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(Montreal) LGBT community celebrates 8-year-old drag queen. Critics call it child abuse

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posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: Sheye

And you're proving to be quite the hypochristian. Attempting to judge me? (Especially considering the statement wasn't even directed at you.) I've read the bible on multiple occasions, back when it was forced upon me and even after just as a means for understanding the religion, even as an atheist. There are many passages pertaining to the SIN of judging. The famous obviously being from Matthew.

“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

There's even more than what I just inserted. But I'm sure as a Christian you should know that.


And, it personally makes no matter to me, because as I said, I'm an atheist. But for you...who is a Christian..who is so hell bent on being offended and you judging that I'm worthy of feeling your god's smite, that's clearly judging. Not very christian of you to pass such judgement.

What does that say about a Christian who believes in god and says they believe in the words of the bible...but does not follow the messages it blatantly conveys? Oh, right, that makes you a hypochristian.

But, how dare I, right?
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posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 03:04 PM
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a reply to: silo13

If that were my boy he would end up in boot camp faster than his alphabet soup a-hole buddies could clap.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 04:51 PM
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"Lactatia"

Bwahahaha!

That's not a name for an 8 year old drag queen. That's a name for a big fat middle age dude with low T and large manboobs.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
a reply to: Sheye

And you're proving to be quite the hypochristian. Attempting to judge me? (Especially considering the statement wasn't even directed at you.) I've read the bible on multiple occasions, back when it was forced upon me and even after just as a means for understanding the religion, even as an atheist. There are many passages pertaining to the SIN of judging. The famous obviously being from Matthew.

“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

There's even more than what I just inserted. But I'm sure as a Christian you should know that.


And, it personally makes no matter to me, because as I said, I'm an atheist. But for you...who is a Christian..who is so hell bent on being offended and you judging that I'm worthy of feeling your god's smite, that's clearly judging. Not very christian of you to pass such judgement.

What does that say about a Christian who believes in god and says they believe in the words of the bible...but does not follow the messages it blatantly conveys? Oh, right, that makes you a hypochristian.

But, how dare I, right?


Actually the bible doesn't say don't judge.. it says don't be a hypocrite while judging.

The bible also tells us to not sit down and partake with sinners. How are we to do that without first judging the sin of sinners.

Enough off topic veering... but I will say I' ve had enough of your name calling those who won't conform to your way of thinking, 'ignorant ' or ' backwards' .

So if you want to be a hypocrite with only seeing your opinion as ' worthy' and calling others ignorant, be ready for some judgement stones coming back your way.

Done now... let this go for the sake of thread topic... which is indeed not progressive to our society as I see it but very regressive for the souls and spirits of innocent children.
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posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
a reply to: Sheye

And you're proving to be quite the hypochristian. Attempting to judge me? (Especially considering the statement wasn't even directed at you.) I've read the bible on multiple occasions, back when it was forced upon me and even after just as a means for understanding the religion, even as an atheist. There are many passages pertaining to the SIN of judging. The famous obviously being from Matthew.

“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

There's even more than what I just inserted. But I'm sure as a Christian you should know that.


And, it personally makes no matter to me, because as I said, I'm an atheist. But for you...who is a Christian..who is so hell bent on being offended and you judging that I'm worthy of feeling your god's smite, that's clearly judging. Not very christian of you to pass such judgement.

What does that say about a Christian who believes in god and says they believe in the words of the bible...but does not follow the messages it blatantly conveys? Oh, right, that makes you a hypochristian.

But, how dare I, right?


Actually the bible doesn't say don't judge.. it says don't be a hypocrite while judging.

The bible also tells us to not sit down and partake with sinners. How are we to do that without first judging the sin of sinners.

Enough off topic veering... but I will say I' ve had enough of your name calling those who won't conform to your way of thinking, 'ignorant ' or ' backwards' .

So if you want to be a hypocrite with only seeing your opinion as ' worthy' and calling others ignorant, be ready for some judgement stones coming back your way.

Done now... let this go for the sake of thread topic... which is indeed not progressive to our society as I see it but very regressive for the souls and spirits of innocent children.


Haha. You make me laugh. It says it right in the first sentence. It says do not judge or you too will be judged. Doesn't get more concise than that. The part about being a hypocrite references the idea that if you judge and do not expect to get judged in return, that makes you a hypocrite. It doesn't mean you are free to judge whoever you want so long as you don't think of yourself as being hypocritical.

You'd think as a Christian you would understand and comprehend your own religious text. Damn, you have some catching up to do, sister Christian.

I invite more posts. Lol. They put a smile on my face.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth

I understand the bible just fine.. and I also understand on some very deep level what you don't seem to grasp ... how 8 year old boys dressing up in drag and ' playing' in nightclubs is an abomination to our Lord. His sharpest judgements in the bible were against those that harmed children , and I would think that would include the scenerio of this thread.

I'm afraid I'll pass up on you explaining the context of verses in the bible for me.. I have one or two.. I can read them and comprehend just fine .


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posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth




So, it's not hurting the kid psychologically no more than religion psychologically hurt someone like me. Every human experience is different and because our parents are our initial gatekeepers, they ultimately groom us in one way or the other...be it believing in a god of some kind or believing that it's fab as hell to put on a dress and be a queen.


Can you be so sure it's not hurting the kid psychologically ? What if that young boy grows up resenting the innocence that was stolen from him as a child and ends up deeply resenting young innocent boys because of it ? He may even go out of his way to steal this innocence from other children and if he falls deeply into immorality may even torture and kill young innocent souls that he deeply resents because of his own upbringing .

You can't even begin to say this is not doing damage because his life journey is not nearly complete enough to make such an assumption.


Holy crap, what a strong assumption. How can you be so sure it is? That's where your thinking is misguided. You're coming from the perspective that being a drag queen will lead this kid to being a child raping murderer. That's very naive of you to assume such a correlation. It's not only a false correlation but what you're describing is a fallacy known as 'slippery slope'. Look it up if you need to. What you're saying is based on your own biased religious feelings and is completely nonsensical. It's all based on your own personal biases and the misconceptions a lot of religious people are the victim of. Or don't even call it a religious misconception if you'd rather not...just a misconception by itself.

It's not going to hurt him. It didn't psychologically harm me to believe for almost my entire life that some imaginary figure lives in the sky. When I discovered the truth based on scientific evidence and the prowess that many wonderful scientists have attained to, I didn't go out and murder anyone. The chances of him either outgrowing this or just doing this to adulthood without any harm being done is WAY MORE LIKELY then him feeling angry and 'robbed of his childhood'. Plus the odds of his feeling robbed AND then going out and killing and raping is EVEN MORE UNLIKELY. The odds are HIGHLY stacked AGAINST what you're saying. Your post sounds ignorant and foolish for believing that this would lead to something as heinous as pedophilia, rape, torture or murder. Read a science article or book or two. You sound like you have some catching up to do.

Just because you do not understand something or don't agree with it based on no evidence whatsoever, it does not make it true or even remotely a likelihood. Nice try though.
Many people that arent psychologically harmed today alsp used to believe Santa and the Easter bunny, what's your point.

You're comparing apples to oranges in regards to the implications this would have on anyone's mind once they become an adult and realize he was just a kid and now that's he's older he's not so sure.

And what happens when the child sees viral videos that will be on the internet forever of himself that millions around the world have also seen. What happens then?

I definitely wouldn't want to be around to find out. It's sick. These LGBTQ...people are projecting themselves and how they thought they did feel or thought they would have felt.

What also amazes me why must these people embrace a mental disorder, if I were to find out I had a brain disorder not sure how I would act so I won't say for sure but it seems like once these people get happier for some reason and start having big egos wanting lots of attention.. It's like hey look at me I have a brain disorder.. The likes of Ellen shows etc..



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 06:34 PM
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originally posted by: Farlander
"Lactatia"

Bwahahaha!

That's not a name for an 8 year old drag queen. That's a name for a big fat middle age dude with low T and large manboobs.


The name seemed sort of 'off' in a creepy sexual way. Watching the video I sensed that this child was actually a porn star in the underground network of gay pedos.. and his parents were fine with it. No proof, just a gut instinct by the way the interviewer fawned over him and the boys demeaner. This is more than some 8 year old dressing like a women a few times during ' dress up games' at home.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 06:45 PM
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My God...

Adults = Don't Care

Kid = Abuse

This is wrong on all levels.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth




. One day, the ignorance will die out and all we can hope for is that the world of tomorrow will be fully accepting of the 'differences' that keep us divided today.


How dare you insinuate those who do not conform to your way of thinking are ignorant.

Maybe it will be the willfully sinful like you who are in for the big wake up surprise from ignorance.


















How dare I? Take chill pill, sheesh. You believe in something devoid of any scientific evidence, the rest of the world would consider that ignorance. And it wasn't even directed at you, so it's not my fault you took it that way.

And your vague threat of damnation is so silly it makes me laugh.
You get so offended.


That wasn't a vague threat at damnation.. merely saying there may come a time of awaking for many... especially for those who cling to science as their God and condemn the Sacred and Divine truths.

I threaten damnation to no one , but I do wait patiently for our Lord to reveal His truths about what is His will and what isn't ... to every living human. I think there will be a huge awaking in the form of grace and visible signs in the sky, followed by a great chatisement.

Time will reveal many things and the Holy Trinity is in control.



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 09:05 PM
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This is more than some 8 year old dressing like a women a few times during ' dress up games' at home.


I can envision the right's gay token media darling Milo having a similar youth maybe???



posted on Jun, 13 2017 @ 09:33 PM
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Does the Kid want to do this for show ?
is he happy just dressing up without the attention ?
if he is not
and he wants to express himself publically
and that makes him happy
have his parents properly prepared him for that ?
been guides in making sure its his " thing "
and not hijacked by another agenda ?

maybe the kid just wants to be an entertainer
I don't think he
in his mind is sexualizing the dressing up
but are the people around him ?
the people reacting ?


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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 04:55 AM
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originally posted by: Farlander
"Lactatia"

Bwahahaha!

That's not a name for an 8 year old drag queen. That's a name for a big fat middle age dude with low T and large manboobs.



and you can bet that some fat pervert gave "it" the nickname.

Hm...I just realized I have a new gender pronoun these cases. IT.

Two things come to mind when referring to IT:

1. John Carpenter's IT
2. IT came from the desert.

I dont know if it's related to the issue at hand...could be...




posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth




. One day, the ignorance will die out and all we can hope for is that the world of tomorrow will be fully accepting of the 'differences' that keep us divided today.


How dare you insinuate those who do not conform to your way of thinking are ignorant.

Maybe it will be the willfully sinful like you who are in for the big wake up surprise from ignorance.


















How dare I? Take chill pill, sheesh. You believe in something devoid of any scientific evidence, the rest of the world would consider that ignorance. And it wasn't even directed at you, so it's not my fault you took it that way.

And your vague threat of damnation is so silly it makes me laugh.
You get so offended.


That wasn't a vague threat at damnation.. merely saying there may come a time of awaking for many... especially for those who cling to science as their God and condemn the Sacred and Divine truths.

I threaten damnation to no one , but I do wait patiently for our Lord to reveal His truths about what is His will and what isn't ... to every living human. I think there will be a huge awaking in the form of grace and visible signs in the sky, followed by a great chatisement.

Time will reveal many things and the Holy Trinity is in control.


Hahaha.


Have fun with that, staying hypnotized by your imaginary friend and his cult following all while ignoring actual science and evidence that backs actual amazing discoveries and advancements. You're no different than the many civilizations of long ago that believed in multiple gods, like the Greeks with Zeus or Hades. You have no understanding of science, so anything that is outside of your very limited understanding must be god or a miracle.

And...
Visible signs in the sky? Sounds like you're waiting for an E.T.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:20 AM
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Haven't we veered this thread off topic enough?

But for the record the God I believe in created the wonders of science.. so I don't dispell science.. just don't view it as ultimate truth.

Also for the record, the God I believe in was very clear about harming children... and I believe this story shows that bad parenting is damaging this child psychologically.

I have a right to this opinion as much as you have yours...so lets agree to disagree because this back and forth arguing is not helping.


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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: Sheye

We can agree to disagree.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 04:22 AM
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a reply to: silo13

I seem to recall a ot of people claiming that no kids were going to be telling their parents anything. Some of us knew better, though!

Abuse, indeed. That poor kid's life is being destroyed.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 04:57 AM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: MonkeyFishFrog

At the age of 2 I was pulling the berets out of my hair declaring definitively that I didn't want or like them. To this day I can't stand anything in my hair. Kids know themselves. Even at 7 or 8.


Actually no they don't....

With my kids I really wanted them to grow into their sexuality and not have it thrust on them like so many. In this case I see a lot of external adult influence and approval/reward type involvement. Even at twice that age they are still trying to figure it out. Adults have way to much assumptions...




Agreed! I have three teens at home right now, and two older "kids". The teens are NOT all into the over-sexed, hyper-sexualized crap that so many of their peers seem to be into. They don't even like a heavy kissing scene in a tv show or movie. Modest by nature, and in no rush at all to be trying this or that. Then again, we home school, so they aren't exposed to a lot of it. They pretty much choose their own music, etc, too, and never once have they gravitated to the self-gratification pop crap, or the raunchy rap stuff, or any of the other questionable choices out there. They think it's junk. Can't begin to describe how much I love that!! Heck, even my oldest, who was in public school, didn't act that way in her teens, and she was not an easy teen! Too many assume that kids are supposed to be sexual beings, and they aren't. A child of eight years? No, he does NOT know who he is, and no child that age has any idea about sexuality, no matter what they may later claim. No child that age should even be thinking about sex AT ALL. If they are, someone needs to be checking for possible abuse. At the least, such a child would have to be exposed to things they shouldn't be seeing at hat age. All they need to know is that the parts under a swimsuit are private, and how to keep themselves safe from pervs.



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 05:00 AM
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originally posted by: silo13
a reply to: Indrasweb

Good points in that children as young as 8 are supposed to know what they want etc, but they can't drink, smoke, drive, own a gun, etc.

We all know that line of thought.

What we might not see lurking around the corner is the age of concent being dropped.

The UNCRC (United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child) are pushing for the age to be dropped as (they say) 'It's against a child's rights to refuse them lawful healthy behaviors (consensual sex) because of their age.


Children under the Age of Consent have a strong level of maturity, intellect, emotional intelligence, and social capabilities. It’s time we stop limiting their potential, criminalizing certain of their perfectly healthy behaviors (sex), and restricting their right to experience all the things that they would be able to experience if they lived 100 years ago or in other nations or US states where the Age of Consent is lower.
source


It’s time to rethink our laws and the impact they have on our society, from the activities that we label as criminal to these laws’ limitations on human potential and experience. The effects are maddening, as children are certainly frustrated by such limits and rightfully so. Such frustration is seen each time an underage teenager acts out to establish his or her sense of agency and self-control. We see the impact when our children and teens act less mature than is age appropriate: we’re coddling them, and it shows!


See how the verbiage makes what is right wrong, and what is wrong right?

I’m sure NAMBLA just loves this.

peace



So, the whole point of the UN crap about children's "rights" is to push for better conditions for pedos? Why a I not surprised???

Clearly, the age of consent laws are the real targets here!!



posted on Jun, 15 2017 @ 05:07 AM
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a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

I've said the same thing on another thread. There are vile people running the planet right now, and yes, the UN needs to die along with the EU!

Once these freaks are dealt with, people can continue on living the way they should have been in the first place, in peace!




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