden

There's no racism there, plenty of prejudice, but no racism.


This is what is wrong.
Call it what you want, but it is what it is and words will not change it



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 12:14 AM
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originally posted by: c2oden

originally posted by: nemonimity
a reply to: c2oden

There's no racism there, plenty of prejudice, but no racism.


This is what is wrong.
Call it what you want, but it is what it is and words will not change it


It's feels over reals.



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 12:25 AM
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a reply to: introvert



Whatever. More intellectual dishonesty. We all have egos, and so many of us have big ones. Where SJW's just masturbate all day in some bizarre obsession that theirs is warranted as all that and a bag of chips, I work round the clock in endless ways like few others could fathom in all sorts of exotic little achievements / accomplishments to live up to my ego. I'm the real thing. If you knew me in real life you'd never dare say otherwise, even not factoring in anything to do with any of this stuff you know me for. Not to mention I own up to my ego. Since its based on truth and not pure delusion that comes naturally to me; whereas todays new snowflake generation they would more naturally CRINGE at such self reflections.

So you're twisting my words of comparing potatoes and mango's, acting like its apples and apples.

I missed responding to your 'i dont care about' respect line up there:
That's one of the things that bothers me the most about SJW's, this thing where most adversaries can at least establish a mutual respect which is part of the whole game, SJW's dont seem capable of such and its just loathing and downward spiral conflict with the bulk of the.

Quit being a stereotype.





posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 12:45 AM
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Whatever. More intellectual dishonesty. We all have egos, and so many of us have big ones. Where SJW's just masturbate all day in some bizarre obsession that theirs is warranted as all that and a bag of chips


Agreed. That's what you are doing.



I work round the clock in endless ways like few others could fathom in all sorts of exotic little achievements


Exotic SJW masturbation? Forgive me if I lack the desire to fathom your achievements.



I'm the real thing. If you knew me in real life you'd never dare say otherwise, even not factoring in anything to do with any of this stuff you know me for. Not to mention I own up to my ego. Since its based on truth and not pure delusion that comes naturally to me; whereas todays new snowflake generation they would more naturally CRINGE at such self reflections.


It appears you are nuts and egotistical. I have no doubt pure delusion comes natural to you.



So you're twisting my words of comparing potatoes and mango's, acting like its apples and apples.


Forgive me if I let you speak for yourself.



I missed responding to your 'i dont care about' respect line up there: That's one of the things that bothers me the most about SJW's, this thing where most adversaries can at least establish a mutual respect which is part of the whole game, SJW's dont seem capable of such and its just loathing and downward spiral conflict with the bulk of the.


You're #ing nuts.



Quit being a stereotype.


Quit being a nutbag.



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 12:50 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Been seeing this general noise for a while now. It goes hand in hand with SJW rhetoric for example. It seems to feed into their mentality that since they're against whites whom are racist against minorities that they themselves CANT be racist (like that whole line that 'blacks cant be racist'), although this isn't about that.

More and more I've been seeing in recent weeks (generally as a deflection in response to liberal violence & terrorism) cases of individuals with a history anti-minority racism and violent tendencies being propped up as like the ultimate proof that conservatives are violent racists.

What I don't get is where it is in the 'conservative manifesto' this whole notion is cemented as reality?

Note that I'm not even a conservative, I just call out fallacies and lunacy as I make note of them.

I have seen some of this data that the GOP back in like the 80's had a tendency to try to appeal to white voters. I'm pretty sure the one quote even mentioned something about acknowledging how the Democrat's were overtly targeting minorities for their voter base, and so the Republican's leaned more towards whites. But as far as my recollection whatever this manifested as it was a more subtle effect.

Who can even name what the 'face' of such an initiative even was?

Is merely appealing to one group or another really the stuff of the makings of a race war?

This whole inquiry brings up many other question such as:
How wasn't the Democrat's deliberately appealing to minorities also not racism?

Although more in the spirit of of this would be:
What policies have conservatives pushed & passed that hurt minorities and / or helped whites?

That's should be the big one, as it goes without saying the liberals have been for decades following this whole Critical Race Theory doctrine to the point of the "PC" dogma that has manifested from it. It's gone so far off the rails this decade that there's has been "open season on whites" on the streets with everyday liberals raging across the Internet in defense of the perp's out committing mob violence hate crimes and mass murder of whites & conservatives.

The logic seems to go that since the likes of the KKK tend to vote Republican that somehow it is a "part" of conservatism. Perhaps there is something to this I just havent gathered yet? Or could it be that since the anti-white racists (which includes actual whites) have made it a part of liberalism that its inherent in their minds that 'of course anti-minority racism is conservatism'. That wouldn't be a shock, afterall, as both liberals and conservatives are typically binary mentality types who prefer to lump all opposition into one nice neat 'other team' description, while in the case of the liberals no matter how ruthlessly racist they are in their minds as long as its anti-white racism then it doesn't actually count as "racism" no matter how vicious the resulting hate crimes that flow from their logic may be.

These are just my observations and the resulting questions from being tuned out of all things left / right politics and social media until one year ago, and then observing & debating everyone here in ATS on these matters.

What to make of all that that remains unseen, you tell me!


The answer to your question is fairly obvious.

Although all conservatives aren't racist... all openly racist individuals are conservative.

The MLK and the neo-nazis.. white supremacists... white nationalists.. they all support the right.

It's actually my biggest beef with Republicans. They don't do enough to separate themselves from the alt-right.

Also... the image (true or not) in my head and the heads of many other liberals when thinking about what a conservative is.. is a rich, old, white guy whos mentality hasn't changed from the 50s.

Unfortunately... for republicans.. it's their job to shed that image. Just as it's our job as liberals to shed our freeloading communist safe space needing snowflake image.



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 12:53 AM
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I'm starting to like introvert's posts.



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 12:57 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
I have no doubt pure delusion comes natural to you.


Too funny. The number one terrorist sympathizer (of whom happen to be SJW scope terrorists) in all of ATS whom routinely gets triggered by and enters my threads that include the 'word' "SJW" (whom I typically portray in a negative fashion), with an all too often bitter disposition, where a typical part of that routine involves denying that SJW's exist, and then turns around and tells me that I'm delusional and I'm the actual SJW for being honest with myself while holding the nuts of fanatically fallacious / deluded nutters to the fire as my 'job' in these parts.

Good times!


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posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 01:03 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: introvert
I have no doubt pure delusion comes natural to you.


Too funny. The number one terrorist sympathizer (of whom happen to be SJW scope terrorists) in all of ATS whom routinely gets triggered by and enters my threads that include the 'word' "SJW" (whom I typically portrayed in a negative fashion), with an all too often bitter disposition, where a typical part of that routine involves denying that SJW's exist, and then turns around and tells me that I'm delusional and I'm the actual SJW.




The number one terrorist sympathizer



Dude. You're nuts.

Get a #ing grip.

You've gone full retard in a multitude of ways.
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posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 01:08 AM
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originally posted by: c2oden
I'm starting to like introvert's posts.


In my thread trying to pick apart and disarm this item of mass division & demagogue derailment, introvert managed to derail the thing into the realms of personalized ad hominem bickering, so after you scoffed that the thread is "loaded" in a way that struck me as the thing impressed upon you more division (which would be the opposite of my whole intention with it), you're now patting one of the sites top SJW subversion critters on the back for it.

Good times!


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