My Reptilian Abduction

My Reptilian Abduction thread was closed due to denying ignorance i will post a fresh version and try to avoid the mistakes of last thread.

Here is my story:
www.flyingserpents.co.nr...
www.geocities.com...

Please do not hide an insult in your questions it will get this thread closed.
My pupose is to find others like me and compare notes, as well as to inform people of this event and the dangers it represents, I AM NOT here to prove anything to anybody but if asked nicely i will try to do so...

How long are you intending to hold this lizzardsamok?Im asking you as a friend,please,can we let go of this subject for a while?Let it cool off.We all here at ATS see you feeling towards this.I know howmuch whatever happend to you effected you.I can see by your very determination to keep this up.But all this wont work.

If you want to get your story out to public and move people in believing,then do it in person.Get a UFO specialist,explain to he/she your encounter.The are also many other ways.There are some here who believe your story but the way your going about this may hold your story less and less of a reliable source to others belief.Posting this on a forum will not get anywhere.

I believe we all have to stand up for what we believe in.But getting you belief through a screen will not get anywhere.Well atleast not much.

Let it cool off.

....I thought Reptillians were no more credible then Santa Clause.....

[edit on 02/03/05 by Grey Fox]

Originally posted by Grey Fox
....I thought Reptillians were no more credible then Santa Clause.....

[edit on 02/03/05 by Grey Fox]

perhaps youll re-evaluate that belife grey fox , perhaps not.

black steel thanks ive been trying to do that ive submitted to mufon and the like but await a real person but even that looks like it wont happen

so what if this place and this thread is all i have to get and give info?
how sad but appearently how true......

and for it to be stopped from insults is sadder even still.....
maybe people are right, maybe we should continue letting people be abducted and do nothing about it, lets not even discuss it and pretend it doesnt happen !
we could even ridicule others when they say anything about it so the others wont be aware either.....
but we will let them have a place to be ridiculed publicly.....

GENIUS......

the sadest part of being abducted is thier is no gov number to call,
no private organization waiting to help you,
no doctor willing to belive you except to put you in a mental institution!
then the police , hah, well no luck im sure, but im not going....
then mufon might belive you but just files it.
then the internet were disbelivers scoff you then punish you for getting angry!
Im so done with the protocol here on EARTH towards this whole subject, most of them are still scoffing at the craft let alone the aliens themselves or their purpose with us....
the only ones who know and do anything is the gov but abductions still happen.......

so what advice do you have for me now sir?
do you see my point better?
wouldnt any decent human being try to tell the others and warn them?
wouldnt you want to take action since no one else is?

[edit on 5-2-2005 by lizzardsamok]

Originally posted by lizzardsamok
so what if this place and this thread is all i have to get and give info?
how sad but appearently how true......

Unfortunately, this seems to be "par for the course." I have opened dialogue with more than a couple persons who seem to have repeatedly captured unidentifiable aerial anomolies on camera or video (in some instances some very convincing cases) who have also had the same experience, i.e., a general lack of response from members and/or organization within the UFO community.

I revert back to my suggestion that everyone who witnesses something report it to NUFORC -- they seem pretty faithful in posting sincere reports of all origins.

While I have exchanged e-mails with the local MUFON point of contact, IMHO they seem to do a relatively poor job of disseminating reported incidents to the public.

Reading your story....

Are you now or were you at the time on psychiatric drugs or seeing a psychiatrist? Have you been diagnosed with any psychological/psychiatric disorders, or have you infact been to see mental health professionals and been found to not have anything like that? This is a fair question I think, not intended to insult.

They showed emotions like us. Same facial expressions

Reptiles don't have fleshy lips like humans and mammals, infact that don't have the sort of facial musculature to make emotive expressions.

But I peeked at the screen a second to long and it sniffed the air then turned its head to me.( I speculate that it smelled me being awake somehow).

This seems rather bizzare and biologically unlikely, it seems more like a scene out of a movie really, like something a person's mind would make up rather than something that would happen.

His expression towards me was not of fear like the other but of contempt, and agreesiveness as we approached each other

As do most of these sorts of descriptions, especially when keeping in mind that reptiles can't make facial exressions.

we looked over the fence where the cow was and low and behold a dead cow.

Is there any verification of this physical evidence?

And once they said "ok we belive you" they , my own friends, said "your bringing us down this scares us lets talk about something else"......

What drugs were being taken at this party? Forgive my bluntness, but lets be honest, psyhcadellic drugs won't make dead cows or make you think you were abducted and what not, but were or were not drugs being consumed at this party? The further reaction of your friends very much convinces me that something was being taken, they react like you guys were trying to 'bug them out' or something with some made up story, rather than telling them something that really happened.. Notice, I am not saying thats the case, I am saying that their reaction is strange, If my freinds came back with those events, I wouldn't say 'you guys are bumming me' and I don;t think anyone else, not on drugs, would, regardless of the veracity of the events.

at the very least If I told my parents i would be in for some psychiatry or theropy wether i needed it or

How old were you at the time of the events?

they found a dead muttalated cow that night you were right

Interesting. Do you have any verification of that evidence that can be presented here?

mammals are new to this planet!

Mammals co-existed with the dinosaurs and the 'reptillian' ancestors of mammals, synapsids, were around before the dinosaurs.

I find your story interesting and would like to see your responses.

Originally posted by sdrumrunner

Originally posted by lizzardsamok
so what if this place and this thread is all i have to get and give info?
how sad but appearently how true......

Unfortunately, this seems to be "par for the course." I have opened dialogue with more than a couple persons who seem to have repeatedly captured unidentifiable aerial anomolies on camera or video (in some instances some very convincing cases) who have also had the same experience, i.e., a general lack of response from members and/or organization within the UFO community.

I revert back to my suggestion that everyone who witnesses something report it to NUFORC -- they seem pretty faithful in posting sincere reports of all origins.

While I have exchanged e-mails with the local MUFON point of contact, IMHO they seem to do a relatively poor job of disseminating reported incidents to the public.

nuforc, this was their email in response.

Originally posted by Nygdan
Reading your story....

Are you now or were you at the time on psychiatric drugs or seeing a psychiatrist?

NO and NO

Have you been diagnosed with any psychological/psychiatric disorders, or have you infact been to see mental health professionals and been found to not have anything like that?

NO

This is a fair question I think, not intended to insult.

They showed emotions like us. Same facial expressions

Reptiles don't have fleshy lips like humans and mammals, infact that don't have the sort of facial musculature to make emotive expressions.

well these did

But I peeked at the screen a second to long and it sniffed the air then turned its head to me.( I speculate that it smelled me being awake somehow).

This seems rather bizzare and biologically unlikely, it seems more like a scene out of a movie really, like something a person's mind would make up rather than something that would happen.

If you notice every thing in brackets was my own pure speculation.
i purposelly kept that seperate from what actualy transpired as not to taint the facts.

His expression towards me was not of fear like the other but of contempt, and agreesiveness as we approached each other

As do most of these sorts of descriptions, especially when keeping in mind that reptiles can't make facial exressions.

well these did

we looked over the fence where the cow was and low and behold a dead cow.

Is there any verification of this physical evidence?

yes a few freinds saw it, and the farmer called police about it.
they wanted to question me but i refused to even talk to them.

And once they said "ok we belive you" they , my own friends, said "your bringing us down this scares us lets talk about something else"......

What drugs were being taken at this party?

party didnt really start yet it was early.

Forgive my bluntness, but lets be honest, psyhcadellic drugs won't make dead cows or make you think you were abducted and what not, but were or were not drugs being consumed at this party?

just alchohol later but not at that time

The further reaction of your friends very much convinces me that something was being taken, they react like you guys were trying to 'bug them out' or something with some made up story, rather than telling them something that really happened.. Notice, I am not saying thats the case, I am saying that their reaction is strange,

no typical reaction look at respones i get...

If my freinds came back with those events, I wouldn't say 'you guys are bumming me' and I don;t think anyone else, not on drugs, would, regardless of the veracity of the events.

i incorrectlly belived that as well, but thats what happened. sad.

at the very least If I told my parents i would be in for some psychiatry or theropy wether i needed it or

How old were you at the time of the events?

21

they found a dead muttalated cow that night you were right

Interesting. Do you have any verification of that evidence that can be presented here?

no im trying to get in touch with these friends,
weve moved and lost contact after 10 years....

mammals are new to this planet!

Mammals co-existed with the dinosaurs and the 'reptillian' ancestors of mammals, synapsids, were around before the dinosaurs.
.........

I find your story interesting and would like to see your responses.

And as to your numerous drug references what drug do you know of makes people see all these things for one,
and multiple people at same time,
then leaving a dead mutilated cow of which science has no explination!

If your looking for belivability research all the many details ive given...
i await your responce....



[edit on 5-2-2005 by lizzardsamok]

I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt, weird experience.

thanks,
drfunk

Originally posted by drfunk
I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt, weird experience.

thanks,
drfunk

thank you sir,
I made 1 person aware,yeah

here is more images i drew of suacer we saw....

UNDERSIDE VIEW
www.geocities.com...

FRONT VIEW
www.geocities.com...

TENTACLE VIEW
www.geocities.com...

ask me for details or things i can draw to show you....
perhaps that will help....





[edit on 5-2-2005 by lizzardsamok]

Since you have not been examined by a psychologist or other mental health professional, do you feel that you perhaps should? Perhaps visiting a social worker who can give you at least a prelimiarny evaluation for free or somesuch?

Originally posted by lizzardsamok
well these did

Fair enough

If you notice every thing in brackets was my own pure speculation.
i purposelly kept that seperate from what actualy transpired as not to taint the facts.

Yes, but I don't think that the changes anything.

And as to your numerous drug references what drug do you know of makes people see all these things for one,

I did state that no drug is going to result in some 'hallucination' that would be like what you are saying. The reaction of hte people at the party seemed like it was only explainable if it was 'bringing down' a get together invovling drugs.

I noticed above that the UFO group you sent the report to thought that the drawing was by 'David Chace'. Have you been able to get his drawing and find out about his experience?This site notes:

DAVID CHACE - Seattle artist. Author: A Guide to Alien Beings. Draws aliens as reported by experiencers.

If there is a strong similiarity, perhaps his sources would be people to contact.
In fact this forum posting indicates he's rather active and might be a good place to contact him.

You mentioned that the reptilians were tellurian, from earth, how did you know this, especially since they have characteristics that no reptiles on earth have?

Originally posted by Nygdan
Since you have not been examined by a psychologist or other mental health professional, do you feel that you perhaps should? Perhaps visiting a social worker who can give you at least a prelimiarny evaluation for free or somesuch?
Im not crazy so no i wouldnt tell them this.

Originally posted by lizzardsamok
well these did

Fair enough

If you notice every thing in brackets was my own pure speculation.
i purposelly kept that seperate from what actualy transpired as not to taint the facts.

Yes, but I don't think that the changes anything.
? what do you mean by that?

And as to your numerous drug references what drug do you know of makes people see all these things for one,

I did state that no drug is going to result in some 'hallucination' that would be like what you are saying. The reaction of hte people at the party seemed like it was only explainable if it was 'bringing down' a get together invovling drugs.

that was their words not mine and its what they said belive me i was upset at that responce and we both left!

I noticed above that the UFO group you sent the report to thought that the drawing was by 'David Chace'. Have you been able to get his drawing and find out about his experience?

no, ill try him but the pic is wrong for what i saw.

This site notes:

DAVID CHACE - Seattle artist. Author: A Guide to Alien Beings. Draws aliens as reported by experiencers.

If there is a strong similiarity, perhaps his sources would be people to contact.
In fact this forum posting indicates he's rather active and might be a good place to contact him.

You mentioned that the reptilians were tellurian, from earth, how did you know this, especially since they have characteristics that no reptiles on earth have?

I felt they were from earth as they were reptiles and what i see outside my house daily soo.......i made that logical assumtion however that is also in brackets as speculation...

They didnt communicate with us they had no desire to.

and as for the pictures chase drew he never saw them he guessed....

"This is all assumption and speculation, and carries no more
weight than that of subjective plausibility."
David W. Chace

Im appearently the only one who knows what they really look like firsthand and to tell others but most mock me for having dissimular images from that of a guy who guessed......

you guys dont know how rare and hard to come by this info is,
maybe one day you will....
Ive just started to reaslise it myself how special my case is.

[edit on 5-2-2005 by lizzardsamok]

izzardsamok,
Hey, don't let those that debunk what you have shared to bring you down... There are things in this world, or out of this world that no one will accept.

Hi lizzardsamok,
"Icke=disinfo"
What is it in your experience that conflicts with what David Icke?

Originally posted by Umbrax
Hi lizzardsamok,
"Icke=disinfo"
What is it in your experience that conflicts with what David Icke?

David ickes ideas of human reptiles shapeshifting and all, i didnt see any of that myself and i think he is disinfo IMO.

I disagree with points of his that im aware of but i dont research his ideas i generally stay away and disagree. for example:

1. he claims O- blooded people are hybrids- im O- blooded and not a hybrid but i am old scotish family royalty, we had many castles in scotland and ireland. I belive we O- 's are true PURE BLOODs in every sence IMHO, but im biased,lol
2.he claims english royalty is reptile blooded- i have no clue if they are nor do i care.
3.he claims they look like humans but they have rep eyes-no they are lizards.
4.he claims they shape shift- i never saw that
5.he also tends to lean towards conspiricy, -i mearly wish to make people aware they exist and they are not nice, to put it simply, without disclosing to many personal details.

thats all i know of icke and i disagree with it all.
I belive his claims taint my story with these ideals by people whove heard his ideals, which is nothing like my story you see.....

I wish to make people aware for a few reasons but this one most:
when i met a military guy who opened up to me after i told him my experience, at end of our conversasion i asked what could i do to help ?

he said "make the people aware and ready, just make them ready that will help us"

so here i am, now what would you good people going to do about it?
thats my question to you all....

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Thanks" jessemole"
its people like you who keep me hanging in there with a little hope towards this dire situation i find myself in.
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Here is more detailed images of reptoid aircraft we saw.
www.geocities.com...

[edit on 6-2-2005 by lizzardsamok]

If they are not nice why didn't kill you to, 'they' must have some compassion for intelligent beings. Unless you are an experement then I would be scared...

Originally posted by Th0r
If they are not nice why didn't kill you to, 'they' must have some compassion for intelligent beings. Unless you are an experement then I would be scared...

TRUST ME they are not nice thats all i will say about it,
read other reptoid abduction cases, whats mine missing?
thats why they are not nice!

Letting me live i hope to make their mistake!
Telling all of you what happened is a step towards that end....

[edit on 6-2-2005 by lizzardsamok]

1. he claims O- blooded people are hybrids- im O- blooded and not a hybrid but i am old scotish family royalty, we had many castles in scotland and ireland. I belive we O- 's are true PURE BLOODs in every sence IMHO, but im biased,lol

Lizzardsamok, perhaps you should consider researching Stewart Swerdlows material (www.stewartswerdlow.com). You could even contact him, give him your story - and provide him with some information about your "scottish royalty" bloodline, I´m sure he will find your story quite interesting.

I don´t mean to frighten you, but you *could maybe* be more involved in this than you are aware of. My advice is that you check out what he says first and foremost. I know you don´t like what Icke says but... well Stewart has been involved in some of the things that Icke speak of.

Good luck, whether you choose to investigate this deeper or not.

For the same reason you are denying Icke claim of "shape shifting" reptillians, which is you did not see it. We can deny your claim of "saurian tailed humanoid beings" After all, the usually evolutionary role of tail is to stabalize the weight of creature who is not walking upright. As the creature begins to walk upright, their tail recedes. However, perhaps one of the reasons the tail is present is as a self-defence or attacking measure. As you mention it was used for that purpose.

However, that alone is not reason enough to deny your claims. Yet, take note, it's not reason enough for you deny Icke's claim either. You might have encountered an extraterrestrial saurian race and Icke and the witnesses he refers to, may have encountered the underground serpent race.

Now, I am still going to ask you the same question as before. That is, why did you look back at your unconscious friend and call for him, at the moment the lizard guard was approaching you and was probably some 2 feet away from you. You were geared up for fighting - the fight response - but what gave at that point? Are you actually going to answer this question this time?

[edit on 6-2-2005 by Indigo_Child]

Just a note, I think it'd be best to delete the larger portionsof the quoted text, especially since you are responding in general.

Originally posted by lizzardsamok
Im not crazy so no i wouldnt tell them this.

If you are not crazy, then the rational thing to do would be to see a professional to confirm it. The irrational, 'crazy' thing to do would be to not see a professional about it.

Originally posted by lizzardsamok
I felt they were from earth as they were reptiles and what i see outside my house daily soo.......i made that logical assumtion however that is also in brackets as speculation...

I'd have to say that, and lets just hypothetically accept everything as having occured as described, that these things are most certainly not terrestrial, becuase they have characteristics that are completely alien to any reptiles on earth, even outside of high intelligence.

What Temperature was it in the ship also? I don't recall reading if it was very warm or very cool.

as for the pictures chase drew he never saw them he guessed

Hmm, becuase it at least says that he based his drawings on what he was told about them from people claiming to be abducted, and if there is such a similiarity between your drawings and his, such that the UFO group thought your drawing was one of his actual drawings, then that 'correspondence' would be interesting.

but most mock me for having dissimular images from that of a guy who guessed

They stated you had the exact same image.

Ive just started to reaslise it myself how special my case is.

Have you contacted any of the people who were abducted by reptilians that Chace interviewed in order to get his drawings?

they are not nice thats all i will say about it,
read other reptoid abduction cases, whats mine missing?

Why do you think that they didn't do to you what they did to others?

[edit on 6-2-2005 by Nygdan]