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One of the men who was responsible for acquiring the videos through FOIA request, John Farmer, is a member here.
originally posted by: silo13
a reply to: secretagent77
Molton steel, not bull crap... Only thing the two have in common is they both run downhill.
originally posted by: MrBig2430
originally posted by: waypastvne
a reply to: ZaneDog
No this is a different John Farmer. Private citizen, did a lot of work on the FOIA for the videos and radar data for the 911 Pentagon attack.
One more thing. John says that there WAS a video from the navy annex, but the FBI lost it.
originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: silo13
Thank you for the informing video.
I agree with the narratives "opinions" and he does asked very good questions.
He is correct, fires and jet fuel would not be enough to weaken the entire WTC structure to cause the collapse, something else was in the WTC that shouldn't have been there.
The question is what was it, and how did it get in all three WTC?
The video narratives proves beyond doubt, that all the other high-rises that caught fire, and some burnt the entire high-rise are still standing today, how is it the two WTC, one fell, after only burning for an hour?
No one needs to be an Engineer, or an Architect to see something is wrong with the government OS of the WTC.
Fact is NIST had a preconceived notion that there was no explosives used, yet NIST admits to "never" testing for any explosive residue or evidence of demolition, how ironic is that?
7. Based on my work to date, including computer modeling performed by me and my staff at the University of Edinburgh, it is my opinion that a diesel fuel fire occurred on September 11, 2001 on the fifth floor of WTC7 in the area of the transfer trusses. Such fires. fueled by between 7,350 and 9,300 gallons of diesel fuel from a leak in the Salomon Brothers' Standby Generator System, would have been of such high temperatures and lasted for such duration that they would have compromised the strength of the transfer trusses, caused their failure, and ultimately caused the failures of Columns 79 and/or 80 leading to a global collapse of WTC7.
8. Specifically, a diesel fuel fire in the fifth floor mechanical room would heat: (1) the members of Truss 2 that are fully immersed in the mechanical room, including Columns 77, 80, and the eastern diagonal of Truss 2; and (2) the members of Truss 1 immersed in the north wall of the mechanical room, though to a somewhat lesser degree.
9. The diesel fuel fire would have generated sufficiently high structural temperatures in the members at Truss 2 to cause them to lose strength and fail.
JOSE L. TORERO
NCSTAR 1-A Final Report on WTC 7
The worst-case scenarios associated with fires being fed by the ruptured fuel lines, (b) would have produced large amounts of visible smoke that would have emanated from the exhaust louvers. No such smoke discharge was observed. p. 49 [pdf p. 91]
Simulation of hypothetical, worst-case fire scenarios on these floors showed that pool fires, associated with ruptured diesel fuel lines, (c) would have exhausted smoke from the exhaust louvers, which was not observed. p. 51-52 [pdf p. 93-94]