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Bernie the hypocrite; blamed right wing rhetoric in Gifford shooting

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posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 10:46 AM
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Oh Bernie Bernie Bernie.

At one point I liked this guy. Even though I hated his policies, he seemed like a genuine guy. And the you start to look closer, and it turns out he is just another politician that will be a hypocrite when it suits him.

Like how he complains about how the rich don't pay there fair share, but he is incredibly wealthy, and actually paid less taxes that Trump and most other politicians.

But this thread has to do with his response to the tragedy that led to Rep. Scalise being shot by a Bernie campaign worker.

Here was Bernie's statement.


"I have just been informed that the alleged shooter at the Republican baseball practice is someone who apparently volunteered on my presidential campaign," Sanders said. "I am sickened by this despicable act."

He continued:

"Let me be as clear as I can be. Violence of any kind is unacceptable in our society and I condemn this action in the strongest possible terms. Real change can only come about through nonviolent action, and anything else runs against our most deeply held American values."

"My hopes and prayers are that Representative Scalise, congressional staff and the Capitol Police Officers who were wounded make a quick and full recovery. I also want to thank the Capitol Police for their heroic actions to prevent further harm."


www.businessinsider.com...

Sounds reasonable. This is a man that wouldn't seek to politicize a tragedy. This is what a real poltician should look like.

Oh wait, whats that? Bernie had a totally different response when Rep. Gifford was shot?


“This horrendous act of violence is not some kind of strange aberration for this area where, it appears, threats and acts of violence are part of the political climate,” Sanders said in his letter. “Nobody can honestly express surprise that such a tragedy finally occurred.”

The Vermont senator, who caucuses with Democrats, cited past Arizona incidents such as vandalism at Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ district office after the health care reform vote and Sarah Palin’s “crosshairs” map, as well as other outbreaks of violence like when a bullet was shot into Rep. Raul Grijalva’s office.

"In light of all of this violence – both actual and threatened – is Arizona a state in which people who are not Republicans are able to participate freely and fully in the democratic process?” asks Sanders. “Have right-wing reactionaries, through threats and acts of violence, intimidated people with different points of view from expressing their political positions?”

“My colleague, Senator John McCain, issued a very strong statement after the shooting in which he condemned the perpetrator of the attack. I commend him for that. But I believe Senator McCain and other Arizona Republicans need to do more,” Sanders said. “As the elder statesman of Arizona politics McCain needs to stand up and denounce the increasingly violent rhetoric coming from the right-wing and exert his influence to create a civil political environment in his state.”


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So when its seen as a right wing person shooting, Bernie feels that the rhetoric from the right is to blame. But when its his supporter, mums the word.

Oh, and these comments about the Gifford shooting, they were from a FUNDRAISING letter sent. Yep, this classy guy was raising money off of this tragedy. How progressive!

In fact look on how he call McCain out for not doing enough for condemning this act, because he has not spoken out about the rhetoric. So did Bernie take the opportunity to call out left wing rhetoric for being too extreme? Nope, he couldn't be bothered.

Yet Bernie has been calling for his supporters to resist Trump, and using hyperbolic language about Trump just recently. How about this article?



Sanders to faithful: Take down Trump, take over Democratic Party

Bernie Sanders' permanent "political revolution" rolled into Chicago on Saturday night, as the Vermont senator called on progressive activists gathered here to beat back President Donald Trump's agenda while remaking the Democratic Party.
Speaking to a crowd of buzzing supporters in former President Barack Obama's adopted hometown, Sanders ripped Trump's "incredible hypocrisy" and called the President a demagogue who makes "even a very conservative president like George W. Bush" appealing in comparison.



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This is just one example. And has Bernie spoke up about all of the violent rhetoric before this directed at Trump? Not that I have heard.

Did Bernie condemn his supporter Reality Winner that leaked info to make Trump look bad? Not that I saw.

Remember when Bernie supporters were beating people at Trump rallies. The media lauded them and blamed Trump. But then as soon as his supporters protested the DNC, all of the sudden the media thought they were too violent.

Here is a thread that I did on it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I know that almost all politicians are hypocrites. But people somehow think that Bernie is different.

In fact, he is worst than most, not only because of such blatant hypocrisy, but because he has convinced people he is not a typical politician, and he is above politicizing events such as this.


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posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Jared Loughner, there was a time when he was member in ATS.......

As for his political views:


Ultimately, the network determined, “It seems illegitimate to tie Loughner to the mainstream right or mainstream left, as his beliefs were well within the realm of the fringe. Indeed, Loughner appears to have simply been a disturbed individual who lacked a coherent political philosophy other than a deep-seated anti-government sentiment.”


heavy.com... -palin/
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posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 10:53 AM
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To be fair, Bernie is an idiot.

-Chris



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:02 AM
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Seems like Bernie has been in the crosshairs a lot this week, could you guys finally be moving on from Clinton? God I hope so, at least with Bernie there's some kind of defense for him seeing as how he has been one of the most consistently anti-establishment politicians for decades now.

Maybe Bernie actually is just another stooge for those in power and in all honesty I don't care because his message makes sense.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:05 AM
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I blame this on MSM twisting headlines and the first few paragraphs of their articles to make things more firing up to the public. In the rest of the article they state things that show that their initial article is just an opinion and may or may not be applicable, but people form their opinions in the first few paragraphs, that is well known. Not many people actually read the whole article and once they have formed an opinion, everything they read later on reinforces their beliefs. We have been brainwashed by magicians, people who twist reality to show it is something other than it is.

I do not agree with all of what Republicans do, I do not agree with all of what Democrats do either. But I do not agree with most of what MSM is doing politically right now. Our government needs to take action to keep our society civil.

I would have never dreamed of saying what I just said in the last sentences, but I feel our society has gone extremely astray. Especially the news agencies. We are destroying our society, Russia and ISIS are not as effective as the press at doing that.

These congressional investigations should not be public when our society is so messed up right now. They should run another investigation through our intelligence agencies to see who really is behind causing all this chaos, it has to be someone or some group who has lots of influence with the elite and Democrats and I feel it is coming out of Europe.


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posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:08 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Seems like Bernie has been in the crosshairs a lot this week, could you guys finally be moving on from Clinton? God I hope so, at least with Bernie there's some kind of defense for him seeing as how he has been one of the most consistently anti-establishment politicians for decades now.

Maybe Bernie actually is just another stooge for those in power and in all honesty I don't care because his message makes sense.


Yeah, having one of your campaign workers shoot up a bunch of political opponents and then be proven a hypocrite about your reaction to it will put you in the spotlight.

And aren't you the one who is always going on about how both sides are the same? Yet you think the Bernie, Mr. Hillary supporter is somehow outside of that?

For shame.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1



Maybe Bernie actually is just another stooge for those in power and in all honesty I don't care because his message makes sense.

Really??

So despite someones actions, as long as they say the right things to you, you are all in?

Basically, as long as someone reaches a little extra to give you a tickle, you don't mind what they are doing behind you.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: Grambler



And aren't you the one who is always going on about how both sides are the same? Yet you think the Bernie, Mr. Hillary supporter is somehow outside of that?


He doesn't care about any of that, Bernie says what he wants to hear. Feelings matter.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:14 AM
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Apparently view points change depending on the political party of the victims.
Can't say I'm surprised.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

I don't trust republican or democrat leaders, at all.

I still trust them more than socialist ones



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: Grambler
Bernie is a slimy weasel who is only looking out for himself. He proved that when he # all over his supporters and rolled over for Hillary when asked. In the beginning although I did not support him I respected him, that changed once I realized he was just like the rest.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: Martin75

Same here, I was interested and payed attention to Bernie, until the Dem convention.

Now his voice sounds to much like Hillary's when I hear it.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Oh you mean the guy that got his campaign stolen from him only to go campaign for his thief the very next day?

What a man of great character and a great message indeed.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: Martin75

Bernie is losing some of his support. I recently started following on twitter one of the lawyers involved in the DNC fraud case. Here is a recent tweet from her.




twitter.com...

If you don't want to go on twitter, it says:



Bernie telling progressives that's it's their turn at the trough, basically. No longer railing against corruption. It's hopeless. It's over.


Followed by a link to an article with a short video of Bernie. Bernie is beginning to lose his shine to those that are actually listening to what he is saying now and comparing it to what he was saying during the primaries.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

This how politicians are, flip flopping as they seem fit.

But then again Bernie is planning to run again in 2020 as independent so he can not side with the crazies now, is not good for his political image.




posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:49 AM
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Interesting and sad, it should be obvious both side are pretty much the same..I would like to think Bernie tried to fight the good fight. As far as the blame game goes ..either both l and r share it or none at all..weak minds are easily led/broken, to do the unthinkable..I don't think it's by design. But ya..everyone needs to ramp it down a bit.
As for taxes paid..hard to pay less than 0 for 20yrs..but I'm not tax expert.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Seems like Bernie has been in the crosshairs a lot this week, could you guys finally be moving on from Clinton? God I hope so, at least with Bernie there's some kind of defense for him seeing as how he has been one of the most consistently anti-establishment politicians for decades now.

Maybe Bernie actually is just another stooge for those in power and in all honesty I don't care because his message makes sense.


But, but Hillary...
But, but Obama...
But, but Bernie...
But, but the libtards...
But, but the dems...
But, but the lefties...
But, but the socialists...
But, but the terrorists...
But, but the migrants...
But, but...
But...
...
..
.
Just to deflect, while the world is laughing about the "great leader"(even his allies) and watching how the rope is pulled tighter and tighter around his neck, from hour to hour. Only a little bastion of 60+m former US and worldwide(most of them in the former USSR miniature-states) blinded and fooled, "left behind, concerned amd enraged" "Braunhemden"can´t admit that they were fooled, once again, by the same system.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: Khaleesi
a reply to: Martin75

Bernie is losing some of his support. I recently started following on twitter one of the lawyers involved in the DNC fraud case. Here is a recent tweet from her.




twitter.com...

If you don't want to go on twitter, it says:



Bernie telling progressives that's it's their turn at the trough, basically. No longer railing against corruption. It's hopeless. It's over.


Followed by a link to an article with a short video of Bernie. Bernie is beginning to lose his shine to those that are actually listening to what he is saying now and comparing it to what he was saying during the primaries.

This is wonderful news! It means that people are starting to actually pay attention to what is being said, good.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 11:56 AM
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a reply to: DerBeobachter

Interesting.

Here I though the whole Russia Trump collusion thing just went up in smoke.

But I guess if your definition of the rope tightening around Trump is that the deep state and media are just bouncing from one accusation to another, then yes, you can be sure that this will continue for foreseeable future.

Glad to see you are such a fan of them attempting to overthrow an elected leader!

Oh, and how does this have to do with Bernie being a hypocrite?



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 12:02 PM
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I've been seeing a lot of these types of threads from both sides lately.

Here is something people should realize.

1. The rhetoric from the left does cause those on the right to take violent action against what they hear and see as a threat.

2. The rhetoric from the right does cause those on the left to take violent action against what they hear and see as a threat.

You are all the same , your just to blind to see it.

As far as berine being a hypocrite, lets not forget that he fought for many years for civil rights and had republicans physically assault him and he saw repubs hurt others. Is it any wonder he would feel differently about 2 different attacks? That being said It is true that these things happened to him in the past but because, in part, the things he accomplished back than it is a very different political world now. He seems more out of touch with today's repubs more than that he was being an intentional hypocrite.
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