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Trump Will Fire Special Counsel Mueller

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posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:00 PM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: D8Tee

LOL Nixon resigned over the missing segment of the tape, not over firing people. That was where the obstruction was. The firing of people had nothing to do with it.

ETA: and nixon did fire cox. Read the articles from 10/21/1973


NO, Nixon did not fire Cox...

Bork fired Cox. Go do some homework.




posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: Kettu

Until now it was not known what the investigation was about. If the investigation is not criminal and not into Trump, then why is there need for special counsel?

Also, it was not known that comey had plotted to get a special counsel appointed, so the nature of their relationship wasn't really pertinent until comey came out and said what he did.



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: D8Tee

Sure he did. Did bork want cox fired or did nixon. You sure like to get off into the weeds.



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Do they not teach this in history class, or why are you so ignorant to America's own history?

Smoking Gun tape

One of those tapes was the so-called "smoking gun"[33] tape, from June 23, 1972, six days after the Watergate break-in. In that tape, Nixon agrees that administration officials should approach Richard Helms, Director of the CIA, and Vernon A. Walters, Deputy Director, and ask them to request L. Patrick Gray, Acting Director of the FBI, to halt the Bureau's investigation into the Watergate break-in on the grounds that it was a national security matter. The special prosecutor felt that Nixon, in so agreeing, had entered into a criminal conspiracy whose goal was the obstruction of justice



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:06 PM
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He should. There's literally no point for Comey's BFF to be running an investigation now that we know it was BS to begin with



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:07 PM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: D8Tee

Sure he did. Did bork want cox fired or did nixon. You sure like to get off into the weeds.


FFS, it's not off in the weeds, it's actual history as to how it went down, not the way you perceived it to be. If Nixon could fire Cox directly then there would have been no Saturday Night Massacre, he would have just fired Cox, what part of that are you having a hard time understanding?



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:08 PM
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a reply to: D8Tee

Why did Ruckelhause and Richardson Resign?

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posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:15 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

The Justice Department’s special counsel regulations say that the special counsel should only be fired if they take some action that is “so inappropriate or unwarranted under established departmental practices that it should not be pursued.”

They had promised Congress they would not interfere with the Special Prosecutor, and, rather than disobey the President or break their promises, they resigned.



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:17 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite
Technically, Trump could also order the special counsel regulations be repealed and then fire Robert Mueller directly, but that would be political suicide.



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:19 PM
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a reply to: D8Tee

Correct. Bork hadn't made such promises and was able to fulfill his duty.

It is getting off into the weeds to say that Nixon didn't have the authority to fire cox simply because he wasn't the one to utter the words "you're fired". Nixon wanted cox gone and cox got canned. If he didn't have the authority to fire cox he couldn't have gotten that result.
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posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Answer it that way on any grade school history exam and see what it gets ya. Think what you want, it's the internet, you're allowed your version of events.



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:28 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite


The trump Russia conspiracy has been proven false


Why do Trump supporters keep saying this? It's demonstrably untrue yet it's like a mantra for morons in denial.


The entertainment value alone would be fantastic. Can you imagine the triggering?


Oh, I really really hope he does. The "triggering" you're speaking of would be the drafting of the articles of impeachment. Are you really this clueless? If Trump fires Mueller, it's a wrap. It won't even matter what the results of the investigation are. He'll be ridden out of town on a rail by his own party and you guys will be dumbfounded wondering what happened. (which I imagine is the status quo for many a cult member anyway)



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:29 PM
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originally posted by: TSefu
He should. There's literally no point for Comey's BFF to be running an investigation now that we know it was BS to begin with


And no one raised any objections when Rosenstien hired Muller for the job?

Interesting...

It's also interesting how unified all the right-winger media outlets are...down to almost the exact same wording on this, and how quickly its spread.



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian


If Trump fires Mueller, it's a wrap. It won't even matter what the results of the investigation are. He'll be ridden out of town on a rail by his own party and you guys will be dumbfounded wondering what happened. (which I imagine is the status quo for many a cult member anyway)


Agreed, unless Mueller was doing something way out of bounds, he is going to stay where he is. If he finds something conclusive on Trump with regards to the Russian narrative, then Trump needs to answer for that. Personally I don't think that will be the case, but I'm just some guy on the internet.
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posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:33 PM
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I also find it interesting how the right-wingers care more about fake conspiracies about a man (Trump) who's being investigated over a real conspiracy.

That's cultism 101 for ya!

LMFAO!
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posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:36 PM
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He SHOULD fire him... given Comey and Mueller's history of botched prosecutions and railroading of innocent folks and prosecutorial misconduct.

Course... it will lead to anaphylactic shock in the left... and ultimately... the left looking like idiots because they don't have a clue about the existing executive privilege afforded the executive branch.

I suppose someone could take them by the hand, and walk them through, oh... lets say the Clinton Presidency and the Obama Presidency and the extraordinary powers of the Executive.

Hillary lover Alan Dershowitz has TRIED to talk to his fellows on the Left, about how woefully ignorant they are about the rights of the POTUS... but he got no traction... so many on the left don't want to be confused by facts, since they have already made up their minds with media propaganda.

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posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:39 PM
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originally posted by: BlueAjah
Trump does need to fire him.

Comey made it clear in his Congressional testimony that he has been colluding with Mueller, and their intentions are suspect.
Comey is a very bitter man.

Also, Comey's testimony that Trump is not under investigation shows that a special counsel is not needed.




In addition...

""Four members of special counsel Robert Mueller's team on the Russia probe have donated to Democratic presidential campaigns and organizations, according to Federal Election Commission filings.""

thehill.com...



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:39 PM
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originally posted by: dasman888
He SHOULD fire him... given Comey and Mueller's history of botched prosecutions and railroading of innocent folks and prosecutorial misconduct.
Sure, fire the Special Counsel, thats not going to go over very well. What reason would Trump give? I don't like him? Trump would never get out from under that dark cloud that would hang over him. Not a good idea imho.



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: Kettu

At the time we weren't aware of the comey plot.



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: D8Tee

I think what probably happened is Trump mused about it to a few people but he's not surrounded by crazy people (well mostly, Bannon might actually be nuts). I'm sure his advisors would keep him from shooting himself in the foot that badly. Though it's interesting that Newt is out laying the groundwork for the possibility in the media. He's either off his rocker, believes Trump is insane and is preemptively working on a defense or he's working to get Trump sunk by his own party.



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