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My Reptilian Abduction

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posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 07:24 PM
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wow, thats avery stange story but reptilians?




posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by lizzardsamok

Originally posted by Nygdan

So if i understand correctly, you have two basic sources of experience with these things. Your own abuction, and hte reports of a military person that you receved ina ~4hour conversation, which you feel is trustworthy because his story, where it would overlap with yours, agreed with it.

the first 2 years , yes , there have been many talks like that one since with many others.



Why does this guy have 'knowledge' not normally meant for apes tho? His source was his own experiences or part of background information that the military gave him, as like, part of his training or something?


he has firsthand experiences with reptoids like me most of them do,
he also hears from his buddies other things that they saw or know.
let me give you an example of training he told me of.
they show trainiees pictures of diff beings but not the real ones just similar then slowly build up to showing the real picture. this takes 3 weeks, its desenitizing them to other life forms.
they started doing this when 2 guards died from fright/heartattack as 2 "wolf guys" came down the hall unexpectedly.(yes wolf humanoids)



Hmm-

US radio moderator Art Bell received the same Information from John Lear (former Lockheed L-1011 captain, known for his revelations about UFOs) during a 4 hour broadcast in 2003:

" ... the guards at one facility are carefully indoctrinated over several months being shown pictures similar to but not exactly like the alien. Only when he'd been acclimatized, so to speak, of the horrible looking beings are they allowed to stand in security positions. Before these acclimatizations were done, we had two guards die of a heart attack as the aliens came down the hallway unexpectedly."

I'm not sure if he was referring to "wolf guys" though.



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by lizzardsamok
You have never succesfully found a discrepency in my story only found your misunderstanding of clearly written text.


I think I have found one:

"... we never saw them leave ! they just left us two humans standing near original spot they took us from, but 12- 15 away from where we were,
the car doors that were open were now closed and we did not close them (...)

We went to the car and had no recalection of why we were standing there and why it was dark and why cars doors were open and why we were so far from car. "



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:29 PM
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... but I truly love the drawings I've posted below-

what size are the originals, and would you perhaps sell them?

Send me an "U2U" if interested, I'm not joking!






posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by popular mechanics
Hmm-
US radio moderator Art Bell received the same Information from John Lear (former Lockheed L-1011 captain, known for his revelations about UFOs) during a 4 hour broadcast in 2003:

I'm not sure if he was referring to "wolf guys" though.


Hah, i bet my source was right if you keep digging they might state what it was but my source said wolf guys, very nice and valiant too he said.
I knew it about 8 years ago....



I think I have found one:
the car doors that were open were now closed and we did not close them (...)
why cars doors were open and why we were so far from car. "

yes good job you found a typo....


Sell pictures? lol for what on gods earth for?
How much? lol
Im going to make better ones those i drew for a friend i put them on net so you could see at least something for reference.

AND PLEASE DONT LINK PICTURES FROM MY SITE !
it makes the transfer limit go to limit and stops others from viewing it!

I even put java script in there to stop you from taking images!
when you right click it says email me ! thank you so much for blatently disregaurding my wishes.........

Ill pull the whole thing if things are abused and used in the wrong way.



[edit on 3-3-2005 by lizzardsamok]



posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 12:37 AM
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For Lizzardsamok:

My picture link does not generate traffic on your homepage. It goes to my image hosting service, so I pay for all the hits.
I stole the Jpegs from your site, but will delete them if you want.
I want the originals much more-
before we talk prices, please let me know what size they are.


[edit on 3-3-2005 by popular mechanics]



posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 12:43 AM
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It goes to my image hosting service, so I pay for all the hits.
I stole the Jpegs from your site, but will delete them if you want.
I want the originals much more

cool thanks, sorry
keep them but dont distribute or edit them.
much more ? like what? and why?

pictures paper was 11x14.
I drew all those on one peice of paper front and back.
why does it matter the size?

why do you want them at all?
why woudnt you want better ones?
what will you do with them?
did you see the other ones with tentacle close up?
I am making better ones for investagators at thier request, would you want those?


ps the ufo is going to change a bit, skeptics will love that! lol
but those images were to show the bottom more than top.
the top is actually bigger and ship less fat and perfectlly symetrical.
i drew those in less than 1 hour just to show 1 friend that day.....
and my topic was the tentacale and the cow, my drawing of perceptions and angles is lacking alittle.... i was trying also to show the hollowness under ufo as no ufo stories ever mention that i thought it was important to tell these points....

Im updating the website so it will change to....
i have made a little flash movie to show cow mute process but real thing takes almost a full minute not 10 seconds as depicted.....
so everyone please don crituqe that either its just an imperfect example to show you what happened ok?, ok.

I also put the lizards insignia i saw on site, thats probably a bad idea too as people might mis use it....
I just wanna show you the bad guys flag so you can identify it if you ever need to...

yes i think ill pull that too.....only the deserved will get info like that from now on.

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posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 01:21 AM
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hello,

well i am a relatively new poster on here, i have been reading alot of posts and not writing them.

this is my 3rd post.

i have spent over an hour reading the first closed forum and 2/3s of this forum which seemed to go in full circle, so i sort of just skipped to the end. i am sorry i didnt have the patience to read all of it! so many insults and horrid accusations. tired of reading them. that is not why i came to the ats forums.

i must say, congratulations for the strength you have had to go about living a normal life (outside of internet/computer) with something like this happening to you.

do not people in general fear the unknown? is that not why people fear and ridicule fantastic and incredible ideas such as the one posted in this forum? we would never know how we would react, of course, this has hardly happened to mass audiences, and we have no proof except what we have seen with our own eyes.

anyways, i went to every site in every single post i read and read over the information i saw.

i also saw your page. the only words i have are how incredible, fantastic, and amazing that is.

on one hand, captain obvious says it is a horrible thing to be witness to such events that you have said you did not want to describe, and a horrible tragedy it is to experience such things.

on the other hand, however, is it a good thing that your mind has been opened? that you have this knowledge? it is a choice you make as to what you do with this knowledge... and a good thing it is to make it public for the world to see. it is the public's choice to deny it or accept it.

i have a really hard time believing that someoen would just make this up and go to all this (IMHO entirely too much trouble to be making it up) trouble being ridiculed on a forum that accepts and encourages radical thinking and ideas pertaining to the paranormal.

lizzardsamok, i am sorry if this is too personal of a question, so please just tell me if you are uncomfortable in answering.

do you think you were destined for this? do you think you are destined for something greater? do you consider this to be a random happenstance in your lifetime of events? was there something intended for you/your friend and only you/your friend to learn? i wonder if you were not meant for something greater than humans could possibly imagine.

i believe we are all destined for something. what happens happens, adn what choices we make, we make and will end in leading to the path we were meant to take. i believe we all have lessons that we are here on earth to learn, good and bad. do you believe this applies to you?

this is about denying ignorance... opening your mind and facing things unknown to you or others. never forget it.


i apologize, lizzardsamok, i realize i really am just contributing my two cents, but your story is absolutely amazing and i wanted to give my humble opinion and support.

thanks,

evanostrand.



posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 01:50 AM
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I just wrote you a long post but accidentally erased it

so this is going to be shorter...


Originally posted by evanostrand
i am sorry i didnt have the patience to read all of it! so many insults and horrid accusations. tired of reading them. that is not why i came to the ats forums.

me too and me either, lol
you think people would ask details about ship instead of saying your a liar.... but they cant get past that part generaly.....



i must say, congratulations for the strength you have had to go about living a normal life (outside of internet/computer) with something like this happening to you.

Thanks, but there is a difference in me now, some residual issues.



on one hand, captain obvious says it is a horrible thing to be witness to such events that you have said you did not want to describe, and a horrible tragedy it is to experience such things.
on the other hand, however, is it a good thing that your mind has been opened? that you have this knowledge?

Im not so sure it a good thing.

I ask my self this:
Q. Who am i to tell these people
A. I am one of them is that not enough?

Q. Who am i to destroy their reality end their innocence?
A. who am i to withhold it from them?

(example 911: if gov knew attack was immenent do they tell you all so you stay scared forever?
but if you protect their peace of mind and dont tell they will later accuse you of holding out on important info that could of saved lives!)

just imagine if 1 guy said 2 weeks before 911 hey their is gonna be 4 attacks on us in one day by airline highjackers. people would have ignored him say hes crazy! say those highjackers would never get in USA or do that...... some would even feel pity and take terrorist side on issues the fools.....



it is a choice you make as to what you do with this knowledge... and a good thing it is to make it public for the world to see.

yes so i shared all of it ,
perhaps , perhaps not.....
I used to recently think david icke was wrong way to disclose this but ive come to agree with him more then disagree even tho i didnt like it, lol
so in conclusion :
who cares what they are saying on net about reptoids just as long as they are somewhat aware of it and talking about it somewhat openly.
But of course youll have the treehugging ,sympothisers who will defend the enemy within your land even as the enemy is storming their very beaches!



i have a really hard time believing that someoen would just make this up and go to all this (IMHO entirely too much trouble to be making it up) trouble being ridiculed on a forum that accepts and encourages radical thinking and ideas pertaining to the paranormal.

I totally agree, they at ATS ask for the secret info then ridicule the messanger when they get it !



do you think you were destined for this? do you think you are destined for something greater?

I dont know.....jury is still out.....



do you consider this to be a random happenstance in your lifetime of events?

yes, we witnessed their activities i belive thats why.



was there something intended for you/your friend and only you/your friend to learn? i wonder if you were not meant for something greater than humans could possibly imagine.

I think thats human nature to try to rationalize and religousize/mystisize amazing or tramatic events.
THOSE LIZARDS were not the teaching type. more like criminals.

I learned :
other beings exist!
other beings were dinosaur like
evil is not just a HUMAN trait!
I wasnt physically inferior in appearence to them , i was quite the opposite.



i believe we are all destined for something. what happens happens, adn what choices we make, we make and will end in leading to the path we were meant to take. i believe we all have lessons that we are here on earth to learn, good and bad. do you believe this applies to you?

jury is out with me on god as most see him to be,
1. if your creator was a lizard would you worship it as god?
if it created you from something PREEXISTING , you see how things would get complicated....
who is the "GOD" your creator or your creators --> creator?

now if you say the first creator i then say:
what if hes flesh like you, dies like you even.....
would he or them have a plan for your after life?
i seriouslly DOUBT IT, IMHO

but who knows if lizards exist then anything is possible now,,,,lololol
ive personally seen satans forces but never seen god, you see......
so what should i think?



this is about denying ignorance... opening your mind and facing things unknown to you or others. never forget it.

I WONT because of a few kind people like yourself !
And ATS for allowing me to tell you all about it.



posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 10:30 AM
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i have a really hard time believing that someoen would just make this up and go to all this (IMHO entirely too much trouble to be making it up) trouble being ridiculed on a forum that accepts and encourages radical thinking and ideas pertaining to the paranormal.

Exactly why in the name of god would someone go to all that trouble to make all that up for what reasons, money? doesnt look like hes making any off this, unless hes trying to become the next david icke but i doubt anyone would want to be famous for being the worlds biggest lunatic, although if he turns out to be right about everything he said then hed be a hero. Someone said attention, thats just messed up, why would anybody look for attention on the internet of all places and why would anyone want that kind of attention, all day people trying to prove him wrong. I cant talk for other people but i know id never make up anything like that unless i was sure i was gonna get rich off it but even then id have a hard time putting a load of bull**** up on the internet.


Q. Who am i to destroy their reality end their innocence?
A. who am i to withhold it from them?

Damn straight if all your saying turns out to be true then youll be praised for telling people the truth when it was pretty hard to see.


(example 911: if gov knew attack was immenent do they tell you all so you stay scared forever?
but if you protect their peace of mind and dont tell they will later accuse you of holding out on important info that could of saved lives!)

Which is better?
1.) Dont tell the people and wait till the plane hits for them to find out.
2.) Tell the people its coming so they can get the hell outta the building when it happens and save hundreds of people.

If all your sayings true then its pretty much the same thing here youve got 2 choices
1.) Shut the hell up and dont tell anyone and let them find out for themselves so when the time comes most people will just freak out and sh*t their pants and hide like little girls and then get wiped out
2.) Tell the people so when the time comes theyll know what to expect and will be ready for them.


ive personally seen satans forces but never seen god, you see......

What do you mean by that? Ive seen some evil s*** in my life but i couldnt really call it satanic but then again thats the only reason i can see for people doing this twisted s*** is satanic influence. Ive seen charred cats hanging with wires stuck through their necks and the position the cat was in i know it was alive when it was burnt and impaled, ive seen people set bums on the street on fire for no logical reason then again gods forces must have been at work there too seeing as seconds later 2 milkmen came outta nowhere and put the bums out, ive seen people piss in the holy water bowl in the church now if thats not satanic i dont know what is.

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posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 10:42 AM
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Hmmmm..I never thought of Reptilians as Satan's Army. They're living creatures just like you and I. Some of the more aggressive species probably don't have the same social codes though. Just look at the different behaviors of reptiles on Earth. Crocodiles are very aggressive, giving no one. not even their own kind the time of day iof they encrounch on their territory.



posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 11:00 AM
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I found an abduction report that sounds a little bit like your, the spaceship anyway doesnt mention any hooks dragging him up but it does sound alot like the spaceship you were talking about, it gets pretty sick towards the end when the guy says he got raped by an alien with blue acid puss coming out its ass.


This is a true story about the horrors I endured when I was abducted by extraterrestrials when I was twenty two years old. These creatures have no soul, the are evil, they care about no one but themselves. If you see a strange object in the sky coming at you, take my warning and run, it will save you alot of mental and emotional pain.

It was a cool summer night on Thursday, August 1987 while I walked along a road on the outskirts of Strasbourg. The moon was full and a gentle wind blew causing the high grass to sway along the road.

Around 1:25 A.M. There was a bright white light coming toward me down the road, a motocycle I thought, but as it came closer I noticed the light was much higher off the road than a motocycles would be. Then when it got about sixty meters to me it rose up in the air and flew above my head and stayed stationary. I could see that there was more than one light, there where three large white lights at the corners of this flying triangle shaped object.

As I gazed up in wonder at this aerocraft it began to slowly spin in 360 degrees, while it was doing this the center of the craft opened up. A strange yellowish-red light came from the opening and the craft had the light centered on me. A strange tingle and burning sensation came over my body, my hands and feet felt like thousands of needles were pricking them.

I started to rise up off the ground, As I rose closer to the opening I could make out details of the underside of the craft, it was a silverish-black reflective metal that I could see my reflection in. In my reflection I could see my eyes were wide open and my mouth slighting hanging open, but I could not feel that they was in this position because my body had become numb.

I was at the opening of the craft and my body began to spin slowly around and I was able to get a 360 degree view of the room I was being lifted in to. The room was circular with what looked like flat moniters with various images, schematics, and sometimes the whole screens had just text on them.

The opening I came through closed and I fell to the floor. I layed there for about five to ten mintues, my body was still numb and I could not move, although I did fall in a position that did allow me to see some of the monitors. On the monitors I saw images of drawings of the human body, images of human organs, and same images of the landscape on Earth.

Then I heard a slight wooshing sound and the sounds of light foot steps coming over to me. The creature came over to me and then walked around to see my face. The creature had brown slick skin, it's head was lightbulb shaped and it had large eyes with irises that were green and it's pupils black. The eyes were mostly white and looked like our human eyes, the irises & pupils were the same size as ours, but the shape of the eye in general was large.

It leaned down close to my face and squinted it's eyes. I heard inside my head a monotone voice that said "This one is still conscious." and another monotone voice also filled my head that said "Bring him in, it doesn't matter." At that the creature took a small eletronic device out of the sliverish-blue jumpsuit it was wearing and pointed it at me. It pressed some buttons and my body began to rise off the floor and I was put in flat on my back position and the creature then led me through the door it came through into a dimly lit room and then rested my body down on a table.

I heard the wooshing sound of the door close and the light footsteps of more of these creatures, the came over to the table and looked down on me, there was five of them, they all looked like the first one I encountered, except one was wearing a solid green metalic jumpsuit that had some kind of insignia on it that was shaped like a half circle with a triangle in the middle with letters of some langauge at the bottom of the insignia.

It leaned close to my face and I heard it speak inside my head, "I see you're a tought one, normally your kind goes unconscious once the lifter-beam hits them. How unfortunate for you, although it shall be most interesting for us." He motioned for the others to get to work, I saw out of the corner of my eye that he moved over into the corner of this square shaped room.

One of the creatures placed it's hand on my forehead and moved my head from side to side looking at my face. Then it lifted an instrument with a light at the end and shone the light in my eyes then put the instrument away. It then lifted a handheld device and started to press various buttons. After it had finished it another creature on the other side picked up a long slender metal instrument and inserted into in the flesh of my arm, I had felt it since my body was no longer numb. After it removed the instrument it handed it to another creature and it went over to the creature holding the handheld device. He took the instrument and did a type of scan of it and handed the metal instrument back.

Two of the creatures sat me up right and took off my shirt then laid me back down. The other two then slipped off my pants and underpants. I heard the creature in the corner say inside my head "What is about to happen to you is small compared to what we could do to your species peach skin." Peach skin probably was in reference to my Anglo skin color, and probably meant to be offensive, but I took no bother at his name calling.

A sharp instrument was inserted into my leg and I begain to move a little, but not enough to defend myself. I looked around and saw one of the creatures take it's jumpsuit off. Its body was slender and brown. The creature then stradled me on the table and rub up against my penis. This caused me to get an erection, after I had obtained an erection it then placed it's hand on my penis and guided it into the hole inbetween it's legs that was seeping some type of blue sticky liquid. Once the head of my penis touched the orifice it begain to burn, the my whole penis was inside it the pain increased, the green liquid that came out of the hole began to burn my penis and testacles. It moved up and down on my shaft and then I reached orgasm, the creature then moved off of me and put it's cloths back on. I looked down and saw my penis, testacles and surrounding skin with acid burns, the pain was unbearable. I could not scream out or pass out, whatever they injected me with early must have prevented from these things.

They turned me over and then spread my buttcheeks and then inserted various sharp instruments into my anus, one instrument they inserted in me travled through my intestines and into my stomach. Pain filled my instestines and stomach during this and my eyes rolled in the back of my head. After they finished with the anal tests the flipped me back over.

The creature that brought me in came through the door and then used that electronic device to lift me off the table and take me into another room, which was quite large and triangluar. In the center of the room was a big machine type device that looked like a large tanning bed with tubes and wires sticking out.

I was placed in this tanning bed type device and the lid was shut. A greenish-blue light scan down my body and to my amazement the pain started to go away and the damage done to my body began to heal. The lid opened and I looked down at my penis and testicles and there were back to normal.

Another of these creatures came in the room with my clothes and threw them at me and I heard it say inside my head "Get dressed." and I did as I was told. They then led me back to the circular room I had arrived in. Various images of humans were flashing across the monitors in the room and then part of the floor opened up again from the same spot I had came up through. We were close to the ground I could see grass about nine meters from the opening. The creature pushed me and I fell through the opening and hit the ground with a slight thud.

I rolled over on the ground and looked up. The triangluar shaped craft flashed it's three white lights at me and took off with great speed. I looked at my watch and it was now 3:50 A.M. and I was in the same spot I had been taken from.

I had noticed I was trembling and slowly got up off the ground and then went into town. I told no one, of all things I had forgotten to bring the gas can. I called a tow truck service and had my car brought to the gas station so I could fill it up.

I have kept my experience to myself until now. It is July 17, 2003 that I decided to write this down and release it to the internet community. Please take care on walking along the deserted roads at night.



posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 01:08 PM
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hello again,


first of all, you cannot deny the existence of a god and say that there is a 'satan'. one goes hand in hand with the other. either you believe in them both or not at all. there cannot be good without evil and no evil without good. if you have nothing to compare the other with, then there would be no good or evil.


so you believe it was random? you do not think that you were destined for this? you do not think you were meant to learn from it? you do not think an event such as this was some kind of a lesson for your soul?

QUOTE:jury is out with me on god as most see him to be,
1. if your creator was a lizard would you worship it as god?
if it created you from something PREEXISTING , you see how things would get complicated....
who is the "GOD" your creator or your creators --> creator?

now if you say the first creator i then say:
what if hes flesh like you, dies like you even.....
would he or them have a plan for your after life?
i seriouslly DOUBT IT, IMHO
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are you saying you think lizards created us?


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but my research is showing GOD lost this place in a war and he was flesh too not a spirit being as people imagine him.

so its reallly complex for me maybe 10 times as complex as thoughts of god normally are.
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what research? god lost what? please explain further...i am curious.


QUOTE: think thats human nature to try to rationalize and religousize/mystisize amazing or tramatic events.
ENDQUOTE

so you do not try to find meaning in such a life changing event? you do not try to move forward from such an event? you do not try to find answers in the things that happened to you?

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THOSE LIZARDS were not the teaching type. more like criminals.
ENDQUOTE

i did not mean that quite as literal as you have taken it. i meant it as was this experience meant to expand your mind in some way or cause you to learn something from it. not lizards teaching you things directly.

as for reptilian queen's insight, she is right.... they may have completely different cultural values and moral standards on what is right and wrong...if that is the case then it is a matter of teaching each species about cultural faux pas, so to speak. i realize that it is on a much bigger scale than teaching between earth cultures, but it is the same concept.

as for lizzardsamok's reference to 9/11, all you can control is what you do. you cannot control whether people believe you or not. you cannot control what people choose to do with the information you give them... it is only up to you to decide what to do with the information you have. after that, like i said, people can accept it or reject it, and you must respect that decision always. even if it is towards a destructive end, you can always be sure that you made the right decision. it is not up to you to necessarily 'make' people believe you, because you are not in control of them. all you can do is present them with what you have and suddenly you have left the decision up to them. for example, if you knew about 9/11 before it happened, the only decision and control you ahve is what you did with the information. if you went out and told 1000s of people, that is as far as your duty goes. they can then take that information and either call in sick and not go to work or go to work and reject the information you have given them. that is free will, and you cannot control that.

i am only saying all of this, because as evil as all of it sounds, there must be an equal and balancing good side to it. nothing even close to that has ever happened to me, so i wouldnt know what it is, but i hope you can find it.

have you ever considered that maybe they are afraid of us? in conflicts, i have found the thing i hate the most about others is usually the thing i hate most in myself, and vice versa. for example, if someone accused me of being untrustworthy, and if i feel i am not, then probably they do not trust themselves. i have lived my life this way and i feel it has made me a much more compassionate and loving person, as it puts everyone on the same level, no matter what social status or income, etc etc and allows me to see really what my insecurities are. so maybe they are as afraid of us as we are of them...



posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by fishbrain
Exactly why in the name of god would someone go to all that trouble to make all that up for what reasons, money? doesnt look like hes making any off this,

thanks for noticing .... thanks for your rational support guys it means ALOT!



A. who am i to withhold it from them?

Damn straight if all your saying turns out to be true then youll be praised for telling people the truth when it was pretty hard to see.

Praised, lol i doubt ill get any credit for anything,
but I WILL BE FREE OF MY OBLIGATION as a decent human being...
and soon with my promise to MAKE THEM READY.....



youve got 2 choices
1.) Shut the hell up and dont tell anyone and let them find out for themselves so when the time comes most people will just freak out and sh*t their pants and hide like little girls and then get wiped out

2.) Tell the people so when the time comes theyll know what to expect and will be ready for them.


RIGHT my personal answer was-> A. who am i not to tell them...!
I feel obligated to tell all of you now...
Notice i tell you all i dont want to harm all reptoids or any other being how ever i "WARN YOU" TO "KILL AT FIRST SITE" THOSE WHO BEAR THE "FLYING SERPENT LOGO"! lest you become wishing you were dead or dead yourself!
this is not a game or an oppinion its a reality , HEED IT.

i thought it would be easier later down the road to tell others when they started to find out, not so..... i waited 10 freakin years to get this far and its only been a month.... so here i am,,,, hear me!


ive personally seen satans forces but never seen god, you see......
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What do you mean by that? .

IT would take hours to explain reasonably but lemme take a shot,

when i saw these lizards first oppinion was they were ANIMALS not aliens,
then the clothes and the logo and tech dawned on me and my oppinion was aliens but appearently a decendent being from a dinosaur or reptile found on earth, so my next oppinion was they were from here or from this galaxy at least at on point.. still just an asssumption....
IT wasnt till i started to educate myself like a madman about every story , tale, myth, religion and account of reptoids or human origin,

I WAS SURPRISED to find these two were always together in some way,
for example: christianity:
EDEN mans creation,
SERPENT / DRAGON BEING intelligent humanoid speaks and decieves EVE



posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by fishbrain
the spaceship anyway doesnt mention any hooks dragging him up but it does sound alot like the spaceship you were talking about,


I never said I was dragged up by hooks!
how did you ever come to that interpetation, lol
LIGHT BEAM lifts you UP
the TENTACLE was used on COW ONLY it was a CUTTING TOOL.
We both freaked out bad when the beam hit us cause we saw what the tentacle just did to cow and thought it was going to use it on us at first!
you can just imagine.....



it gets pretty sick towards the end when the guy says he got raped by an alien with blue acid puss coming out its ass.


yes , he has more courage than I in that respect but i have given hints towards that end.
But if people wont belive what ive written so far they wouldnt belive that part and certainlly WOULDNT DESERVE that info.!



I was abducted by extraterrestrials when I was twenty two years old.
I WAS 21 or 22

These creatures have no soul, the are evil, they care about no one but themselves.
IVE SAID THAT

If you see a strange object in the sky coming at you, take my warning and run, it will save you alot of mental and emotional pain.
IVE SAID THAT

A strange tingle and burning sensation came over my body, my hands and feet felt like thousands of needles were pricking them.
IVE SAID THAT

I started to rise up off the ground, As I rose closer to the opening I could make out details of the underside of the craft, it was a silverish-black reflective metal that I could see my reflection in.
IVE SAID THAT

The room was circular with what looked like flat moniters with various images, schematics, and sometimes the whole screens had just text on them.
IVE SAID THAT

The opening I came through closed and I fell to the floor.
I always wondered how we got in the UFO we passed out half way up to it.

On the monitors I saw images of drawings of the human body, images of human organs, and same images of the landscape on Earth.
IVE SAID THAT

The creature had brown slick skin, it's head was lightbulb shaped and it had large eyes with irises that were green and it's pupils black.
IVE SAID THAT

dimly lit room and then rested my body down on a table.
IVE SAID THAT

one was wearing a solid green metalic jumpsuit that had some kind of insignia on it that was shaped like a half circle with a triangle in the middle with letters of some langauge at the bottom of the insignia.
IVE SAID similar to THAT the ones i saw had white jumpsuits and different insignia but had a triangle.
TIP:IMHO
triangles facing down = BAD
triangles facing up = not as BAD
no triangles = GOOD


"I looked around and saw one of the creatures take it's jumpsuit off. Its body was slender and brown. The creature then stradled me on the table and rub up against my penis. This caused me to get an erection,
I BELIVE THIS HAPPENED TO HIM I MEAN I REALLY BELIVE IT!
Imagine the ridicule about this kind of thing......
IVE never had the courage yet to SAY THAT

"Another of these creatures came in the room with my clothes and threw them at me and I heard it say inside my head "Get dressed." The creature pushed me and I fell through the opening and hit the ground with a slight thud."------------------------------
And people around here want to be compassionate for ET feelings,
yet chastise and give no compassion to the RAPE VICTUM or the HUMAN!
now imagine you post this and get some people ask you were you special were you picked? who freakin cares i say.

HELL some even think its some kind of religous or mystical experience,
omg they are so ignorant of what they say.
and now you understand why i GET SO PISSED AT YOU PEOPLE!!!!!!!
not you fishbrain.

I have kept my experience to myself until now. It is July 17, 2003 that I decided to write this down and release it to the internet community. Please take care on walking along the deserted roads at night.
IVE SAID THAT


THIS WAS BEFORE ME. WOW it sounds like he copied some of what i wrote even its so simular to me, wow great find, maybe i can speak third person now use his happenings to explain things better.
i used the same term pins and needles!

now do you belive me more?

[edit on 3-3-2005 by lizzardsamok]



posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by evanostrand
first of all, you cannot deny the existence of a god and say that there is a 'satan'. one goes hand in hand with the other. either you believe in them both or not at all. there cannot be good without evil and no evil without good. if you have nothing to compare the other with, then there would be no good or evil .


Ah but did you ever think what if they were 2 halfs of same thing same race?
or even propaganda?
history is written by the WINNERS not the losers of war.
I feel the TRUTH about GOD lies in the knowledge of other cultures not from earth, earths history is tainted at best , IMHO


so you believe it was random? you do not think that you were destined for this? you do not think you were meant to learn from it? you do not think an event such as this was some kind of a lesson for your soul?

random =yes
did i learn from it = yes
lesson = all of life is a lesson


QUOTE:jury is out with me on god as most see him to be,
1. if your creator was a lizard would you worship it as god?
if it created you from something PREEXISTING , you see how things would get complicated....
who is the "GOD" your creator or your creators --> creator?

now if you say the first creator i then say:
what if hes flesh like you, dies like you even.....
would he or them have a plan for your after life?
i seriouslly DOUBT IT, IMHO



are you saying you think lizards created us?

NOT QUITE
maybe some humans yes but not all maybe not at all
im mearly trying to get your thinking out of the box.

THIS IS WHAT IM RESEARCHING NOW
start by answering my question it will show you things are not BLACK or WHITE right or wrong there is a complxity far beyond that.

who is YOUR "GOD" your creator or , your creators , creator?

QUOTE
but my research is showing GOD lost this place in a war and he was flesh too not a spirit being as people imagine him.



what research? god lost what? please explain further...i am curious.

well i kinda threw in alot at once there, im sorry, ill explain a little.
I wrote a big peice on this subject here middle of page:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

HOPI indian creation story = GOD lost TERRA/EARTH in a war TWICE !

once with ARY-AN DINOSAUR GODS second with a created being before makind called CHILDREN OF THE REPTILE a ARY-AN HYBRID accourding to them we humans are half WOLF GOD , half pre-existing APE like creature
the wolf god mixed his blood(DNA) with a being already here to do mining and gardening work.
NOTE: ANUUNAKI say same thing so does VEDIC TEXTS and others!

now if you say the first creator i then say:
what if hes flesh like you, dies like you even.....
would he or them have a plan for your after life?

"he was flesh too not a spirit being as people imagine him"

GEN 6:3 And the LORD(actually ELOHIM) said my spirit shall not always strive with man, for that HE IS ALSO FLESH!

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

ELohim means GODS not god IM or UM is plural form!
monotheism is a joke right from genesis itself

GODS REAL NAME is GODS, lol the gods is what they meant.
the one god they refer to is EL and his angels!
or MAIN ET in charge and his workers.
EL is mentioned all over the world in texts!
notice all angels of god end in EL,
this is a TITLE = OF EL
so the angel "Michael" is Micha of EL
and raphael is RAPHA of EL .

you starting to catch on?
Now your a little more educated on this subject so look back at the devils name does it end in EL?
READ this to start....
www.ancienttexts.org...

in almost every story no matter what religion or culture you choose.:

there was a rebelion of beings made before us,
there was 3 creation beings 1 God and 2 lesser Gods,
there was chaos as we were created and born into chaos,
there was other living beings made before us,
there was serpent being made before us,
there was a serpent being involved in or at the creation of man,
the Human was made to ease the labor of the gods,
there was a world wide flood,

the simularities become quite appearent and striking after a while....

it amazes me what churches choose to look over........



so you do not try to find meaning in such a life changing event?

meaning not as you might interpret it just answers


you do not try to move forward from such an event?

I am moving foward by dealing with it then sharing the important info to help others.
its hard to ignore and deny something like this for 10 years then go back to pretending it didnt happen , its really hard living in a society who doesnt know yet about anything frankly, no one to talk with you see, so alone i feel sometimes.



you do not try to find answers in the things that happened to you?

Ive spent 8 years getting answers so YES
ive also gotten most of those questions answered BTW



have you ever considered that maybe they are afraid of us? in conflicts, i have found the thing i hate the most about others is usually the thing i hate most in myself, and vice versa. . so maybe they are as afraid of us as we are of them...


Ive more than considered it i stated it in my story itself sir
i mentioned multiple times that the scientist one was afraid either of me or the fact i was awake and staring at it i dont know, but i know it was AFRAID!
the soldier was surprised but fear look wasnt as strong more surprise and getting ready for a fight look.

I learned this if you ever see a scientist and soldier lizard being,
KEEP your eyes on the scientist not the soldier hes got the devices to overcome you, take him out first!
I made the mistake of dealing with the soldier, i should have been more hostile towards them it would have made a world of difference!
thats my biggest REGRET!



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posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 05:48 PM
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If you can't flood them with facts,
baffel them with bs.

From Lizard abduction to God Almighty, you sure have a solid grip on life.

The reason I've followed this is because I am totally amazed about the lunacy with which you write.

You still have PRODUCED NOTHING! How about something???

Except one wild imagination.

Answer my question, mister "it did happen", how come your original story did not say you woke up TWICE?
If that was your account, now you are changing it.

Awaiting.
Tuatara



posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by Tuatara
If you can't flood them with facts,
baffel them with bs.

old ancient facts most people will be familar with is why im going to bible im not even religous or christian myself untill i find my answers,FYI
these are old written facts told since long ago.
for example :
do you disagree with my connections and facts stated by you as BS:


in almost every story no matter what religion or culture you choose.:

there was a rebelion of beings made before us,
there was 3 creation beings 1 God and 2 lesser Gods,
there was chaos as we were created and born into chaos,
there was other living beings made before us,
there was serpent being made before us,
there was a serpent being involved in or at the creation of man,
the Human was made to ease the labor of the gods,
there was a world wide flood,

what other cultures, religions or myths have you studied PAL?
yet you call it all BS without any knowledge !
thats the epitomy of IGNORANCE.



From Lizard abduction to God Almighty, you sure have a solid grip on life.
The reason I've followed this is because I am totally amazed about the lunacy with which you write.
You still have PRODUCED NOTHING! How about something???
Except one wild imagination.

MY ,Youre a insulting individual !!!!!!!!!
you cant even understand what ive written, and your very rude!
and just what exactly am i supposed to produce for you?



Answer my question, mister "it did happen", how come your original story did not say you woke up TWICE?
If that was your account, now you are changing it.

so demanding you are!
i did say there was another part to the story from the start i said thats all i will PUBLICY SHARE with you, ESPECIALLY someone with attitude and disrespect like YOU!
Tuatara

And be on alert my story will be probably be changed more before im done, if i can remember anything new ill add that,
if i feel i will choose to release other info i will add that also,
so you have at least 2 more times of "Accusasions" ! OH BOY, cant wait!


[edit on 3-3-2005 by lizzardsamok]



posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 07:34 PM
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All quotes originally posted by LIZZARDSAMOK
keep them but dont distribute or edit them. much more ? like what? and why?

Much more than Jpegs! Maybe $20 + shipping? I have started to collect weird props and paper, albeit mostly movie-related stuff.


pictures paper was 11x14.
I drew all those on one peice of paper front and back.
why does it matter the size? what will you do with them?


Well, I have lots of US "Lobby Cards" for example- they are 11x14 too. I plan to frame a selection of them, and would gladly display your drawing(s) as well. The piece being "double sided" is quite a turnoff though.


why woudnt you want better ones?


I think the cow picture illustrates your story perfectly:
"cow looked humorous as its position was like you see when they save a cow or horse from a helicopter when they put that band around the animal to pull it up and gravity makes the ass end go towards ground whille head goes up and the front legs hang in air in front of itself almost standing position (cow is mostly silent, but one quik moo) " .

And your lizards remind me of Jub Jub! They seem to be somewhat disillusioned and of low spirit ...




did you see the other ones with tentacle close up?


Yes, but they didn't work for me.


I am making better ones for investagators at thier request, would you want those?


Perhaps, but not for investigational purposes-

I'll buy your pictures, but not the story-

When I pointed out conflicting statements yesterday, your reply was "Good job, you found a typo" .
Apart from that, the "typo" didn't seem to bother you.

Also, the ripped cow was lying not far from the party house. Your friends were skeptic, but didn't want to see a quite convincing piece of evidence? And you did not urge them to have a looksy?
One week later then, your friend's neighbourhood, and first of all the Kissimee Sheriff "had some questions for you" ...
but they let up when the sister refused to disclose your phone number ?

Your site says: "I will NOW gladly help to gather proof of cows death from famers and sheriff."

What are you waiting for? Bring us proof of the 1995 Kissimee cow mutilation, substantiate your story!





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posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by popular mechanics
Much more than Jpegs! Maybe $20 + shipping? I have started to collect weird props and paper, albeit mostly movie-related stuff.

lol, ok



Well, I have lots of US "Lobby Cards" for example- they are 11x14 too. I plan to frame a selection of them, and would gladly display your drawing(s) as well. The piece being "double sided" is quite a turnoff though.

the head is on the back of the 2 lizard pic too

I could draw more just like it but seperate.



I think the cow picture illustrates your story perfectly:
"cow looked humorous as its position was like you see when they save a cow or horse from a helicopter when they put that band around the animal to pull it up and gravity makes the ass end go towards ground whille head goes up and the front legs hang in air in front of itself almost standing position (cow is mostly silent, but one quik moo) " .

Yes thats what it looked like, real odd, and funny we laughed at first in disbelife ourselves then....we stopped laughing when the cow started SCREAMING VIOLENTLY IN AGONY.



And your lizards remind me of Jub Jub! They seem to be somewhat disillusioned and of low spirit ...

LOLOLOLOLOLOL jub jub needs to be punished LOL



Yes, but they didn't work for me.
----> chuckels to himself



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