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Reasons why US bases need to leave if North Korea ends and who should be involved.

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posted on Jun, 7 2017 @ 10:31 PM
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Reasons why US bases need to leave after North Korea ends.

Assuming an invasion scenario that ends the dictatorship with US, China, SK and possibly Russia.

#1 US is of mostly white people. Makes an easy target like the Vietnam war. The war will never end unless US goes mass genocide which will end up as usual pissing off the civilians of North Korea. This will just piss off China and Russia. A very good reason to drag China into the war with Russian help just like the old days. Just look at Middle East. White people aren't true Arabs. You can never win a war by race without ethnic cleansing.

If this actually happens UN will either have to truly step in and stop US military or get disbanded by the world for not ending genocide by US constant warfare.

#2 Only Asians speaking Korean or Koreans can actually end the war peacefully. They know better and they know their history more. You can't have people from other country attempting to try and reunite another country after civil war. It simply will not work and will be seen as an invasion. In this case China and South Korea can do the work.

#3 South Korea is super peaceful to both countries and does not want war. There will be no excuse to have bases in Korea afterwards. If SK is able to reunite and prevent hatred from spreading. It is a good deal for both countries China and US. US having bases just means it still trying to takeover the world. If NK doesn't start WW3. US basically started WW3 by constantly meddling with Asian affairs. Again UN will have to decide which side.

Countries that should not get involved.

#1 Japan should not be involved what so ever, except defending their island from missiles or artillery strikes. Koreans still got full hatred of Japanese since WW2. Unless of course they got people that speak Korean to help SK. Can't have masses of Jap soldiers going into NK. It will just end badly for the allies and Japan.

#2 NATO allies should not be there either. So French, German, Canada, others needs to stay the fk out, can't have miscommunication. It was an old war cause by US and SU that shouldn't have happened because technically Korea is influence by China since Ancient times.

Only nations that can get involved is US, China, Russia, and SK. Why? North Korean civilians don't know the world. They only know of the nations that is listed or close to them.
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posted on Jun, 7 2017 @ 10:40 PM
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originally posted by: makemap
Reasons why US bases need to leave after North Korea ends.

Assuming an invasion scenario that ends the dictatorship with US, China, SK and possibly Russia.

#1 US is of mostly white people. Makes an easy target like the Vietnam war. The war will never end unless US goes mass genocide which will end up as usual pissing off the civilians of North Korea. This will just piss off China and Russia. A very good reason to drag China into the war with Russian help just like the old days. Just look at Middle East. White people aren't true Arabs. You can never win a war by race without ethnic cleansing.

If this actually happens UN will either have to truly step in and stop US military or get disbanded by the world for not ending genocide by US constant warfare.

#2 Only Asians speaking Korean or Koreans can actually end the war peacefully. They know better and they know their history more. You can't have people from other country attempting to try and reunite another country after civil war. It simply will not work and will be seen as an invasion. In this case China and South Korea can do the work.

#3 South Korea is super peaceful to both countries and does not want war. There will be no excuse to have bases in Korea afterwards. If SK is able to reunite and prevent hatred from spreading. It is a good deal for both countries China and US. US having bases just means it still trying to takeover the world. If NK doesn't start WW3. US basically started WW3 by constantly meddling with Asian affairs. Again UN will have to decide which side.

Countries that should not get involved.

#1 Japan should not be involved what so ever, except defending their island from missiles or artillery strikes. Koreans still got full hatred of Japanese since WW2. Unless of course they got people that speak Korean to help SK. Can't have masses of Jap soldiers going into NK. It will just end badly for the allies and Japan.

#2 NATO allies should not be there either. So French, German, Canada, others needs to stay the fk out, can't have miscommunication. It was an old war cause by US and SU that shouldn't have happened because technically Korea is influence by China since Ancient times.

Only nations that can get involved is US, China, Russia, and SK. Why? North Korean civilians don't know the world. They only know of the nations that is listed or close to them.

Nope. Stay. It helps us project power into China and Korea is probably the most American like country in the world "behind US obviously ". They dont want to do become a Chinese puppet



posted on Jun, 7 2017 @ 11:08 PM
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originally posted by: odinsway
Nope. Stay. It helps us project power into China and Korea is probably the most American like country in the world "behind US obviously ". They dont want to do become a Chinese puppet

Nope, no need to.

Once Korea is united, the US needs to get out. We got Japan still (of which a base reduction would be merited also). China is not our enemy, they are our competitor. If anything wrong happens, again, we got Japan as our base there and that is ultimately a mutually beneficial arrangement.



posted on Jun, 7 2017 @ 11:23 PM
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I put the NK point of view HERE

It is very simple.

Move the US right out of Korea, they are still an army of occupation.

Have China and Russia commit an armored division each to the border between NK and SK.

Then ... you can have talks between SK and NK regarding unification.

It would not be all that hard to achieve. You just have to give both countries united, not one taking over the other.

How you merge the two ... it will be difficult but not impossible. It has been done before with Germany.

Merge



With this. A long way apart.



It can be done! It has been done.

What right did the US have for annexing SK in the first place?

They want a world empire, just the standard empire building!

P

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posted on Jun, 7 2017 @ 11:42 PM
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Dudes, you guys realize N. Korea collapsing would cripple South Korea, a good friend and great ally of ours -- right?

Imagine the insane flood of refuges that would pour like a tidal wave of human flesh into Seoul. They certainly would rather go there than China...

And even China isn't prepared to take in the number of refugees N. Korea would have on their border either.

The world is more interconnected than people realize. Even sitting in a town of 400 in rural America you are part of a global civilization. You can't stick your head into the sand forever.



posted on Jun, 8 2017 @ 02:14 AM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
What right did the US have for annexing SK in the first place?

They want a world empire, just the standard empire building!

P

If the US didn't, the russians and chinese would own a full fledged communist korea, and the entire place would be dark.

Yeah, I get it, you hate the US.

too bad. Go moan to China about how the bad US wants to build a starbucks where a grand statue of Mao could be erected.



posted on Jun, 8 2017 @ 02:17 AM
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originally posted by: Kettu
Dudes, you guys realize N. Korea collapsing would cripple South Korea, a good friend and great ally of ours -- right?

Imagine the insane flood of refuges that would pour like a tidal wave of human flesh into Seoul. They certainly would rather go there than China...


And if it was a full collapse, their would be a tidal wave of investors and builders going into NK to build a grand nation under a united Korea.

As far as refugees, they would have a significantly easier time finding nations to house them than say, Syria. no religious fanaticism and a culture of hard work and appreciation for whatever they can give. the mega red pill they get the second they cross borders astounds them about how sh-t the NK government is



posted on Jun, 8 2017 @ 08:02 AM
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Annexing? Really? No U.S. presence and there wouldn't be a South Korea. Period.


The Soviets would have this planet in a workers paradise....including Europe.


Idiocy.



posted on Jun, 8 2017 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: makemap

I think that issue is best left to the Korean government and relevant treaties.



posted on Jun, 8 2017 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: Kettu
Dudes, you guys realize N. Korea collapsing would cripple South Korea, a good friend and great ally of ours -- right?

Imagine the insane flood of refuges that would pour like a tidal wave of human flesh into Seoul. They certainly would rather go there than China...

And even China isn't prepared to take in the number of refugees N. Korea would have on their border either.

The world is more interconnected than people realize. Even sitting in a town of 400 in rural America you are part of a global civilization. You can't stick your head into the sand forever.


China has millions of people to help millions of people on North Korea in basic learning. Technically they don't need to move the North Koreans. Just take over the land and send them back to build a more modernized society. This is mostly up to US and SK willingly to do joint with China to end the super cruel dictatorship. There have been reports of NK running to China's border not just SK. China wasn't accepting them because they don't want a war at its border.



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