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BREAKING: House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, multiple aides shot at Congressional baseball practice

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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: introvert




I know what he said. As a socialist, I'd be considered hard Left, would I not?

But I am not the type of person he described.

He's talking out of his ass in order to perpetuate the narrative that is being built in this thread.

Many of you (not necessarily you) should be ashamed of how ignorant you are.


Human beings tend to speak in general terms. It's not about "perpetuating narratives".


Then why are some people trying to do so, even in this thread?

This is not just about this thread either. You see the same thing occur in others as well.

Some cannot let a good crisis go to waste.




posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: Konduit
Really puts this into perspective.

I hope someone plays the video and listens, it is right there, coming out of the snake's mouth.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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Quite sickening that in light of this tragedy this thread is, as expected, turning into a partisan pissing match blame game.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: introvert

So...

I spoke up for you against a label being twisted to falsely describe you.

Will you speak for me when others try to falsely denigrate the symbol of my heritage?

TheRedneck



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: introvert




cannot let a good crisis go to waste.

Perspective would involve the person that made that quote famous.
Rahm Emmanuel
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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: introvert

Yes its official he was targeting Republicans,Congressman Jeff Duncan said in the news. Base on the few spoken words of the shooter before targeting Republicans.

It was live in the news.

End of story.




posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

It also happens to be the President's birthday today.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance

I scrolled back through four years of his FB posts (On the 'James Hodgkinson' account, not the 'James T. Hodgkinson' one). The shooter was relentless in his political FB postings.

I would have purged him from my FB friend list. I can't stand when people do that.

It would not be an exaggeration to call him obsessed with spouting his political opinion.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: matafuchs

You don't know what triggered this guy or why he did it.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Xtrozero

Really?

White supremacist terror accounts for more incidents over the last 10 to 15 years, than does any other kind of terrorism in the USA.

White supremacists are not known for their liberal, lefty mindset.


That is a lie that was debunked on the NLBS thread and a thread I did after that.

The study that claims that listed anything that was a violent action toward a minority (including things like vandalism) and yet does not list minority crimes towards whites, in addition to many other problems.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: Ohanka

Yes thank you for the continued divisiveness.
Always helpful.

One would think something like this would be uniting. What happens to one of us happens to all.

You know...Americans.
Oh well.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: GuidedKill

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: TheRedneck
Thinking out loud...

Hodgkins on could not have gotten the gun locally... the gun laws there are crazy, especially with an out-of-state ID. He had to have brought the gun with him. That means he didn't fly, because guns are not allowed on planes. He had to drive.

I'm trying to remember how long that takes... looks like at least a 12 hour drive from Danville on the Illinios/Indiana state line. He had to have driven at least overnight, and it is my experience that very few can drive straight for 12 hours and still be able to do what he did.

I guess it's possible he got to DC earlier and was already there, but that is even more disturbing... it means he had this planned for days. This was, either way, NOT just some guy who lost it! This was an assassin.

Someone earlier mentioned he had a business of some sort? Or am I mistaken? Why would he leave any kind of decent life, drive a couple days, and risk his life to attack Republicans? This ain't adding up.

FOX now showing protest photos of him...

TheRedneck


Guns actually are allowed on planes, you just can't bring it in the cabin with you. It has to be in a hard-sided case, locked, unloaded, and checked as checked baggage.


True statement guns are allowed on planes....I hate flying my rifles with me...Baggage handlers always rough up my case and somehow knock my scope out. I always take my hunters to the range when they get off the plane to make sure their scopes are still dialed in./......


I haven't tried it yet. Driving state to state is a nightmare because of the tangled web of thousands of laws. This is why we need national reciprocity.

On a related note, I've got some #ing pizza coming.


I have the CCW in FL as well as some non resident CCW for other states. Also retired LE so I lean on LEOSA. I can carry in most states legally except the for a very limited few...Makes it nice that's for sure...



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: introvert

I always try. The problem is that your self-admitted label has been hijacked and used by those you disagree with.

I can sympathize. The flag many of my ancestors fought and died under, a symbol of pride and heritage, has been hijacked by hateful fools who try to twist its meaning into prejudice and hate.

TheRedneck


the liberal media and its divisive rhetoric are the hook for multiple police officer deaths and the continued downward spiral of American culture, until people pull their heads out of their ass and wake up to the large scale brainwashing then this will only get worse


Is this your desktop wallpaper?



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: introvert

So...

I spoke up for you against a label being twisted to falsely describe you.

Will you speak for me when others try to falsely denigrate the symbol of my heritage?

TheRedneck


I've never understand all that nonsense surrounding the Confederate flag.

People should have simply left all of that alone. If it's part of your heritage, fly it.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: face23785

Let's not forget about people like Kathy Griffin, Snoop Dogg and the media outlets that promote them for normalizing violence against elected officials.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: GuidedKill

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: GuidedKill

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: TheRedneck
Thinking out loud...

Hodgkins on could not have gotten the gun locally... the gun laws there are crazy, especially with an out-of-state ID. He had to have brought the gun with him. That means he didn't fly, because guns are not allowed on planes. He had to drive.

I'm trying to remember how long that takes... looks like at least a 12 hour drive from Danville on the Illinios/Indiana state line. He had to have driven at least overnight, and it is my experience that very few can drive straight for 12 hours and still be able to do what he did.

I guess it's possible he got to DC earlier and was already there, but that is even more disturbing... it means he had this planned for days. This was, either way, NOT just some guy who lost it! This was an assassin.

Someone earlier mentioned he had a business of some sort? Or am I mistaken? Why would he leave any kind of decent life, drive a couple days, and risk his life to attack Republicans? This ain't adding up.

FOX now showing protest photos of him...

TheRedneck


Guns actually are allowed on planes, you just can't bring it in the cabin with you. It has to be in a hard-sided case, locked, unloaded, and checked as checked baggage.


True statement guns are allowed on planes....I hate flying my rifles with me...Baggage handlers always rough up my case and somehow knock my scope out. I always take my hunters to the range when they get off the plane to make sure their scopes are still dialed in./......


I haven't tried it yet. Driving state to state is a nightmare because of the tangled web of thousands of laws. This is why we need national reciprocity.

On a related note, I've got some #ing pizza coming.


I have the CCW in FL as well as some non resident CCW for other states. Also retired LE so I lean on LEOSA. I can carry in most states legally except the for a very limited few...Makes it nice that's for sure...


I have Florida CCW as well, but it's a non-resident one. Some states don't recognize it the same as if you're a Florida resident, such as Pennsylvania. Which is absurd because the requirements to get a non-resident Florida CCW are more stringent than the requirements to get a PA CCW.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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So everyone agrees that the original American Revolution was immoral?
We should have stayed as subjects to the British Throne?

Because if you think about it, thousands of people got shot.
Government officials got executed and it was a hell of a series of terrorist attacks.

I don't agree with whomever because I don't care, what I'm interested in is the Hypocrisy and Ignorance of everyone's posts and opinions here in this thread. The way it sounds to me is that everyone on both sides, including the leftists who are scrambling to distance themselves from the shooter, is that you folks would vehemently condemn the folks at the Battles of Lexington and Concord for shooting at the .Gov of their day.

Instead of getting emotionally wrapped up into all of this, and supporting/opposing certain political stances - look at this from the neutral standpoint. If he was indeed targeting Republicans than he was a 1 man revolution and his revolt failed miserably.

It's war, people die. Governments institute their authority through violent force and coercion based on threats of the use of violent force to ensure their hegemony. Violence begets violence.

This is how the world works. All of you love violence, it's like a lamp to moths. You hate the burn but God you love the violence. All our movies and TV shows are violent, our sports are violent, even half our music is violent. Everyone's so violent despite denying it at every turn, just review the evidence of what you spend your time watching/thinking about and observe your feelings and reactions and political agendas.

On one side half of you think leftist action groups need to be banned and rounded up (via violent tactics) and don't mind if the police beat the crap outta them in the process. The other half, well, yall see how it is and are ready to violently stand up against the guys who just won power back. It's like two sniveling selfish schoolchildren who are willing to do anything to beat each other no matter how underhanded or unfair it is. It's real unabashed HATRED.

This is America folks. Although it hasn't gone full scale (or even limited in scope) yet, this is just the tip of the iceberg that is the real true WAR that all of you are fighting. This is how everyone feels. This is what Hate is all about. Can you feel the chaos??? Doesn't it make you just wanna scream???

Look, I realize I'm getting outta hand here but think about it.
Yall lack perspective and context, you fail to recognize the legitimacy of your mortal enemies because you are selfish and have a superiority complex based on which group you identify with while enemy groups don't even have a legitimate cause (in your mind). This is the essence of corruption and hypocrisy. This is how life has always been throughout human history. The winner writes the history too, that's why it doesn't always look as bad as it looks right now.

Once you recognize that this is a war of ideology and that winner takes all, than you will realize that you are merely fighting your own brothers and sisters and that you are sorely misled by all of your pointless opinions. That you are partaking in hate and accept brutality (unless it's done against your team of course).

Then maybe you'll wake the hell up and start changing your mentality.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: introvert

I always try. The problem is that your self-admitted label has been hijacked and used by those you disagree with.

I can sympathize. The flag many of my ancestors fought and died under, a symbol of pride and heritage, has been hijacked by hateful fools who try to twist its meaning into prejudice and hate.

TheRedneck


Agreed and at the same time the polar opposite of the equation uses that hijacked label to perpetuate their own narratives.


Your problem is that you never condemn those on the far left that have 'hijacked' your political ideology - rather you obfuscate and make excuses - whilst often condemning the lunatics on the far right.

Perhaps you should consider dialling down your hatred and stopping the spreading of lies and innuendo.

This attack is a pretty simple case of a far left lunatic shooting Republicans for political reasons.
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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: introvert

So...

I spoke up for you against a label being twisted to falsely describe you.

Will you speak for me when others try to falsely denigrate the symbol of my heritage?

TheRedneck


I've never understand all that nonsense surrounding the Confederate flag.

People should have simply left all of that alone. If it's part of your heritage, fly it.


Hey I can star one of your posts.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: face23785

Go check your numbers again.

Also, white supremacy is a right wing issue. Its not a matter for discussion. Its a fact. The Earth goes round the Sun, the Solar System is only large until you consider the scale of the universe, and white supremacy is undertaken by those who most predominantly vote Republican or further right than that, which is why white supremacists are rightly described as far right.

Try again yourself.


Fine. But then black people overwhelming support democrats, so are you willing to say all black violence is left wing?




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