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Trump Will Fire Special Counsel Mueller

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posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 12:26 AM
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a reply to: D8Tee

I know who carter page is. But we were discussing a hypothetical. No need to rely on outsiders to fill in the blanks, you have full liberty to make up the story.




posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 12:31 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Business savvy?

His failing casinos? His failed bottled water? His failed vodka?

Or how about my favorite, his meats-by-mail! That's right, Trump tried to push steaks through the mail in Skymall magazines. You know, those magazines on airplanes that sell overpriced crap?

The only thing he's been able to do is slap his name on things.

Trump is what poor people think rich people live like.
Trump is what uneducated people think a smart person should be like.
Trump is what a weak person thinks a strong man acts like.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 12:34 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite




I love your outrage at this.
Outrage? Where did you see that?
Rosneftt was sold and no one really knows who the buyers were. If team Trump made billions from that deal, and colluded with the Russians doing it, they'd lose my vote, thats all. Can you quote my outrage?



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 12:43 AM
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a reply to: Kettu

How inept do you have to be to fail at owning a casino? don't forget his scam university.

Any success this bozo has is due mostly to his fathers loans/inheritance.
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posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 12:57 AM
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a reply to: vonclod

Oh that's right!

Sorry, the list of failures is so big it's hard to keep track of.

If he had simply parked his inheritance in a mutual fund, he'd be more wealthy than he is now. That's how badly he's mismanaged his money.

The fact his businesses lost so much money he didn't pay taxes for decades? That's not "smart" that's desperate and questionably legal. Even his legal advisors said it was questionable at the time.

He's a P.T. Barnum carnival barker that sells an "image". That image is just a mirage. He sells people a fake persona of power, wealth and bravado ... but there's nothing to back any of it up.

Has he made money? Sure...but he's lost a helluva lot more money than he's made. And most of that money? Slapping "TRUMP" on something via a licensing deal. Not creating anything. Not innovating anything.

I can see the attraction though from weak people. They know it's an act, and they hope that maybe they can learn how to project a fake image of power, wealth and bravado like Trump. They see that he's weak, just like them ... and that gives them hope. Maybe if Trump can achieve so much from B.S. ... they too have a shot!

He's a brand, a cheap, tacky, with fake-gold everywhere brand. Trump isn't what wealth looks like.

Carlos Slim is what wealth looks like.
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posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 12:58 AM
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a reply to: vonclod

Yes, his father died, left him $100 million and through the grave turned it into $8 billion.

Trump has had literally no success LMFAO.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 01:00 AM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: vonclod

Yes, his father died, left him $100 million and through the grave turned it into $8 billion.

Trump has had literally no success LMFAO.


It would be a lot more than that if he had just parked it in a mutual fund LMFAO.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 01:06 AM
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originally posted by: Kettu
a reply to: carewemust

Business savvy?

His failing casinos? His failed bottled water? His failed vodka?

Or how about my favorite, his meats-by-mail! That's right, Trump tried to push steaks through the mail in Skymall magazines. You know, those magazines on airplanes that sell overpriced crap?

The only thing he's been able to do is slap his name on things.

Trump is what poor people think rich people live like.
Trump is what uneducated people think a smart person should be like.
Trump is what a weak person thinks a strong man acts like.


So much abject "failure" and still in the top 1% financially.
So many MSM and Political groups against him, but still earned the Presidency of the USA.

There's something YUGE about President Trump that anti-Trumpers can't grasp. But that's OK, because they are (unwittingly) helping to make his still-growing legacy all the more impressive!



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 01:07 AM
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Even I didn't realize it was this much...



Trump's net worth has grown about 300% to an estimated $4 billion since 1987

But the real estate mogul would have made even more money if he had just invested in index funds. The AP says that, if Trump had invested in an index fund in 1988, his net worth would be as much as $13 billion.


Dang...



The S&P 500 has grown 1,336% since 1988.

Other billionaires' net worths have beaten the stock market's growth in that time. Bill Gates, for example, saw his grow increase 7,173% since 1988 to $80 billion. Warren Buffet's wealth grew 2,612% in the same time period, to $67.8 billion.


Fortune Magazine

Bill Gates: 7,173% increase in net worth

Warren Buffet: 2,612% increase in net worth

US stock market: 1,336% increase

Trump?

A much smaller 300% increase in net worth.

I guess Bill Gates is a much better business man than Trump!



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 01:08 AM
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a reply to: Kettu

Taken from Quora:



Yes, it is true that certain funds would have outperformed Donald Trump's investments. I find it amusing that people who dislike Trump love to point this out.

Why?

Because they use it as evidence that he's not good at business. Turning $35 million into $4.5 Billion does not impress these folks.

Here's why I find it amusing:

The Rockefeller Fortune is $11.5B. In 1916 it was $374 Billion (todays dollars)

The Ford fortune was worth $188B in 1947 today it is worth $2B

The Kennedy fortune was worth $500 million in 1969. Today it is worth $1B

He has outperformed the Coors, Steinbrenners, Nordstroms, Tysons, Hewletts, and Pulitzer families and thousands more to become the 133rd richest billionaire in America.

And yet, these people, who couldn't afford to gas up his 757 want to convince you he's clueless when it comes to running a business and building an empire.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 01:11 AM
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You're obviously a moron if you can't keep track of 11 businesses.

Trump has had 515 businesses and only 11 have been failures.



The fact his businesses lost so much money he didn't pay taxes for decades? That's not "smart" that's desperate and questionably legal. Even his legal advisors said it was questionable at the time.


Carryover losses are not desperate or questionably legal.



If he had simply parked his inheritance in a mutual fund, he'd be more wealthy than he is now. That's how badly he's mismanaged his money.


That's both untrue and an amazing feat. Most people park their money in a mutual fund because they don't have the expertise to make the same gains as a dedicated full time fund manager. Trump had the expertise and still outperformed the market.




He sells people a fake persona of power


Yeah, it's so fake that his name is on all of those buildings, that he's worth billions, or that he's the president. He really has no power.



Sure...but he's lots a helluva lot more money than he's made


So he started with 200M and now has 8 billion... explain that math to me.



Carlos Slim is what wealth looks like.


Really? Drug cartel money slim? That's what wealth is?



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 01:15 AM
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Talk about triggered..if you guys polish Trumps nuts anymore they will be dolphin smooth



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 01:16 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

The fact remains that more people voted against Trump than for Trump, and with a voter turnout at the lowest levels in 20 years.

Only 55% of people even eligible to vote participated...and all those who did only made up 38% of the entire USA's population...

The "yuge" number of Trump followers isn't so "yuge" anymore.




posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 01:17 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

originally posted by: Outlier13

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Outlier13
Sessions has recused himself from the Russia investigation, it would have to be Rosenstein doing the firing.


Sessions' recusal of himself does not negate his official powers as AG. Sessions is the AG and Rosenstein is the Deputy AG. Sessions can fire both Rosenstein and Mueller. Trump can order Sessions to fire them all and be well within his presidential authority to do so and there wouldn't be a damn thing the hyperventilating left could do about it.

What I find very interesting is the very specific wording with respects to the Justice Department’s recusal regulation, 28 CFR 45.2, states that “no employee shall participate in a criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with … [a]ny person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution.”

This clause right here gives Trump every single right to order Sessions to fire Mueller right now because Mueller has had a 15+ year personal relationship with Comey. That is a HUGE conflict of interest considering the fact that the whole purpose of Mueller is to investigate whether Trump pressured Comey to drop the Russia investigation as well as investigate if this was why Trump fired Comey.

But guess what? We don't hear jack sh**t from the MSM about this massive conflict of interest nor do you hear anyone on the left screaming for Mueller to recuse himself. F**king pack of hypocrites.


Now, I find that interesting. There is reason to fire Mueller right there, and if Sessions could do the firing, it doesn't bring Rosenstein into play. Under that scenario it looks doable.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 01:19 AM
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originally posted by: Kettu
a reply to: carewemust

The fact remains that more people voted against Trump than for Trump, and with a voter turnout at the lowest levels in 20 years.

Only 55% of people even eligible to vote participated...and all those who did only made up 38% of the entire USA's population...

The "yuge" number of Trump followers isn't so "yuge" anymore.

Whats your point? Trumps president and thats the only fact that matters.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 01:25 AM
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a reply to: D8Tee

The fact is, Trump people want to believe they're some super majority in America, and act butt-hurt when the truth is pointed out...

They're not. They're a fractional majority that won due to gerrymandering and the electoral college.

This time the EC worked for them, in the past it hasn't. Both sides have bitched about it -- and this time it worked in their favor, congrats.

The takeaway is -- they're not some super majority. They're not some growing or rising tide. They're a minority in America that makes an ungodly amount of noise.

And when all is said and done, because of the internet -- they're not going to be able to just fade away. In previous generations you could remove a bumper sticker...with the internet, all these folks are going to have a hard time deleting all their tweets and social media posts.

And with employers checking up more and more on people's online footprints?

Yeah, I want nothing to do with the eventual dark stain and embarrassing legacy of "MAGA". No thank you.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 01:33 AM
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a reply to: Kettu
The Eastern Seaboard elites and the California Progressives lost. Big Time. Get over it. MAGA is here to stay. The Dems are done. Wait till they get slaughtered in the midterms lmao.



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posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 01:36 AM
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a reply to: D8Tee

I always forget they won fewer than 500 counties lol. Such a sad regional party.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 01:44 AM
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The dems are a party in rapid decline, and that is not reversing.

Currently, the U.S Senate is controlled by the Republicans. They have 52 Senate seats, Democrats 46, with 2 independents caucusing as Democrats (effectively giving them 48 seats). In 2018, 33 Senate seats are up for election, 25 held by Democrats, 8 by Republicans. Since Republican Vice-President Mike Pence will break any ties, Democrats must gain at least 3 seats, for a minimum of 51 total, to take control in early January, 2019.

I see them losing not gaining seats.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 01:49 AM
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Yep. It'll be a win for them if they only lose a couple. Then, depending on how the country is doing in 2020 they could take back the senate. The house is R until at least 2022 (probably much longer).



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