The Starchild Skull is Human

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
If they weren't human, would they have said so?

Hilarious. "They're just saying it's human because they don't want us to know that it is totally NOT human!"

I suggest that the mother, consulting with a Shaman (one that was attached to the Dark Magic force) took all kinds of exotic or weird potions for the reason of birthing an exceptional offspring...descended from the gods


many women took to the practice of the head-binding rituals to present the population with a offspring destined for sacrifice ~ and were rewarded during the parents' and deformed skull offspring lives with constant and annual 'blessings' of food, wealth, abundance... for their consumption and higher standard-of-living in the community


Hey, welfare Queens & children throughout the history of humanity... a book should be written to address that angle,


the Star Child was just another attempt to live a life of ease and entitlement... albeit with a shadowy, dysfunctional aura about it...

a reply to: eluryh22

Also Human but still a bit of a mystery.

Stanford Daily

Well one thing is for certain is that regardless where it came from We still share one commonality and brotherhood/sisterhood: Life.

I hope it had a good one

a reply to: niv


This was already confirmed multiple times.

originally posted by: kelbtalfenek
a reply to: niv

I was always positive that it was human. When Mr. Pye held the skull and claimed that it was not human based upon DNA tests being "indeterminate" or of "unknown origin" I always wanted to have the skull submitted for more tests.

Multiple tests were done. They concluded the father was 100% human and subsequent testing confirmed the mother was 100% human.

It was a scam.

a reply to: niv

1999 testing proved a human father.
2003 testing proved a human mother.

Basically what they did was choose a part of the DNA where they found errors and then extrapolate that percentage of errors to the entirety of the DNA to falsely state it has too many errors to be human. It was a lie.

An example of what I mean ... they test 1% of the DNA and find a difference. They then extrapolate and claim there are 100 differences (even though they only found 1) and that is too many for it to be human.

Scam.

Next thing they will be saying the pyramids werent built by aliens!

a reply to: AndyMayhew

And they will beam power into space to power up spaceships .. because they obviously don't have the technology for better alternatives.

originally posted by: SilverOwls
a reply to: niv

Pyes followers are the only ones who didn't already know 😃 everyone else knew it was human twenty years past.




Especially Pye.

Ah, figures never believed the skull was anything more than a child's one with a condition even without prior tests. He was passionate in belief despite the tests results when he was alive.

originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: SilverOwls
a reply to: niv

Pyes followers are the only ones who didn't already know 😃 everyone else knew it was human twenty years past.




Especially Pye.

Ah, figures never believed the skull was anything more than a child's one with a condition even without prior tests. He was passionate in belief despite the tests results when he was alive.

Ah, but you had as your belief only a bias against accepting anything of alien origin, whereas Pye had reasons based upon intriguing anomalies (which people like you could never debunk, only ignore). This latest report admits it could not rule out the possibility that the human nuclear DNA found in the skull could have resulted from contamination. Its conclusion is therefore as unreliable as the carbon-14 tests on the Turin Shroud turned out to be because the samples taken from it were heavily contaminated by handling of the cloth over the centuries.

originally posted by: micpsiThis latest report admits it could not rule out the possibility that the human nuclear DNA found in the skull could have resulted from contamination. Its conclusion is therefore as unreliable as the carbon-14 tests on the Turin Shroud turned out to be because the samples taken from it were heavily contaminated by handling of the cloth over the centuries.

You keep saying that, but I have asked multiple times for you to show where it says that. I can't find that anywhere on the report.

Paleo Labs tests results were conclusive in their Y-DNA report; the Starchild was a male and his father was a human from haplogroup Q which is what comprises 94% of indigenous South Americans.

Either show where they say that or stop making the claim.

originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: SilverOwls
a reply to: niv

Pyes followers are the only ones who didn't already know 😃 everyone else knew it was human twenty years past.




Especially Pye.

Ah, figures never believed the skull was anything more than a child's one with a condition even without prior tests. He was passionate in belief despite the tests results when he was alive.

That's because, unlike you, Pye was fully aware of the possibility of contamination, which would invalidate the negative conclusions. Pye was always willing to accept a negative finding. But, unlike you, he was NOT willing to accept a finding that still depended upon scientifically unproven assumptions, namely, that the samples tested had not been contaminated by years of handling by human beings. The fact that the tests never eliminated this possibility means that nothing certain can be deduced from them, so that the question of the nature of the skull remains unresolved.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

The lab admits the possibility of contamination at the end of its report. Try reading it.

a reply to: micpsi

I looked for what you quoted. I don't see it. I see them discussing that the fibers are likely the result of contamination. Please be specific where you see what you quoted.

In the conclusions section at the bottom.

Is the Starchild alien, hybrid or human? The collective scientific data that has a repeatable test result concludes: the Starchild is human.

a reply to: micpsi

The combination of replication, fragment sizes obtained, procedures in place for laboratory sterilization and elimination of Paleo-DNA Laboratory DNA profiles suggest the results are authentic and not contamination.

Controls were run at every step of the analysis and gave expected results. The above profiles do not match any staff member or laboratory user at the PaleoDNA Laboratory, past or present.

You completely misrepresent what the report says. All it says is that Pye let people touch the skull and they have no samples for those people to test against. But it would require someone of the same haplogroup to be the contaminator, contaminating every single sample taken by multiple labs in multiple places where contamination is almost impossible. So it is not 100% certain just close to it, and certain enough they believe there is no contamination. Coupled with every other test done showing 100% human .. yeah sorry this is a dead horse. 100% human.

a reply to: eluryh22

From what I remember, Greer himself made the announcement that the Atacama Humanoid preliminary tests came back as human. link
Now, its 'partially' human. Human or not, the testing proved that the 'man' lived 6-8 years. If that isnt crazy, idk what is...

a reply to: Brian4real

It doesn't have to be alien to be interesting. In some ways it being human is more interesting.

a reply to: niv

That is a strange outcome because I remember Lloyd Pye say there are some critical things about that skull which has nothing in common with a human skull...

But hey.. I am not a specialist. On the otherhand Lloyd is dead and not able to defend or to protect this skull from bad intent.

R.I.P. Lloyd...and Starchild.