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originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: burdman30ott6
Good f#ck the EU and their shady methods to extort and blackmail countries to do there bidding. Even as a german i full respect and understand Poland,Czech Republic and Hungary's decisions. The EU has no right to force other countries to take on refugees. I stand with them.
Amazingly, nobody in a position of authority has taken the forward thinking and defensible position of making state sponsored Islam illegal, which is why we are in this situation currently.
I've read on it, don't really have many issues with how Hungary handles this. It seems to be working for them as they don't have civilians laying in the streets bleeding from terror attacks...
Instead of trying to weed out the "good" Muslims from the bad Muslims in some bizarre game of "who's got the bomb" while they cross into western borders, we should be severing any and all connections between their governments and their religion.
Uh, the west also insulated itself against the only comparison between that war and the present war on terror: they made state sponsored Shinto ILLEGAL. It worked and made the world safe against the insanity of Japan believing their emperor was a deity and lining up to kill and die in the name of of their religious beliefs.
I 100% support Trump's travel ban (and believe it should be tremendously expanded)...
...do you really think I give a rat's ass about the Geneva Convention's refugee and asylum clauses?
I've not said all of the refugees were muslims... I said thanks to Taqiyya there's no way to know who's who and I'm unwilling to play a game of refugee roulette.
I'm no fan of Robert Ford. I disagree with his position on the US arming anyone in Syria because, with the sole exception of the Kurds, every middle east "ally" we've armed over the years has been disloyal and has bitten us in the ass as soon as their initial target was neutralized.
As I said earlier, you can't separate Islam from politics because it has become too intertwined. It is the modern equivalent of 1940s Shinto in Japan... and should be dealt with in the identical manner.
2. It isn't "cognitive dissonance" in any way. Cognitive Dissonance: the state of having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes, especially as relating to behavioral decisions and attitude change.
Show me any inconsistencies in my position. You're calling a basic disagreement between your ideology and my own an example of cognitive dissonance, what I think you mean is "dude, you disagree with me."
...but let's not be disingenuous and say that religion plays no role in these attacks and in these crimes.
OK, let's agree to disagree on that point.
Let me ask you this, why does it matter whether Hungary's decision is based on politics or on religion?
It is their nation, are they not allowed to keep their own border security and choose themselves who is and who is not allowed into their country?
The European Union may have to decide whether an EU civil war is worth saving a handful of good apples from an otherwise rotten bushel.
originally posted by: 123143
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: 123143
Actually, I don't watch TV, and never the major networks on the net.
Yah, you just 'happen' to agree with it.
This is just plain ridiculous. People will occasionally agree.
originally posted by: Painterz
originally posted by: Perfectenemy
I can't stress that enough but Poland has ZERO terror attacks. Really makes you think.
Yeah cos 'thats' why Muslims attack, it's definitely NOT the FACT that the Quran demands it of them.
Poland is also not actively bombing Muslims in Iraq and Syria. Also makes you think.