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Study: Physically Weak Men More Likely To Be Socialists

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posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: DanteGaland
And MENTALLY smarter people ... who are physically weaker will BEAT and DEFEAT stronger, dumber alphas every time.

Brains OVER brawn.

And progressives OVERWHELMINGLY contain a disproportionate number of intellectuals.

They just dont BREED as quickly.


You have been mislead.

Intellectualism is not the same as intelligence.





Try explaining that though.





posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: SprocketUK


Builders are pretty much middle class, self employed types who tend not to be socialists,


maybe in the UK, but i'm in the U.SA. every contractor i know is a hard core capitalist and well above middle class and most started working in the fields for their parents, or another contractor. the ones that have employees, or sub contractors that might be self employed, they are at work by seven and and work well into the evenings during the summer in the heat, and cold during winter. lifting most every thing by hand, that can be. it would take way to long to swing in a boom truck, forklift or any other equipment every time something had to be moved or lifted.



same with cops and the military.


again in the U.S. cops, firemen, and military are mostly conservative and are capitalist. there maybe be a few socialist in their ranks, but i tend to think that by going by the folks i knew and know in the military, fire fighters, and yes cops, and the ones i see and hear on television.



Landscapers again, tend to be self employed.


just because your self employed doesn't make you a mamby pamby, sissy boy. most are out just as construction workers, on the job by 7 and work late in the evenings, in the heat and cold.



I disagree about driving trucks, hell, power steering, people to unload and load you, ratchet straps...None of it requires physical strength anymore.


you don't know much about truck driving do you? once more here in the U.S, you maybe loaded at your load point, but your responsible for your load being secure, chain, binders, and straps get heavy. if you have more than one stop/ delivery you have to move your load around and then secure it once more. many package aren't on pallets, and are stacked up. some stops require that the driver unload the truck or use to when me and my dad drove. plus many drivers maintain their own trucks, and do major repairs. on a diesel engine nothing is light. ever lift a Cummings head by hand, i have and and that will make you grunt.

you know i could go on and on, but i think that maybe things might be just a little different in the UK than here in the states in the way work is done. like when you say shop, i think of a place where manual labor is done equipment and materials are stored and and not just selling stuff.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 04:52 PM
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That's because they need others to take care of them.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: ketsuko

Why does everyone here think that being a socialist person means relying on others?

How about others relying on them?







I have people who rely on me. They are my family, immediate and extended. As far as I am concerned, no one else has any legitimate claim to rely on me, nor is it my place to legally make them rely on me.

If I choose to extend that, then it should be a voluntary thing - my extension and their acceptance.

But socialism is never voluntary is it? It's always compelled.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: SprocketUK


Builders are pretty much middle class, self employed types who tend not to be socialists,


maybe in the UK, but i'm in the U.SA. every contractor i know is a hard core capitalist and well above middle class and most started working in the fields for their parents, or another contractor. the ones that have employees, or sub contractors that might be self employed, they are at work by seven and and work well into the evenings during the summer in the heat, and cold during winter. lifting most every thing by hand, that can be. it would take way to long to swing in a boom truck, forklift or any other equipment every time something had to be moved or lifted.



same with cops and the military.


again in the U.S. cops, firemen, and military are mostly conservative and are capitalist. there maybe be a few socialist in their ranks, but i tend to think that by going by the folks i knew and know in the military, fire fighters, and yes cops, and the ones i see and hear on television.



Landscapers again, tend to be self employed.


just because your self employed doesn't make you a mamby pamby, sissy boy. most are out just as construction workers, on the job by 7 and work late in the evenings, in the heat and cold.



I disagree about driving trucks, hell, power steering, people to unload and load you, ratchet straps...None of it requires physical strength anymore.


you don't know much about truck driving do you? once more here in the U.S, you maybe loaded at your load point, but your responsible for your load being secure, chain, binders, and straps get heavy. if you have more than one stop/ delivery you have to move your load around and then secure it once more. many package aren't on pallets, and are stacked up. some stops require that the driver unload the truck or use to when me and my dad drove. plus many drivers maintain their own trucks, and do major repairs. on a diesel engine nothing is light. ever lift a Cummings head by hand, i have and and that will make you grunt.

you know i could go on and on, but i think that maybe things might be just a little different in the UK than here in the states in the way work is done. like when you say shop, i think of a place where manual labor is done equipment and materials are stored and and not just selling stuff.







Half of what you disagreed with in my post was me saying the same things you did
Talk about 2 countries divided by a common language.


I'd suggest that the kind of trucker who will dismantle his own engine would be an owner operator, again, not the sort of person who naturally votes for left leaning parties.

Compared to what truck driving used to be like, it's a doddle in the UK now.
The drivers back up to the loading bay and go on their regulation break, they come back, close the doors and drive on to the next place. It is very rare that they'll be unloading things by hand or having to struggle too much with securing their load. That's how so many women are now truckers, and not just the big beefy types either.

Anyway, my original point was trying to counter the silly notion that there is some correlation between voting socialist and being weedy. There simply isn't, it's just that there are way fewer jobs in general that build you up.

The ones that do tend to build you up tend to also make you more likely to vote Conservative or Republican due to the prevalence of self employment or actual business ownership in those fields.


And just to clarify, self employment means you are responsible for your own taxes, pension etc, no holiday pay, no sick pay...definitely not something that promotes namby pamby attitudes.



posted on Jun, 17 2017 @ 09:47 PM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: ColdWisdom

There's long been a correlation between political persuasion and levels of education. Generally, the higher the education level, the more likely people will lean left. So the study could be correct as higher levels of education lead to more sedentary, non-physical jobs. Conversely those who leave school with few qualifications tend to lean right.

Now, if I was like the OP, I could go off and say Lefties are smarter and Righties are doodoo heads. But we're adults and there could be any number of factors running parallel with education. Age is a factor too. Bicep size isn't all determined by strength or fitness when we get older. Upper arms can be larger even when the actual bicep/tricep muscles are shrinking. Yet the older we get, the more we lean right. The Marxist agitator at 18 is likely to be a moderate centrist at 60. Makes me wonder what becomes of 18 year old neo-Nazis. Do they move left with age?


They may move left with age but not in the areas all media dictates.

And all levels of education seem to insist on making everyone lean left with amazingly detailed programs designed for multi-leveled manipulation.

Do you think more education makes people go left because it is just naturally always going to go that way, or is it something else, added to the curriculums.



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 04:41 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

outside ats coyote has a socialist guy friend that yes I concur with scientists lol



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


you win I love this response



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 05:35 PM
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a reply to: Kandinsky


There's long been a correlation between political persuasion and levels of education. Generally, the higher the education level, the more likely people will lean left.


That appears to be true.

There's a very nice article and study here: PEW: A Wider Ideological Gap Between More and Less Educated Adults

And I agree for the most part, as well as

the study could be correct as higher levels of education lead to more sedentary, non-physical jobs. Conversely those who leave school with few qualifications tend to lean right.


Then again, some would also argue that because many institutions of higher learning are "liberal," their "liberal" influence tends to rub off—er, indoctrinate—the student body. Some would argue that.

Going back to the study of physically weak mean leaning left/socialists, I wonder if it also has anything to do with which parts of the those who identify as left or right use, and how the more primitive, fear-center part of the brain (amygdala) seems to be larger, and used more by those who lean right; essentially: how the aspects of physical labor, education as it relates to labor, and the evolutionary aspects of survival (of which strength is a large part) all contribute to this.



posted on Jun, 18 2017 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Like someone else said studying 171 English men is far from being exact. Take myself for instance I am a 5'10" 220 lbs American and am almost solid muscle. I can easily bench 250 lbs and leg press 2000 lbs. With a working i.q of 140 and I am all for Democratic socialism. With employee owned means.



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