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originally posted by: angeldoll
Reading the responses in this thread has made me more hopeful that we haven't all lost our minds, and that we can turn our country around before it's too late. What are "the good ole days?" The good ole days are when we didn't hate each other and wish each other dead because of our political beliefs.
Thank you all. I don't feel so alone now.
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
The tone of this place has changed from warm, welcoming, and polite to cold, hateful, and rude.
Imagine a new poster deciding to join this site and deciding to participate only to be met with condescension and hate. Either they will leave the site or they will start posting the same way they see others posting.
This isn't the same place as it used to be and I believe ATS is a microcosm of America and a lot of the world right now, divided and hostile. Things aren't looking good in my opinion.
That's odd. When I got home and walk around the neighborhood, I am not met with condescension nor hate. I can talk politics with the more extreme leftys and rightys and after it's over, we go about our day. When I come to work it's the same. At the store, the same.
What I'm trying to say here is that whatever is here at ATS is amplified and anonymous. It's not the real lifeblood of the U.S. It is this posters opinion that between social media, the media and government, they are blowing everything way out of proportion and amplifying it themselves all for profit.
originally posted by: angeldoll
Firstly, this is not about Kumbayah, or snowflakes, being triggered, unicorns, or pay it forward, fake news, or who is the smartest.
It's not a joke thead, nor is it an admonishment, for I am as guilty as the rest.
Its' about who we are becoming and where are we headed. I'm not talking about this forum, singularly. It is only a collection of many other thoughts and feelings, both on and off line.
I'm referring to our country. Our relationships with one another, and recognizing that we are at a crossroads, and we must make a decision about who we are going to be, and if we choose to stay on this course, because it is a choice.
In other words, are we sure the place we are going is really the place we want to be?
There's alway the folks who hope for civil war, total annialation, the destruction of everything and I'm not talking to them. You are in your own horrid depressing little mind set, and you can stay there or hopefully try to find a way out of your private hell. I wish you the best, but this thread is not for you.
I'm talking to those of us who work and have families, or those who strive for joy in our lives, and peace. Who want the country we seem to be at each other's throats over, to continue to be one we can live in with peace and safety. With some reasonable expectations of what tomorrow might bring.
We are in the process of destroying it. Not Russia, not Congess, not Trump or Hillary, or the so-called "deep state". We are doing it to ourselves. Think about it. The frog is successfully in the warm water, and it's become a lot warmer in the last few months,( or, hmmm, haven't you noticed?)
I think I can mostly say, that the majority of us disapprove of the way Middle Eastern countries, Arabs, live. We dislike their culture; the way women and children are treated. We dislike all the rules they must abide by to simply get through the day without getting into trouble with their governments. But mostly, we dislike how they frequently kill one another over the ideologies of their religion. Killing each other over IDEOLOGIES.
Is that where we are going? KIlling each other over ideologies? Only we are worse. They are killing one another at least over a percieved prophet. And we are killing each over, (or want to at times) over what? A political ideology? POLITICS?
Again think about it. I saw a thread recently here, disdaining how women dress. If they dress like whores, then they can be treated like a whore. Where does that come from?
So, liberals want to kill conservatives. Conservatives want to kill liberals. They are scum, and I really can't remember all the name-calling and insults. ( Some people were so excited about it today. Who can make the first thread?) The worst of us? The threads weren't written as news, were they? What was the tone? They were an invitation to voice hatred and disdain.
So to think "I am killing my enemy. A Sunni". "I am killing my enemy, A Shia". Or whatever.
Shall we kill our 'enemy" a Democrat? A Republican? Is that how much of a tiny box we are moving into, like the Arabs? Shutting out all the light, and seeing only in tunnel vision?
Killing someone's Dad? Someone's wife or husband. Someone's son. Someone's grandfather, or grandson. Someone who has hopes and dreams, and wants to raise their kids, and play softball to raise money for kids, or take their wife to dinner this weekend, or go to their granddaugher's birthday party.
But the political ideation/ affiliation is all they see? Where are we going with this, and where did it come from? How did we get here? Is it a phase? Growing pains? Is it temperary? Because if it's not, there won't be much left of us as a country. We'll go down like so many of the ME countries have. Where else is there to go? Where? If we hate each other over political beliefs, where is there to go?
This shallow mindedness, and superficial superiority is like a cement block tied around the ankles, and there is nothing in front of you but the sea. All of us.
And the constant promotion of hatred! My God! We have some of the greatest distributors of hatred now. And for what? Come spew out your hatred here, and give me some meaningless stars!
Ever stop to think some those hateful comments might be the last straw to push an already unstable person over the edge?
Like the shooter today at the ball park. Where did HE post? Where did he go on-line to feed his hatred and distribute his own for others to feed on? Somewhere. He's somewhere on-line and we can take that to the bank. He fed his fear and disdain and fed it and fed it until he could no longer contain it all so he snapped. Who fed him? Did you? Did I? How can we know?
I usually default to thinking the best of people. It's my nature. I don't think most of here want to be a part of the generation who took the great United States of American down.
I don't, do you really? What a sad legacy if you do. But it's happening. Brick by brick. Value by value.
Someone said to me today "You can't hide hatred, it doesn't make it go away".
But you know what? HIDE IT. Hide it out of existence. Because like ebola virus, or herpes, some things are better not shared.
From my heart to yours,
originally posted by: midnightstar
Thing is it is a very small group of people using every thing at there disposal to create hate and make it grow .
And the other 85% of people are falling for it .
Hate the Muslims all terrorists . Hate the Mexicans all illegals. Hate the blacks all Criminals .
Hate the whites all oppressive . Hate the Jews all rich and stealing money .
Hate the Chinese all using us to there own gain cheat to do it .
Hate the Russians ( do i even need to put anything here ?
originally posted by: Krakatoa
In the spirit of free and open exchange of ideas, it is not cool to shout down a differing opinion like that.