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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: Open_Minded Skeptic

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: queenofswords
Antifa sure seems to fit in the radical and violent category.



Indeed they do. Just like in socialist and communist countries, free speech is one of the first things attacked. Antifa, with their violent attacks against speakers with opposing views, fits into that domestic terrorism category, for sure.


Not a big fan of the use of violence in political discourse in the US, be it from the left or right. I do understand the anger that is leading some on the left to use inappropriate tactics.

That said, there is nothing inherent in socialism or communism that leads to suppression of free speech or any other freedom. What is true is that throughout history anti-freedom types have adopted communistic government styles and suppressed freedom. But that is a case of monsters adopting a political approach to further their own ends.

A representative republic style of government is more resistant to this kind of abuse than a monarchy or dictatorship or communism, but there is nothing inherent in any government style that inevitably leads to suppression.

And as we are seeing right now, freedoms can be suppressed even in a country that is a representative republic. There is no denying that we are seeing substantial inroads on freedom in the US right now, from both political extremes.

It is my opinion that the suppression happening from the right is the more dangerous at the moment, because most political power positions are currently filled by people on the right. Or to be more precise, they are filled by corporate lapdogs who happen to be on the right.

But to attribute this to any given economic or political model is a big mistake. It's similar to saying that LGBT people are child molesters. The truth is that there are some predators out there that target children and happen to be LGBT. But being LGBT is NOT why they are predators.

Staying stuck on this idea that a given economic or political model is inherently anti-freedom is part of what is keeping the US in a never ending cycle of stupidity.


If you understand and accept the leftist violence that happened this moring, you would appear to be part of the problem and not the solution. I do NOT accept assassination attempts on any side of the arguments and those that do perpetuate the violence indefinitely...




posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: queenofswords

Your thread is disgusting opportunism and only serves to ramp up the hatred between Americans.


When will you call out all the anti-Trump Leftists for ramping up the hatred between Americans?
Oh wait....you won't because you are anti-Trump.
It has to go both ways.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: Lab4Us

The opposite is true as well, seeking to preserve the ability to reject based on identity. Why do we have to play this game of but you, no but you, no but you... a baseball team made of people from Congress, with children present was shot up today. Let's take a few and be grateful no one but the shooter died and stand together and say this isn't okay.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: Lab4Us
If you understand and accept the leftist violence that happened this moring, you would appear to be part of the problem and not the solution. I do NOT accept assassination attempts on any side of the arguments and those that do perpetuate the violence indefinitely...


Where did I say anything about accepting this kind of behavior? I understand the reasons behind it, I DO NOT accept or agree with or participate in it.

You would actually appear to be more of the problem, since you seem to filter what is actually said by what you want to have been said, and then react to that instead of what has really been said.




posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:50 AM
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WHO benefits?

This IS a conspiracy board, RIGHT?

Liberals and Democrats do NOT benefit from this.

FUNNY that the social media page is so ... OBVIOUS. I bet this "Deep State" also has TONS of "throwaway" social media profiles.

This is HOW you get 1984. This is HOW Trump will consolidate power.

Events like THESE are Trump's Reichstag Fire.

It's more PLAUSIBLE than Pizza.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: queenofswords

Your thread is disgusting opportunism and only serves to ramp up the hatred between Americans.


When will you call out all the anti-Trump Leftists for ramping up the hatred between Americans?
Oh wait....you won't because you are anti-Trump.
It has to go both ways.


I suggest if you're going to make such a definitive statement about me, you go through my post history and make sure you know wtf you're talking about.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:58 AM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: queenofswords

Oh boo-hoo. You put enough in a box to warrant everything I said. It's ridiculous that every time something horrible like this happens we have to play the numbers game of people identifying as _____ have also done horrible things. It is a human problem and nothing else. Every possible identity label has had someone commit a heinous act in it's name.

No one can hardly take five minutes to absorb tragedy, to comfort each other, to say this is horrible, to ask how can I help, before we start defending or attacking. It's enough already.


You have no integrity... thats your problem, its free speach and hes acknowledging the facts, but there is no attack. I noticed what he is saying.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 12:04 PM
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And it's WELL established that the "Bernie Bros" have been INFILTRATED by Russian FSB/GRU to UNDERMINE and stir up TROUBLE.

Remember Putin consolidated HIS power through domestic terrorism.

Apartment bombings ANYONE?

We DIDNT hear much about that HERE in the USA. That IS how he CONVINCED his own people.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 12:09 PM
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It's interesting that whenever some jackass Trump supporter goes and does something violent and ignorant - many people will ( rightly ) post that it's got nothing to do with Trump and crazy people just tend to do crazy things.

More interesting that some of the very same people I just mentioned are here making incredibly contradictory statements because this particular crazy person was apparently a Bernie supporter.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 12:12 PM
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The PARADOX of the gun-hating, peace-loving leftist?

I thought the left WANTED to take AWAY guns?

I think UNFORTUNATLEY the right-wingers have serious miscalculated AND self-appropriated THEMSELVES as the masters of guns.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: Hefficide

To be fair, whenever there is a shooting, many want to take away the guns AND rights of everyone else.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 12:21 PM
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originally posted by: Hefficide

It's interesting that whenever some jackass Trump supporter goes and does something violent and ignorant - many people will ( rightly ) post that it's got nothing to do with Trump and crazy people just tend to do crazy things.

More interesting that some of the very same people I just mentioned are here making incredibly contradictory statements because this particular crazy person was apparently a Bernie supporter.


Well...that's not what this OP is supposed to be about. It is about a FACTION of extreme Bernie fanatics, of which this individual was one, calling for violence and justifying mass murder based on their extreme left-wing views.

It was not supposed to disparage the typical Bernie supporter who probably has benign reasons for voting for him. This is about the Weathermen/Bill Ayers types that seem to be coming out of the Socialist wing of the Democratic Party.

Discussing the radicalization and organization of these far left socialist groups apart from the typical nut job in a political party is a good conversation to have, imo, considering Antifa, BAMN, and other such groups that appear to be rising up and organizing in a manner like a domestic terrorist group.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 12:22 PM
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a reply to: queenofswords

Sen. Sanders deemed Vought unsuitable for office because he believes that salvation is found alone through Jesus Christ. He said someone with that kind of a religious belief system is “really not someone who this country is supposed to be about.”
FoxNews
Sen. James Lankford warned that Sander’s comments “dangerously close to crossing a clear constitutional line for how we evaluate qualifications for public service.”

Bernie is a slimy weasel. He stands for only what he thinks will get him something. He proved that when he rolled over for HilDog.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: queenofswords

You say this as if I didn't read a local news story yesterday about a local Congressman in my area who recently posed with a group of heavily armed III% militia idiots throwing up white power hand gestures.

IE there's radicalization on both sides and it's the fringe. There have always been outliers in every camp, left, right, middle and way out in center field who gravitate toward this sort of deviant and irrational behavior.

I see todays shooter as no more indicative of the adults in the room than I think of the neonazi idiot in Portland who went on a stabbing spree a few weeks ago. These are crazy people and it doesn't at all help our rational discourse to include them in the conversation as if they're representative of anything more than the fringe nutjobs they are.

Bernie's Twitter already has a post saying "I am sickened by this despicable act. Let me be as clear as I can be. Violence of any kind is unacceptable in our society."



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 12:27 PM
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The far left has embraced Marxism and all it entails in practice, including violence and intimidation.
Hence Bernie is their hero.
The media has swung far left and incites violence and drives division at every opportunity.
Armies of internet posters defend the propaganda.
Organised terrorists outfits like Antifa and BLM shut down dissent.

That one of them would resort to attempted mass murder is not a surprise and my guess is it will continue to get worse until the cancer of the far left is cured. That will be a long haul.
edit on 14/6/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 12:45 PM
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It's ODD to me...and WIERD.

All these right-winger gun NUTS who carry ON and ON about how they NEED guns for a possible REVOLUTION get so sad about someone ACTING on it.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 12:46 PM
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originally posted by: DanteGaland
It's ODD to me...and WIERD.

All these right-winger gun NUTS who carry ON and ON about how they NEED guns for a possible REVOLUTION get so sad about someone ACTING on it.



So the revolution has started?

At least for some, it obviously has.




posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: Hefficide

And Trump DIDN'T denounce the Portland NeoNazi.

At least BERNIE came out swinging IMMEDIATLEY to say "NO, this is NOT OK".

There's a real and CLEAR difference.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: DanteGaland
It's ODD to me...and WIERD.

All these right-winger gun NUTS who carry ON and ON about how they NEED guns for a possible REVOLUTION get so sad about someone ACTING on it.



Those "right-winger" nuts were your founding fathers and they did not intend for shootings in the street because you lost a democratic election.
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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
Those "right-winger" nuts were your founding fathers and they did not intend for shootings in the street because you lost a democratic election.


AND they were ALSO leftists and PROGRESSIVES.





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