Defense Secretary James Mattis says: "It will be a very very serious war."

a reply to: D8Tee

there will be no war with North Korea unless they were to start it.

technically the Korean War never ended,no peace treaty has ever been signed, just a Cease Fire Armistice. the DMZ was setup because of this. the north has continually held hostile feelings for the south. there have been crossings and small engagements from both sides.

the north has attempted and has succeeded in building tunnels into the south. the first tunnel found was in 1974 and was reinforced with concrete slaps and had a small railway system, weapons storage, and sleeping areas. it extended about a half a a mile into the south, and estimates of up to 20,000 soldiers a hour could have passed through it.

no the north is not interested in peace. if they were, they would have long ago stopped and focused on healing their land and people instead of continuously trying to goad a fight.

the sad part is that there are probably ( or were) plenty of people that could have been very successful in business like their counter parts in the south. and many of the people in the north would not be eating grass or in forced labor/ death camps.

If the boomers simply fold their tent and pass on without building the USA UP NOW......well once you eliminate the criminals and re-hab cases.....no one will be insitu once the old age homes are left empty.

NK if anything will be a fiery burning deterrent or warning to the future that the Boomers left their future generations a lot of bang bang toys to keep them occupied with so its better to leave them alone.Just wait till they get a taste of the Rainbow Brigade in NK.....lol.

a reply to: nOraKat
There's no money in NK war. US need a war in which they can sell weapons to all sides and make $$s.

Maybe they can destabalise NK and sell the weapons to the militias/terrorists which will form when the US goes home and leaves it in a mess?

I thought for sure this was an older post. A month ago we were all but doomed for WW3 with NK according to Liberals and the media. Then the story died (like all other other Trump stories do).

a reply to: nOraKat

I know!

I am just utterly incredulous as to the contents of the news!

My apologies if it appeared as if anything else was afoot.

originally posted by: nOraKat

originally posted by: xSEEKxNxSTRIKEx

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: xSEEKxNxSTRIKEx
No it's not inevitable. China has said it can broker a deal. North Korea gives up it's nuclear program if the US leaves the peninsula. Seems rather simple, but the US will never do that, so there is a stalemate. For all those arm chair quarterbacks trying to 'save' the north koreans from their regime, ask yourself how thats turned out in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and any other place where US involvement has implemented regime change.

North korea wont give up its nukes and we are tgere for that reason on top of his constant threats of nuking us ..

I don't think he has ever threatened to nuke anyone offensively. Only in defense.

Yes, there is a long history of north korea threatening to turn America into ashes. He has threatened to nuke America several times on top of the threat of nuking china and australia. He requested aseans help and they denied his request because they do not condone nukes being used as a defensive weapon, because they are not. On top of them not wanting to be a part of him nuking anyone which he has made the threat, what la la land do you live in?

please remind me again.. what enormous problem exists right now that justifies nuclear war with millions dead?

originally posted by: xSEEKxNxSTRIKEx

originally posted by: nOraKat

originally posted by: xSEEKxNxSTRIKEx

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: xSEEKxNxSTRIKEx
No it's not inevitable. China has said it can broker a deal. North Korea gives up it's nuclear program if the US leaves the peninsula. Seems rather simple, but the US will never do that, so there is a stalemate. For all those arm chair quarterbacks trying to 'save' the north koreans from their regime, ask yourself how thats turned out in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and any other place where US involvement has implemented regime change.

North korea wont give up its nukes and we are tgere for that reason on top of his constant threats of nuking us ..

I don't think he has ever threatened to nuke anyone offensively. Only in defense.

Yes, there is a long history of north korea threatening to turn America into ashes. He has threatened to nuke America several times on top of the threat of nuking china and australia. He requested aseans help and they denied his request because they do not condone nukes being used as a defensive weapon, because they are not. On top of them not wanting to be a part of him nuking anyone which he has made the threat, what la la land do you live in?

glad dear leader kim isn't as determined as the usa, when it comes to threatening and destroying other countries, right? ;P

a reply to: xSEEKxNxSTRIKEx

And North Korea would say that this is defensive, since the USA has been leading calls for sanctions against it which cripple its ability to import goods. The USA also has its allies surrounding the nation, pointing their every intelligence resource and anti-missile system, as well as artillery equipment, at the nation. It also routinely postures and waggles its metaphorical member in the face of North Korea, which is reflected in North Koreas behaviour, solves nothing, but is still the preferred method of dealing with the dictatorship.

I have no love for North Korea, but it did not start threatening to nuke places, until it was cut off from the rest of the world by a trade embargo set up by other players, if I remember correctly.

This proves the lie that we are broke. What is the plan to pay for more troops and veterans? And the huge tax cuts.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: xSEEKxNxSTRIKEx

And North Korea would say that this is defensive, since the USA has been leading calls for sanctions against it which cripple its ability to import goods. The USA also has its allies surrounding the nation, pointing their every intelligence resource and anti-missile system, as well as artillery equipment, at the nation. It also routinely postures and waggles its metaphorical member in the face of North Korea, which is reflected in North Koreas behaviour, solves nothing, but is still the preferred method of dealing with the dictatorship.

I have no love for North Korea, but it did not start threatening to nuke places, until it was cut off from the rest of the world by a trade embargo set up by other players, if I remember correctly.

The people of north korea are starving and barely alive, little alone living. Nothing went to the people, the leader and his buds takes EVERYTHING. If a nuke were to be used, north korea would shoot one first. Before sanctions NK has been threatening us and SK for decades. The people there need help, they boil bark from trees to eat while theyre plumpy leader is eating healthy.

a reply to: MOMof3

Oh, there will be no plan to actually pay the servicemen recruited for this project, and absolutely no intention to protect the well being of anyone who survives the campaign, either while on duty or afterward. I am sure the individual regiments or nearest analogue thereof, would want their men safe and well after service, but administratively, no one is prepared to do the work, or spend the money to make that a reality, especially not a nation run by a hyper capitalist and a corporatist goon of the highest order.

a reply to: nOraKat

Again, as usual, war is the only answer. Gee, what a surprise!

a reply to: xSEEKxNxSTRIKEx

This has nothing to do with the people of North Korea. This is about one thing, and that is North Korea's nuclear weapons, and when they started issuing threats to use them.

They issued no such threat, until after fuel oil shipments from the rest of the world were halted in response to the news that North Korea had been operating a nuclear reactor. It was only well after this, which occurred in October of 02, that any North Korean leader mentioned actual nuclear strikes, a significant way down the line from the cut off of their fuel supplies, years in fact.

Again, no fan of North Korea, but the precise dynamic of the narrative being peddled by the media, and with the greatest respect, yourself, is simply not accurate as a depiction of what is going on in the region, or how it came about.

SO NK has nukes though none that can be launched on ICBM. Seem like they would have some loaded on trucks right along the DMZ though to disrupt invasion forces both air land and sea.

Not sure how much area one of his nukes could damage but seems like he would certainly have some along the borders already?

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: xSEEKxNxSTRIKEx

This has nothing to do with the people of North Korea. This is about one thing, and that is North Korea's nuclear weapons, and when they started issuing threats to use them.

They issued no such threat, until after fuel oil shipments from the rest of the world were halted in response to the news that North Korea had been operating a nuclear reactor. It was only well after this, which occurred in October of 02, that any North Korean leader mentioned actual nuclear strikes, a significant way down the line from the cut off of their fuel supplies, years in fact.

Again, no fan of North Korea, but the precise dynamic of the narrative being peddled by the media, and with the greatest respect, yourself, is simply not accurate as a depiction of what is going on in the region, or how it came about.

Pffft, they've been making threats for decades. They've threatened to nuke other countries as well, there is no justification for threatening a nuclear war! Even if he throws a nuke we could still beat him with out using ours. He is a threat to the American people and the world as well.

a reply to: xSEEKxNxSTRIKEx

With respect, no they have not.

They have been unable to threaten nuclear ANYTHING until relatively recently in world history. For example from 1985 until the end of the noughties, they were still keeping their nuclear development program under the most tightly guarded secrecy, and so could not use the threat of deploying any nuclear device for the entirety of that period, lest their ruse be discovered.

Where the heck are you getting your information?

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: xSEEKxNxSTRIKEx
No it's not inevitable. China has said it can broker a deal. North Korea gives up it's nuclear program if the US leaves the peninsula. Seems rather simple, but the US will never do that, so there is a stalemate. For all those arm chair quarterbacks trying to 'save' the north koreans from their regime, ask yourself how thats turned out in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and any other place where US involvement has implemented regime change.

The war has never ended, and NK has given up their nuke program a number of times already... Only two ways we would go to war... 1. If they hit America with a missile 2. If China partnered with us to clean that mess up.

originally posted by: Xeven
SO NK has nukes though none that can be launched on ICBM. Seem like they would have some loaded on trucks right along the DMZ though to disrupt invasion forces both air land and sea.

Not sure how much area one of his nukes could damage but seems like he would certainly have some along the borders already?

It would be an air war first... the invasion would come from the North downward. We would just hunker down and start the carpet bombing campaign. Give it a week and there would not be much left of their military outside of basic ground forces.

a reply to: nOraKat

nOraKat, there is merit to what you say, certainly... but given what high numbers of the cross section of American society have family in Military Service... and what with such a web of BS driving everything policy wise these days... and Congressional approval rates in the low teens... it might TAKE exactly such a thing to materialize pitchforks and torches in the capital.

When about the only folks whose kids aren't coming back in body bags are the ruling class... the peasants get pretty pissed off... EVENTUALLY.