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Sexy Junky ISIS - The Real Reasons Europes Muslims Join Up

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posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 12:59 PM
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What do you think are the reasons many British or European Muslims run away to join the circus? Radicalisation? Hatred? Religion?
Well none of the above
It seems one of the main reasons is actually sex....or lack of it.

As many as 800 British Muslims are suspected of joining ISIS with around half returning. From that 400 only 14 have been jailed with the rest being left to roam and possibly join other extremist groups or indoctrinate others. Many have been forced to escape, some are let loose to spread the doctrine, many surrender.
Returning Fighters

Now, let's think for a moment, if these were true believers, true Jihadists who hated the West, radicalised to the point of giving up everything and risking their lives for their beliefs, why would they want to return or escape or surrender?

The truth is evidence has emerged that many British & European Muslims join ISIS for sex. Yup that's one of the only reasons. Sex and drugs and maybe not rock & roll but hero status. However,many that run off bags packed full of condoms are realising that once there, all the recruitment videos full of wild claims handsome men seeking loving wives and booty & loot,were just a scam and the reality is nothing like what they were lead to believe.

Why is sex drugs and hero status the main attraction for these Muslims? It boils down once again to lack of integration and the difficulties in living in a 2 culture home. Many of the younger generation Muslims in Britain (probably the same goes throughout Europe) have white English friends. However, they are told by their parents Imams and the like that this is wrong. Not only that but they see there non Muslims friends going out on a week-end going to the pub or club, having girlfriends, talking about sex and they are excluded. The feel left out and are unable to communicate on a social level as they have been taught that sex before marriage is wrong and drinking smoking drugs are wrong, in fact most freedoms we enjoy in the West are wrong and against Islam's teachings. This results in envy and a lack of social cohesion between the Muslims and the non Muslims. Friendships can't be formed on a deeper level as there is little by way of common denominator. The Muslim teens are trying to live two lives to which they don't feel they belong to either. This is why over years the drug trade and prostitute trade have gravitated into the hands of young Muslims....they may not be allowed sex and drugs but they will damn well control it!!

ISIS offer all of the above. As much sex as you have the energy for drugs to make you feel good and camaraderie with like minded people who allegedly understand you and your internal struggle. They feel like they belong. They feel heroic and heroes get the girls. Its the biggest baddest gang in the world as has been shown by Channel 4's program Extremely British Muslims. And this isn't just a Muslim male issue either, the number of girls running off to Syria has trebled in recent years, attracted to the hero fighter and the boys lap it up standing for pictures with their AK47 going "Look at me now girls look how sexy I am how tough" and of course the "honour and respect" they will allegedly receive for having "Babies for ISIS" and populating the Caliphate. It should be noted that quite often the contrast between the women willingly joining ISIS and the men is drastic. The men are often young pretty stupid badly educated and join for the machismo, the women join for the honour and are usually far more idealistic than the men and many are far better educated. This goes back to what I said in another thread about women being the driving force in terrorist attacks whether hands on or not.

Women joining Isis


Most if not all of these kids are not hardened street fighters or ex military or mercenaries, but really quite weak people. We have all seen pictures of for example the Manchester bomber kid. Hardly the poster boy for ISIS recruitment. Many are lonely awkward people that turn to ISIS to improve their status and "get the girls" because the fact is they probably wouldn't back home in Blighty anyway.

It has been stated by various outlets that many need to escape severe sexual frustration. They are surrounded in the West by sexuality sexual images pornography and of course access to the internet. Many suicide bombers were both drug and porn addicts and/or regular prostitute users. What does this tell us? That as a species we are very sexual creatures and by denying that need, we create problems. This of course doesn't just include the Muslim world but the religious world too. Denying priests marriage & sex creates the well publicised paedophilic Catholic priest image, denying sex to prison inmates leads to "gay" prison sex men that don't get sex rape etc etc


Alyas Karmani an Imam from Bradford has taken on the arduous and possibly dangerous task of preaching and teaching the Muslim community about sex and trying to get the Muslims to open up and stop their denial regarding all things sexual. Dr Karmani mentions that 80% of Imams are born outside the UK and have little knowledge of the communities they preach in. He recalls asking an Imam when he was 15 about sex urges and was told to "stop eating dates and raisins"! He states he gets hostility from Muslims who believe he is undermining the very tenets of Islam. That kind of mentality is partially to blame for the situation the younger generation of British Muslims are in today, the don't mention the "S" word and it will go away.

Is it any wonder really why we have these "homegrown" terrorists? Until the Muslims in Britain and Europe decide for themselves that they DO belong in their country of choice and they DO need to re-think their interpretation of Islam, the status quo will remain

(sorry no pretty pictures for those that don't like to read a lot
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The Islamic Sex Doctor

Sex & British Muslims

www.newstatesman.com...

Drugs of Choice



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:06 PM
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Wow, these Muslims that think these people should be left back into the society are delusional. It is not like a soldier fighting in the British army, these ISIS soldiers were fighting the Brits. WTF is wrong with some people?



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Yup weird mindset...give them a second chance they say..hmmmm



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport




It seems one of the main reasons is actually sex....or lack of it.


Goats are abundant in ISIS camps so I'm not sure why they're talking about it being a lack of sex for the ISIS clowns.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

They aren't if you read it all...they are talking about the lack of sex for British Muslims being part of the reason they join ISIS it seems perhaps you may have skimmed through the post and got the wrong end of the stick

edit on 6-6-2017 by PhyllidaDavenport because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:12 PM
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went to a Bible college. hundreds of students; no sex, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, etc.

not saying there wasn't in certain corners, but not much.

we never jihaded anyone.

and we were aware we were 'out of sync' with much of the culture. if anything we were proud of that.
edit on 6-6-2017 by ElGoobero because: clarify



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: ElGoobero

I appreciate that but at a guess it was a mainly white bible college and not full of 3rd generation Muslim immigrants? So despite your religious differences, you were still able to relate to those around you, those in your social groups? You weren't alienated for being from a totally different culture and religion? Christianity being the named religion of choice for most of the West



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Or I just wanted to call them goat-pokers.

You decide.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

lol I decided it doesn't contribute much to the post



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
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edit on 6-6-2017 by slider1982 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

well i cant disagree with you, you might be right and you the people of Europe understand the mentality of Muslim emigrants better than me, most if not all of Muslim emigrants in your countries especially UK are from India and Pakistan and i saw them in some you tube videos act aggressively and i dont know why to tell you the truth, when comparing them with those who come to my country (UAE) and live here and also work, they dont act the same way which is really strange, even though some of them have girlfriends and go to bars and live the way the like without any Imams interfering in their lives.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: slider1982
"suspected Isis fighters where searching online outside of their own religious stuff was actually Pornography"
I've already stated that in the op which goes hand in hand with what I'm saying that sex is a major factor



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:33 PM
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I think you might be correct and a god pointer to it would be the promise of so many virgins if they die for the cause.
But what one must really understand the basic tenets of Islam IS male domination. That in itself is the biggest draw ie. if your the man your the top dog and women are your slaves.
Some-one will pull me up on the slave comment ,but that IS what they really are.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Well, #posting begets #posting. What can ya do, eh?



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: Dr UAE

Most are actually Pakistani, since after the war and the partition of India we invited them here to make up the labour force.
We now have a few libyan somali turkish etc but the majority are still Pakistani



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: slider1982
"suspected Isis fighters where searching online outside of their own religious stuff was actually Pornography"
I've already stated that in the op which goes hand in hand with what I'm saying that sex is a major factor



I was simply confirming what I had heard..


RA



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:43 PM
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a reply to: crayzeed

Male domination made all the worse by not permitting sex, so they rape, so they treat wives like sperm receptacles and baby incubators.

The various religions throughout the world that prohibit sex ALL have problems. Even the "revered" Buddhist monks of Nepal have faced and continue to face allegations of child abuse of young novices. Catholic Priests (probably other unmarried priests too) The Inquisition was a known proponent of the rape of "witches" by priests.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Not to much different from an 18 year old American joining the military out of High School if you ask me. Apparently, idealistic kids joining militaries due to lies about glory and honor seems to be persuasive among all cultures.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

But it is different when they are immigrants from a different culture with a different religion being brought up in an opposing country. It creates jealousy and a tiny bit of hatred for the freedoms we enjoy but they can't



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: slider1982




Sorry there are a few things that need to be addressed, either they grow up and deal with the place that has accepted them and their forefathers or if you do not like it then head some place where it all works for you


you know what, when my parents started taking us on summer vacations to London in the late 70's they were some Indians that worked in grocery stores and at that time because we knew a lot of Indian words when i for example try to talk to someone in an Indian language they acted like they never knew the language which made me think that these people left every thing behind and wanted to start an English life, i think all the # began when false Imams started to go over there and F 'd their minds.



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