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Angry scenes as hundreds of anti-Muslim protesters at 'March Against Sharia' rallies in 28 cities

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posted on Jun, 10 2017 @ 10:20 PM
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a reply to: BubbaJoe

and you never provided the reason they asked to search or if the search was forced.... I just now saw you said it was in the 90's so kind of a moot point since the laws have changed.

also you said -

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
No driving from Denver to Santa Fe, north to south, was stopped and searched. Our Constitution is being eroded.


Interjecting your incident into the conversation I was having with the other poster. Its not hard to reach the conclusion you were complaining based on the conversation with the other poster and your response to it.

Next time be clear.
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posted on Jun, 10 2017 @ 10:22 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: EternalShadow

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: EternalShadow
This from 2016:

"We come in and out of California, and this is the first time they've ever asked us to open the trailer,” said Henry Haurand, a native of Salt Lake City who regularly comes through California.

ifox40.com...

Like I said....a lack of knowing ones rights and exercising them effectively.

The net full of videos showing people exercising their right and being thrown into secondary inspection where they are FORCIBLY made to comply or risk seasure and arrest.

Yeah.... the whole guilty before innocence scenario..

That's constitutional??




We all have rights, but traveling on a public highway, they be somewhat deminished.


Motor vehicles have a lesser protection than a persons house under the 4th.


REALLY???? I don't recall the 4th specifically distinguishing the two.....hmmm


I dont recall the 4th amendment specifically stating motor vehicles. Secondly driving is a privilege and not a right. The initial scotus ruling is Carrol vs. US, which created the exceptions. Motor homes are also an exception but only while in motion.

Reasonable suspicion is needed to perform a traffic stop. Absent the officer requesting and being granted consent to search, probable cause is needed IE - search incident to arrest, contraband in plain sight, etc.

with this said my apologies to the op for derailing the thread. If you want to start a new thread or work this topic into the op topic we can.


Maybe I was lucky, I had very polite customs agents ask if they could look through my vehichle, probably 1995, I let them, no big deal



posted on Jun, 10 2017 @ 10:29 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: BubbaJoe

and you never provided the reason they asked to search or if the search was forced.... I just not saw you said it was in the 90's so kind of a moot point since the laws have changed.

also you said -

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
No driving from Denver to Santa Fe, north to south, was stopped and searched. Our Constitution is being eroded.


Interjecting your incident into the conversation I was having with the other poster. Its not hard to reach the conclusion you were complaining based on the conversation with the other poster and your response to it.

Next time be clear.


Not really a complaining kind of guy, am a vet. You have to realize how far this country is split right now. Only 30% support our president, but he is our president.

I never responded to anyone but you, not sure who this third party is?



posted on Jun, 10 2017 @ 10:34 PM
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originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: BubbaJoe

and you never provided the reason they asked to search or if the search was forced.... I just not saw you said it was in the 90's so kind of a moot point since the laws have changed.

also you said -

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
No driving from Denver to Santa Fe, north to south, was stopped and searched. Our Constitution is being eroded.


Interjecting your incident into the conversation I was having with the other poster. Its not hard to reach the conclusion you were complaining based on the conversation with the other poster and your response to it.

Next time be clear.


Not really a complaining kind of guy, am a vet. You have to realize how far this country is split right now. Only 30% support our president, but he is our president.

I never responded to anyone but you, not sure who this third party is?


Your response to me was based on my conversation with EternalShadow, where he was talking about the fruit checkpoints and fireworks seizure.



posted on Jun, 10 2017 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: BubbaJoe

and you never provided the reason they asked to search or if the search was forced.... I just not saw you said it was in the 90's so kind of a moot point since the laws have changed.

also you said -

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
No driving from Denver to Santa Fe, north to south, was stopped and searched. Our Constitution is being eroded.


Interjecting your incident into the conversation I was having with the other poster. Its not hard to reach the conclusion you were complaining based on the conversation with the other poster and your response to it.

Next time be clear.


You actually realize that the rules of the constitution have not changed since the 90's



posted on Jun, 10 2017 @ 10:40 PM
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a reply to: BubbaJoe

No but the exceptions to search and seizures when dealing with automobiles have.



posted on Jun, 10 2017 @ 10:51 PM
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lol, women's rights and Sharia? About as "compatible" as oil and water. Let's not kid ourselves.

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posted on Jun, 10 2017 @ 11:24 PM
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Meanwhile, American muslims scratch their heads and wonder why 28 cities of people angrily mobilized and waved banners against something they never asked for.



posted on Jun, 10 2017 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: MagnaCarta2015

Meanwhile over 6 billion earthlings scratch their heads and wonder why these backward savages ban non-believers from entire cities and wonder why the hell we should welcome these intolerant, violent, sexist, mysoginist, homophobic, pedophile psychopath worshippers to our cites.




Sure as hell looks like sharia is applied to non-muslims to me.
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posted on Jun, 10 2017 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Must've missed the memo where you became the spokesperson for the entire world and quietly got rid of the first amendment. Aren't you a busy little bee.



posted on Jun, 10 2017 @ 11:51 PM
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a reply to: MagnaCarta2015

Oh.

You wanna play that game?

Who elected you spokesperson for all muslims?

Nevermind, everybody knows muslims are supremacists who think they are superior to all kafir/infidels and look down on us with derison and contempt.

So your assessment is accurate,


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posted on Jun, 11 2017 @ 12:42 AM
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originally posted by: sled735
I don't understand why people are bothering to march for Sharia Law when it is not allowed in this country, per our constitution.


Neither is overstaying your Visa or sneaking across the border.



posted on Jun, 11 2017 @ 01:32 AM
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Why not have a Muslim float at a gay parade and they can all live happily ever after



posted on Jun, 11 2017 @ 01:38 AM
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Doesn't Sharia Law only apply to those that follow it? I can see in other countries where it is the law of the land so women etc are screwed, but here it is pretty much a law that one follows or not.



posted on Jun, 11 2017 @ 02:20 AM
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Lol, look at those dumb Americans. Protesting sharia law on the street corners while wearing MAGA hats !? Make America great again by selling weapons to a country where sharia law is practiced ?
Your president danced with people who practice and enforce sharia on their citizens yet you are protesting Sharia law wearing MAGA hats and American flags !!!!!!!!!
Loooooool. This is some Monthy Python material right there.
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posted on Jun, 11 2017 @ 02:23 AM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero
Doesn't Sharia Law only apply to those that follow it? I can see in other countries where it is the law of the land so women etc are screwed, but here it is pretty much a law that one follows or not.


Sharia is severely misunderstood even by many muslim. They are not rules they were not ment to be enforced like say Saudi Arabia does. They are guidelines to becoming a good muslim. interpretation of Sharia is called "Fiqh," or Islamic rules of right action, created by individual scholars based on the Quran and hadith. This Fiqh distinguishes between the spiritual value of an action (how God sees it) and the worldly value of that action (how it affects others). 

Calling it laws is very misleading and shows a complete lack of understanding of Islam. The Fiqh simply tells Muslims what to aspire to in certain situations. And is a model that Muslims try to live by. But there was never supposed to be a punishment for failure.
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posted on Jun, 11 2017 @ 03:57 AM
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originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: sled735
I don't understand why people are bothering to march for Sharia Law when it is not allowed in this country, per our constitution.

Can anyone answer this for me?


No one is marching for Sharia law, they are marching against hate.



How do you get hate from "no sharia law"?




posted on Jun, 11 2017 @ 05:59 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: EternalShadow

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: EternalShadow
This from 2016:

"We come in and out of California, and this is the first time they've ever asked us to open the trailer,” said Henry Haurand, a native of Salt Lake City who regularly comes through California.

ifox40.com...

Like I said....a lack of knowing ones rights and exercising them effectively.

The net full of videos showing people exercising their right and being thrown into secondary inspection where they are FORCIBLY made to comply or risk seasure and arrest.

Yeah.... the whole guilty before innocence scenario..

That's constitutional??




We all have rights, but traveling on a public highway, they be somewhat deminished.


Motor vehicles have a lesser protection than a persons house under the 4th.


REALLY???? I don't recall the 4th specifically distinguishing the two.....hmmm


I dont recall the 4th amendment specifically stating motor vehicles. Secondly driving is a privilege and not a right. The initial scotus ruling is Carrol vs. US, which created the exceptions. Motor homes are also an exception but only while in motion.

Reasonable suspicion is needed to perform a traffic stop. Absent the officer requesting and being granted consent to search, probable cause is needed IE - search incident to arrest, contraband in plain sight, etc.

with this said my apologies to the op for derailing the thread. If you want to start a new thread or work this topic into the op topic we can.


This side topic isn't inflammatory, hence the tolerance. You are either law "enforcement" or related to. Traveling is a guaranteed right. The only reason it's presumably a privilege is because, I guess, the DMV says so.

Are you comfortable with an agency(the DMV) superseding our judicial system??? Whereas the DMV can dictate policy that supersedes our duly elected local judges????



posted on Jun, 11 2017 @ 06:03 AM
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originally posted by: ErrorErrorError
Lol, look at those dumb Americans. Protesting sharia law on the street corners while wearing MAGA hats !? Make America great again by selling weapons to a country where sharia law is practiced ?
Your president danced with people who practice and enforce sharia on their citizens yet you are protesting Sharia law wearing MAGA hats and American flags !!!!!!!!!
Loooooool. This is some Monthy Python material right there.


They don't seem to understand irony very well.



posted on Jun, 11 2017 @ 06:47 AM
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Sharia Law in UK
fullfact.org...


Academics tend to be more relaxed, saying that "fears that councils are forming a parallel legal system appear to be unfounded". A new book by a Dutch researcher is reportedly more critical about how women in particular are treated. Researchers also stress that we need more information to work out how important Sharia councils are on the ground, and the experiences of people using them. Similarly, the government now says that "there is evidence of a problem, but we have an inadequate understanding of all the issues involved". It has commissioned a review into whether Sharia is being "misused or applied in a way which is incompatible with the law", to report in 2017.


Some info for whomever was asking a page or so ago




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