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Needless to say - it's the subject matter we're discussing not the bill at this point - too bad the muck up in between.
I could care less what country it is spouting this drivel - I'll pounce.
If Bill 89 actually was all about what you claim, then you'd actually have a piece of ground to stand on.
But as it turns out, you don't.
Nothing to do with fake news and everything to do with the fact that you bought into a misinformed opinion piece (linked in your OP)... a source that is not an actual news site... therefore, NOT fake news at all. Just another blogosphere op-ed being taken as literal.
originally posted by: Sheye
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye
I believe he is saying the hate is coming from the right on forcing children to accept who the parents want them to be, not supporting them and getting them help.
So a six year old child should tell a parent who they want to be and force their support ? " mommy I want to wear dresses and go to the girls washroom because I feeeel like I should "🤷🏻♀️
That sounds like the child forcing their desires on the people responsible for his upbringing.
originally posted by: silo13
a reply to: Involutionist
Bill 89 has NOTHING to do with anything in the OP and the discussion that has followed. Context is important...
Information gained from The Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
The paramount purpose of the Act — to promote the best interests, protection and well-being of children — remains unchanged from the current Act.
The additional purposes of the Act are expanded to include the following:
To recognize that services to children and young persons should be provided in a manner that respects regional differences wherever possible and takes into account,
physical, emotional, spiritual, mental and developmental needs and differences among children and young persons;
a child’s or young person’s race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, family diversity, disability, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression; and
a child’s or young person’s cultural and linguistic needs.
Temporary care agreements may be entered into with respect to children of any age and are no longer restricted to children younger than 16
Bill 89, Supporting Children, Youth and Families Act, 2017
Gender identity anyone?
What a bunch a BS - later it says:
Instead, a society is to choose a residential placement that, where possible, respects the child’s race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, family diversity, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression and cultural and linguistic heritage.
Really? Really? So YOUR SOCIETY is to choose the best place for a child? Are you INSANE?
So a 4 year old is on the playground telling a friend 'My mommy made me sit in the corner because I told her I feel like a girl/boy'.
Teacher jumps on it and from there the SOCIETY makes the CHOICE where YOUR CHILD GOES?
I don't give a shat what any of you say - it's WRONG!
Bill 89, “Supporting Children, Youth and Families Act, 2017,” was approved on June 1 by a vote of 63 to 23.
The Minister of Children and Youth Services, Michael Coteau, who introduced the bill, said earlier this year that a parent’s failure to recognize and support a child’s gender self-identification is a form of child abuse, and a child in these circumstances should be removed from the situation and placed into protection.
“I would consider that a form of abuse, when a child identifies one way and a caregiver is saying no, you need to do this differently,” Coteau said. “If it’s abuse, and if it’s within the definition, a child can be removed from that environment and placed into protection where the abuse stops.”
“With the passage of Bill 89, we’ve entered an era of totalitarian power by the state, such as never witnessed before in Canada’s history,” said Jack Fonseca, senior political strategist for Campaign Life Coalition. “Make no mistake, Bill 89 is a grave threat to Christians and all people of faith who have children, or who hope to grow their family through adoption.”
Beginning in Kindergarten, students will be taught about the many ways to express gender. Gender expression education will include information about the manifestations of traits that are typically associated with one gender. Crossdressing is one form of gender expression.
Third graders will be introduced to the concept of gender identity. These children will be taught that they can choose their own gender.
Fourth graders will be expected to “define sexual orientation,” which refers to whether a person identifies as heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual; they’ll also be taught about HIV prevention.
Children in fourth grade will be told that they can choose their sexual orientation.
Fourth and fifth graders will learn about the relativity of gender roles and why such roles are social constructs that are not inherent to who we are as male or female human beings.
Seventh graders will be expected to “distinguish between biological sex, gender identity, gender expression, and sexual orientation.”
High school students will critically “evaluate how culture, media, society, and other people influence our perceptions of gender roles, sexuality, relationships, and sexual orientation.”