A New Look at Puma Punku and the H-Block Mystery

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: jeep3r

the thing that always really screamed at me is there arent any other buildings like this in the region or anywhere else on earth , with such modular ideas , the way they are cut etc

there is more than meets the eye for sure

great thread and will continue to read up on it again in case I have missed something

The Closest Resemblance In Design for stone work is in Ruins and churches Askum Ethiopia ( 7th century claimed to be made by Angels LOL) , and Ajanta Caves in India, even South east Asia, and Middle East,

but all in different Time Frames from the Span of 2,000 years







This is Before the RECONSTRUCTION of TIWANANCO

Why megalithic construction at all though? If you have the technology to precisely cut large stones, why would you not cut hundreds of smaller stones that could be moved by one person at a time at approximately 100# each As the rest of the construction was.

These people had a warning that something was coming, an that to withstand the damage these had to be constructed from massive pieces of stone. And it seems even that did not prevent them from destruction.

You have to think about what people were seeing to build those temples shaped as pyramids too. In India it was copying the shape of the Vimana's, which they very well detailed belonging to their gods and being used in Battle in the sky.

Why do we have huge underground complexes as well?

The battle among the gods came to Earth and these people(humans) were told / assisted by some in order to shelter them.

puma punku with its faces, tried to document the "human tribes" or beings that they hoped to save there or atleast leave a record of.

No matter where in the world you look, the gods came down from the sky brought the knowledge to us and then left in fire and roaring wind.
Humans made a jump evolutionarily during this time again obviously with knowledge they observed and absorbed in a short time frame. So the story goes humans were given the gift of knowledge of the gods, we ate from the tree of forbidden fruit, we became aware, and GOD of all gods, took issue with giving us too much at once.

Thus the light bearers or bearers of knowledge (lucifer) were cast out, as were giants, angels, annunaki, etc. Some pro and anti forces may have battled over the use of us for slaves or for the ability to keep our civilizations advanced.

In the End, Vimana and Vialixi battle among the sky and obliterate large areas the earth. Then comes the great reset, Atlanteans and their higher tech are lost in the great flood, as are many tribes and we are reset to more primitive ways.

Places like puma punku were built as directed from their gods using advanced tools or tech which was then taken away.

Of course why were we given anything in the first place? We were enslaved to bring the gods gold.

Bring it to the ships (vimanas/pyramids) this is why the rulers built similar structures.

Did they have gold at the egyptian pyramids, the indian temples, the sun temple, yes all those places.

Where does the US keep its Gold, to appease the gods... in a temple

originally posted by: ChrisM101
Why megalithic construction at all though? If you have the technology to precisely cut large stones, why would you not cut hundreds of smaller stones that could be moved by one person at a time at approximately 100# each As the rest of the construction was.

Because the quarrying and shaping of stones is what took the longest time and most work to accomplish.
It's easier to cut large stones and drag them than it is to cut 10 times as many smaller stones and carry them.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

I think you've just proven how rare and valuable masonry saw blades were back then.

I mean, they are made out of goldanium from the Pleiades after all.

a reply to: Harte

If this was true why is the preferred size of modern construction still at a level of thousands of times less.
No doubt we could cut larger stones faster than them but still struggle to move anything at the size of these monolithic beasts.

originally posted by: Wolfenz

originally posted by: Darkstar12
On the mold theory. What did they make the mold out of? I mean they had to get the crisp cuts on the inside of the mold. Would something amazing have to be made either as a positive or a negative buck to create the mold? In my experience you need a master before any molding process can begin.

well not necessarily crisp cuts from the mold , but the finishing touches ( the next Step in the Process ) after the blocks been Made from the mold , Right a master ..

this is how I look it ,

when a Modern Construction Company makes a ( Masonry ) Building
with their High tech Tools in or from a different Country
they Usually don't leave Machinery behind
nor their Tools Behind ,

So where is the Time frame Progress of Improvements
over the years Decades too Centuries in Bolivia Puma Punku ?
I don't see that in Peru Bolivia , Nor in Mexico or In between.

That why their may have been, a Foreigner Traveler from the Old World that Helped
Built it.

originally posted by: ChrisM101
a reply to: Harte

If this was true why is the preferred size of modern construction still at a level of thousands of times less.
No doubt we could cut larger stones faster than them but still struggle to move anything at the size of these monolithic beasts.

We don't build entire buildings out of stone, so we don't need as many individual stones (when we use stone at all.)
Also, The AEs didn't have worker safety and worker compensation laws, nor did they require insurance or face liability.

Harte

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: ChrisM101
a reply to: Harte

If this was true why is the preferred size of modern construction still at a level of thousands of times less.
No doubt we could cut larger stones faster than them but still struggle to move anything at the size of these monolithic beasts.

We don't build entire buildings out of stone, so we don't need as many individual stones (when we use stone at all.)
Also, The AEs didn't have worker safety and worker compensation laws, nor did they require insurance or face liability.

Harte

Let's not ignore one very fundamental principle about moving large stones.

Moving them was EASY! We simply lost the simple tech (which science is bringing back in labs after so much time has passed) of sound.

Sounding a shofar in Jericho brought walls down but it can also levitate objects if the proper note is sounded whether heard or simply a vibratory tool...

Some legends also speak of powder being used.

Look at the type of stone quarried... if they used levitation sound tech then the hardest part was cutting the stone.

If our ancestors learned this technique, it was lost but there are legends that speak of floating stones.

One old guy figured it out in Fl.

a reply to: Harte

Lets say ok Modern Construction does not use stone.. But go back a few hundred years ago. Pre-OSHA , Pre Steel reinforced Concrete... Why not use them then?

a reply to: ChrisM101

Have you never looked at Medieval and Renaissance era Gothic Architecture and construction? The European cathedrals used some rather large stones and features some quite impressive craftsmanship. It's what happens when you have skilled laborers learning newer techniques and skills over a period of several thousand years.

www.touropia.com...

a reply to: peter vlar

Yes but that time period did amazing work with 100s of millions of pounds of stone, yet if you look at the construction you can see the typical size of blocks is no where near Megalithic Size. Even at those early times they used iron in cathedral construction as a means to stabilize. It pretty much proves my point that they prefer to move 100 million one ton stones versus several 100 ton stones.

a reply to: ChrisM101

No, It doesn't prove that point. What it proves is that architectural and engineering standards and practices changed over hundreds and hundreds of years.

originally posted by: ChrisM101
If this was true why is the preferred size of modern construction still at a level of thousands of times less.
No doubt we could cut larger stones faster than them but still struggle to move anything at the size of these monolithic beasts.

The people in the past didn't have our ability to forge massive amounts of steel. Too bad the ancient aliens wouldn't help them out in that way.

originally posted by: ChrisM101
a reply to: Harte

Lets say ok Modern Construction does not use stone.. But go back a few hundred years ago. Pre-OSHA , Pre Steel reinforced Concrete... Why not use them then?

Iron and fashion.

Harte

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: ChrisM101
If this was true why is the preferred size of modern construction still at a level of thousands of times less.
No doubt we could cut larger stones faster than them but still struggle to move anything at the size of these monolithic beasts.

The people in the past didn't have our ability to forge massive amounts of steel. Too bad the ancient aliens wouldn't help them out in that way.

The least they could have done is take the parasitic worms out of their legs.

Harte

a reply to: peter vlar

But specifically Puma Punku has both megalithic features and small cut stone.
If megalith was the "easy" way to build, why were foundations and walls featuring smaller cut stone as well?
This is in addition to whatever structure the H Blocks, etc would have been.

Aliens!!-Greek guy on the History Channel

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: ChrisM101
Why megalithic construction at all though? If you have the technology to precisely cut large stones, why would you not cut hundreds of smaller stones that could be moved by one person at a time at approximately 100# each As the rest of the construction was.

Because the quarrying and shaping of stones is what took the longest time and most work to accomplish.
It's easier to cut large stones and drag them than it is to cut 10 times as many smaller stones and carry them.

Harte

It's also impressive. Huge solid blocks of unimaginable might, provide an intimidating, strong impression of the culture and its leader, for visitors, and gives the citizens a sense of pride. It was probably very difficult, which only added to the glory when they show it off to visiting rulers, diplomatic visitors, royal messengers, etc. They set their mind to it. Unless it literally is impossible, there is nothing that could have stopped a group of men who have endeavored to lavish accolades upon themselves and impress the females... also, the females from Other tribes, and the females married to our rivals, and the females from our past... but mostly that one female we really wanted but she rejected us, we really want her to see us doing good.

a reply to: anti72

I think you guys will find this interesting

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