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What makes white racism inherently a part of conservatism?

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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Oh no it was a purposeful demonization through speeches, policy and even people involved later admitting it..

Now I doubt seriously it was for racist reason on the parts of the arcitects. Most likely a pragmatic "hey all these ex dems are pissed about civil rights.. if we go anti civil rights too, we get all their votes and are back in the game?!?!"

I don't think any of the gerrymandering or weird ways they try to restrict voting of minorities is because anyone is racist..

I think it is purely political strategy..

80%+ of "X" voting block are voting for the opposition, so let's making it harder for them to vote is a net win for us.


If whites voted mainly dem I think they do the same thing in reverse.


From there it's a vicious circle..




posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 09:17 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

If you're going to focus on stuff from 50 60 years ago we could just as easily be talking about the Democrat Party.

Here I'm inquiring about conservatism, which yes that means "Republican" policies.

WHAT policies?

And how about in the last 30ish years?

Otherwise I never again want to hear any of you ever again say it's alright that Hillary's mentor was Robert Byrd.
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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Okay now you're making sense.

This gerrymandering BS has been the brunt of what I have been able to gather aside from back in the era when the Democrat Party was every bit as guilty as being anti-Civil Rights as anyone else could have been, which has seemed like its THAT (gerrymandering the past 40 years) which the liberals these days seem to constantly keep harping on as if its some kind of ultimate proof that conservatism being white supremacy in action.

That it, until I see real racist stuff as part of the Republican Party platform, for instance, then I call bullocks on all this 'racism is conservatism' type BS just because se the KKK happens to vote them which came with gerrymandering.

And therefore it drives me nuts seeing this kind of brutal fallacy being harped about daily in pursuits of political supremacist demagoguery.
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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 09:25 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

There was a time when conservatism was opposed to liberalism, and it was used as an excuse to segregate and discriminate on racial grounds. But nowadays conservatism is liberalism.



posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 09:28 PM
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I think the official Democrat opinion if there was such a thing, is that all white people are racist. I backed this up with some sources in an earlier post.

However, these days, conservatives do seem to be a bit more racist than liberals.

I can back this up with personal experience - I lived in a conservative part of Idaho and a black family moved into the all-white subdivision. They had some kids, and the white families wouldn't let their children play with them.

Of course, conservatives are also against programs such as affirmative action. They are less willing to accept that there are social structures that benefit white people over blacks.
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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 09:31 PM
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I am not going to read the responses to this loaded question.

Racism has nothing to do with party affiliation or the color of your skin.

Maybe racists should be qualified by an acronym to include all racists and make sure all racists are represented so certain racists do not feel left out.



posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 09:32 PM
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Here I'm inquiring about conservatism, which yes that means "Republican" policies.


No. Conservatism does not mean Republican.

Conservatives are more aligned with Libertarians and Republicans only like to call themselves conservatives.
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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 09:35 PM
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originally posted by: c2oden
I am not going to read the responses to this loaded question.

Racism has nothing to do with party affiliation or the color of your skin.

Maybe racists should be qualified by an acronym to include all racists and make sure all racists are represented so certain racists do not feel left out.




Excellent point.

It is a loaded question/OP.



posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I think it all stems from many white Americans thinking this is somehow just their country. America has always been a multicultural continent. The failure to recognize that can create a picture that can look racist to outside viewers.

Personally I don't think it's racist as much as uneducated. Yeah there are a bunch of racists here too, I know a bunch even if I live in the SF Bay Area. But more than anything else, frankly Americans are idiots, even the smart ones. our Schools suck, people are taught halftruths and targeted subject matter and end up growing up, with very limited views of their surroundings. It leads to insular world views and skewed historic perceptions.


It's no less accurate to generalize that conservatives tend to be uneducated and racist then to generalize that liberals tend to be unrealistic and whiners IMO.. They are both large parts of each side.



posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Yeah i get that.

But its about daily I see threads around here getting demagogued with this BS I'm calling out with this thread, I'm finally annoyed enough with to get around to put it to the test.

And dont act like you've never seen this. I'd be shocked if you've never asserted it. Truly. Shocked.



posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 09:48 PM
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originally posted by: nemonimity
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I think it all stems from many white Americans thinking this is somehow just their country. America has always been a multicultural continent. The failure to recognize that can create a picture that can look racist to outside viewers.

Personally I don't think it's racist as much as uneducated. Yeah there are a bunch of racists here too, I know a bunch even if I live in the SF Bay Area. But more than anything else, frankly Americans are idiots, even the smart ones. our Schools suck, people are taught halftruths and targeted subject matter and end up growing up, with very limited views of their surroundings. It leads to insular world views and skewed historic perceptions.


It's no less accurate to generalize that conservatives tend to be uneducated and racist then to generalize that liberals tend to be unrealistic and whiners IMO.. They are both large parts of each side.



You just went all racist.
You can't qualify your racism.

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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 09:56 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

I'm opposed to them because I'm forced to pay for them even when it's pretty obvious they don't do what we're told they're supposed to - namely help people get out of poverty. Instead, they seem to enable people in poverty to stay there and produce more people who proceed to also live in poverty.

To me, a working program is one that is temporary because it helps people learn to make do for themselves.



posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 10:01 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope



Taxes have been around long before socialism.


I don't see how that is possible seeing as how taxes are a form of socialism.
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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 10:02 PM
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wrong thread
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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 10:06 PM
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I am seeing a lot of this "Southern Strategy" claptrap as an excuse used to tar and feather all conservatives as synonymous with racists.

But here's the thing - the Democrat Party has been moving steadily leftward in its positions. Just this last cycle, Hillary Clinton lost a lot of former Obama voters in the Rust Belt. Is this a new spate of sudden racism cropping up among Rust Belt voters that they suddenly become Republicans, or are you all just going to claim in the future that the Republicans employed a "misogyny strategy" there to stop her and now Republicans are both racist and hate women?

Or ... could it maybe be that you have just simply moved the party line so far to the left that you left those voters behind. They were not willing to move as far as you wanted to go, so you simply purged them and they had nowhere else to turn?
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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 10:18 PM
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I'm made a mistake, and put this in the wrong thread, my apologies. I've erased it.





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posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 10:20 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss



Yeah i get that.


Apparently not, as you tie the two together. Republican policies are rarely indicative of conservative ideals. If anything, you show the disconnect the Republicans have with true conservatism.



But its about daily I see threads around here getting demagogued with this BS I'm calling out with this thread, I'm finally annoyed enough with to get around to put it to the test.


I also see threads daily that are full of BS about violent Leftist, SJW, terrorists which employ the same ignorant generalizations. In fact, you author many of them.

Selective outrage?

Perhaps dishonesty?

How annoying.



And dont act like you've never seen this. I'd be shocked if you've never asserted it. Truly. Shocked.


Of course I've seen it. It's wrong.

You do it as well.

That's wrong.



posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 10:24 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Because by definition CONSERVATIVES want to conserve the past.. well America has a very, very white supremacist past..

So by definition almost all of your American white supremacist will be conservatives.

That said the reverse doesn't seem to hold true..

Black panthers didnt support Hillary, but every kkk member supported trump..




Well that is a load of BS, ain't it?

Conservative is more like not being a drunken sailor with our money, than it is for preserving white supremacy.

Oh, then who did the black panthers support? Bernie?




posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 10:27 PM
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originally posted by: onthedownlow

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: onthedownlow
a reply to: Willtell

What does liberal on civil rights mean? Does it mean that some people should be more equal than others?


No, it means that the government should in some instances and the society as well, should understand the historical realities of racism towards the minority population, and be aware of its pernicious impact on the people whose rights were denied for decades, including woman, who btw couldn’t even vote until the early 20th century.

Look after the historical inequalities in our system and through the system address these matters.

Historical examples

Housing discrimination,

employment discrimination

Educational discrimination

Deliberate segregation

Police brutality


Mmm, reperations? How would you apply those so that the equally affected received equal compensation?



I say give everyone tree fitty.




posted on Jun, 16 2017 @ 10:42 PM
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