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I'm calling it now... there was no Russian collusion.

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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 06:39 AM
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a reply to: Hazardous1408


Glad that's been cleared up , perhaps now we can get on with the important business of starting WW3.
Hate it when things get delayed.




posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 06:46 AM
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a reply to: Hazardous1408

So you're saying there's still a chance right?



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 06:47 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Based on the assessment from a private organization CrowdStrike. What evidence is there Russia hacked DNC?



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:22 AM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Based on the assessment from a private organization CrowdStrike. What evidence is there Russia hacked DNC?


The fact that it damaged the candidate Vladimir Putin did not want to have to deal with is a clue. Besides, all the Russian trolls here keep denying it.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:26 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Based on the assessment from a private organization CrowdStrike. What evidence is there Russia hacked DNC?


The fact that it damaged the candidate Vladimir Putin did not want to have to deal with is a clue. Besides, all the Russian trolls here keep denying it.

What evidence do we have of Russian hacking that was found by government investigation of the servers?
What evidence do we have that Russia gave any info to wikileaks?
What evidence do we have of Trump doing anything wrong working with Russia?



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:30 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Hillary was Putin's candidate, not Trump.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:33 AM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: DJW001

Hillary was Putin's candidate, not Trump.


Please explain. Trump surrounded himself with people like Paul Manafort, who was a pro Russia propagandist in Ukraine. Trump made lifting the sanctions on Russia a campaign plank. All the Russian media, both official and covertly controlled, favored Trump. Where did you get the impression Putin favored Clinton? This is not a rhetorical question.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:37 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04


What evidence do we have of Russian hacking that was found by government investigation of the servers?


The intelligence services have affirmed the claim as fact. They have reasons for not declassifying their evidence.


What evidence do we have that Russia gave any info to wikileaks?


Have you ever wondered why all of the American documents on WikiLeaks make America look bad, but there are never Russian documents that make Russia look bad?


What evidence do we have of Trump doing anything wrong working with Russia?


Thank you for admitting that Trump has been "working with Russia." That is exactly the collusion that is being investigated.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:41 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

The intelligence services saying something is true is not evidence.

The 'American' documents on wikileaks make America look bad because the are American documents. Wikileaks are not in the business of exposing things that are lawful and above board.

There is no investigation into Trump campaign members working with Russia. "Working with" and collusion to influence an election are not the same. As of right now there is no evidence of any Trump campaign member colluding with Russia to influence the election.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:44 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth


The 'American' documents on wikileaks make America look bad because the are American documents. Wikileaks are not in the business of exposing things that are lawful and above board.


How much do they pay you to make fatuous statements like this? Oh, and even the Republicans making statements about the election say that it is clear Russia was trying to influence the election; the investigation is to see how widespread the efforts were and whether they involve active, illegal espionage.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:47 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001


The intelligence services have affirmed the claim as fact. They have reasons for not declassifying their evidence.

Based on a non government agency hired by the DNC. The DNC never turned over the servers. No government investigation of the servers was ever conducted. FACT.



Have you ever wondered why all of the American documents on WikiLeaks make America look bad, but there are never Russian documents that make Russia look bad?

So every leak about America comes from Russia? That's your answer? I will take that to mean once again there is NO EVIDENCE.



Thank you for admitting that Trump has been "working with Russia." That is exactly the collusion that is being investigated.

Of course he is. That's his job. It's hilarious that you think it's wrong for the US government to work with Russia. It's like you claiming someone is a scammer when all the evidence is they run a legitimate business. I ask you what evidence do you have of any money they made coming from scams, and you reply back thanks for admitting they made money, and claim it's proof they are a scammer.
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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:48 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: UKTruth


The 'American' documents on wikileaks make America look bad because the are American documents. Wikileaks are not in the business of exposing things that are lawful and above board.


How much do they pay you to make fatuous statements like this? Oh, and even the Republicans making statements about the election say that it is clear Russia was trying to influence the election; the investigation is to see how widespread the efforts were and whether they involve active, illegal espionage.


It's perfectly logical to assume that American documents released by wikileaks would make America look bad.
As for Russian hacking - I will await the production of evidence before drawing a conclusion. At the moment there is none.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

The US tries to influence elections too. The method is what matters.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:51 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04


Of course he is. That's his job.


No, his job is serving the American people, not Russia's interests. He has our military bombing civilians in Syria to help Russia's ally there. Funny how everyone seems not to be noticing.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:52 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: DJW001

The US tries to influence elections too. The method is what matters.


So hacking computers and leaking documents is okay? Hypothetically, I mean. When more solid evidence is presented, will it be okay?



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:53 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: OccamsRazor04


Of course he is. That's his job.


No, his job is serving the American people, not Russia's interests. He has our military bombing civilians in Syria to help Russia's ally there. Funny how everyone seems not to be noticing.


Of course the President needs to work with Russia. So do many in govt.
Working with Russia is in the interest of the American people, which is why every President in modern times has worked with Russia.
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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

It was DNC documents that showed DNC corruption. DNC is not even public, it's a private organization.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:55 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: OccamsRazor04


Of course he is. That's his job.


No, his job is serving the American people, not Russia's interests. He has our military bombing civilians in Syria to help Russia's ally there. Funny how everyone seems not to be noticing.

So he can not work with Russia without serving their interests? So the US needs to become isolationist because working with another country equates to serving their interest?



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:56 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: DJW001

The US tries to influence elections too. The method is what matters.


So hacking computers and leaking documents is okay? Hypothetically, I mean. When more solid evidence is presented, will it be okay?

Is it OK if Russia did it? What abuot a DNC whistleblower?



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 07:56 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: DJW001

The US tries to influence elections too. The method is what matters.


So hacking computers and leaking documents is okay? Hypothetically, I mean. When more solid evidence is presented, will it be okay?


Neither is OK.
That however is not the point. At the moment we have seen no evidence to tell us who hacked the DNC or who attempted to hack the voter roles, or if there even was a hack on the voter roles. We've also seen no evidence to suggest it is even unusual, or if multiple countries hacked various systems or tried to.




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