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originally posted by: TheNewsMan
I'm going to thoroughly enjoy watching McGregor get his face shattered by Mr. Money.
originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
a reply to: one4all
What translates well in mma does not translate that well in boxing. Connor may be a bit bigger and stronger, but you got to remeber the rounds in boxing are shorter and the gloves bigger. Why do you think Mayweather choose to fight with 10oz gloves, its not his first time at this as well. With 10 oz gloves on even heavyweights dont have a easy time hitting that liver shot, to much padding and for a guy like mayweather whose whole strategy is to never open himself up.
Well when you moving forward aggressively that is when your at you most prone to get hit, and its always the punch you don't see coming. And if your constantly throwing, your bound to not see punches coming. Your whole gameplan of Connor trying to imitate Mike Tyson is not going to work, not only that better boxer have tried that attempt ie pacman, golden boy, and others.
In fact a great part of Mayweathers game is counting on people doing exactly what you said Connor should do, and so far over 49 fights its been working out for him. Do you imagine even though he is older it wont now, when his whole gameplan is sort of counting on it in most of his other fights.
If Connor fights like you want him to, and try to imitate Tyson and constantly look for the KO, he will get caught, not by one or two shoots but likely by 100 peppering shots and be drooped in round 10 or so because of the cumulative effect. I do not think it is a good plan at all, in fact even if he catches him in the early rounds I dont think jumping on him with punches in bunches is a good plan. In MMA with mma gloves and rules ya, mayweather would be done. In boxing, no.
The only real way or at least that I see, is if Connor gets Mayweather to come out of his defensive game, then he can knock him out, but being overly aggressive is pretty much what a boxer like Mayweather thrives on and waits for in his oponents, its what he has trained his whole life to do in some respects.
Not sure how serious Connor is on this boxing match, most likely doing it for the money and so is Mayweather, and everything is purely spectacle and entertainment. But chances are that he is going to get KOed by mayweather if he comes out trying to imitate Mike Tyson of all people, and mayweather is not really a heavy hitter, but a lot if not most KO's come in that moment when one commits to an overattack and gets kracked by a punch they did not see coming because they were full on bull vs matador mode.
Connor has a change to beat and even KO mayweather, but I seriously doubt it would be by playing the overaggressive bully gameplan.
You know now that I think about it, this boxing match or fight or whatever it turns out to be, may be more interesting then the nutcracker ballet, definitely got the entertaining aspect to it.
think Floyd boxes the opponent INSIDE the ring that nobody owns.....Floyd doesnt take territory he and own it he simply rents it. I want Conor to think like Tyson did IMHO....Gus didnt teach Tyson to emotionally involve himself with his opponents....they were cookie cutter to him....because Gus taught Mike to own the ring first and that once he did that everything else would flll into place.
I do not want Conor bullrushing anyone...I want him HUNTING THE ENTIRE TIME....I want him owning the real estate ...and protecting the real estate with weapons of mass destruction.....this is why I brought up the liver shot......Conor is a lefty and so am I.........you might not think the liver shot is a good choice.....but I do....simply because Floyd has NO IDEA where Conor will be getting off from.........Floyd CANNOT read Conors body language and ring management like he could do with another boxer.
Floyd is going to have snap for 1-2 rounds and he will try to damage Conor early.....then Floyd will simply run......until he thinks Conor is winded......but but but.....this is not a Boxing match....this is a fight...Conor does not have to fight like a boxer....lol....he doesnt have to dance and waste energy every round batteling for real estate.....he simply has to take what he has and use it optimally inside the ring.
.IMHO Conor does not have these instincts for Floyd to read off of......and I want to see it kept this way....and I want to see Conor hunting,to see him own the ring like Mike and just look for end shots....no boxing games....just the fighting game.
You are exactly right that punchers need opponents to bring momentum towards them......that they need to find clashes of direction and momentum to 2x and 3x the impact of their shots....of course you wish to have or set someone up to walk into a shot..... lol.....Conor knows this .....he isnt rushing into anything....but I want him to dominate the fight.....and this does not mean outboxing Floyd it means Knocking him the hades out.
No one is expecting to see a boxing match....everyone is expecting a fistfight.....if one of the men in the ring shows fear or trepidation or runs and "boxes" and refuses to engage....that man will lose this fight in the eyes of 3 generations of boxing/MMA fans.