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Jailed NSA Leaker Reality Winner: Being White is Terrorism

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posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Vasa Croe



I'd say that they cleared a person who was intent on leaking docs shows a pretty poor clearance procedure.


How would they have known she would eventually leak something. Hell, I would say that she didn't even get in to her position with the intent to leak info.

You're being disingenuous and blaming procedures for the act of one individual.



If not, then why don't we have leaks all over the place? Looks more like she was possibly "streamlined" in with a sponsor or something....if that's the case then I'd like to see who sponsored her as they should be reprimanded as well. That's the only way she could get clearance quicker and would suggest an actual conspiracy.


Are you just making things up? It appears you have no clue what you are talking about.


No, I'm not making things up. I had Secret clearance for years and it was pushed through by a sponsor at Lockheed because of a large project I was running for their global combat support services branch. Cut my time down from 6 months to 1 to get clearance because of the massive backlog they had at the time.

Blaming procedures? That's the only line of defense you have for clearances....procedures. if you miss something that bites your as s later then you missed something and it should come back on you.

Not sure if you're familiar with how it works, but for my secret clearance they spoke to many family members and friends. For my FBI clearance for the MBI it was even more in depth. They came back with questions about things from when I was much younger that I had forgotten about.

They wouldn't know an intent to leak, but part of the background checks has to do with integrity and surely this wasn't the first time something like this had reared its head in her life.....while probably not a leak before, in her career in the military I would have to believe she screwed up somewhere along the way.


Vasa, then you can probably explain to me why many of these Top Secret contractor jobs do not require a polygraph. Very curious about that.




posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: DanteGaland

originally posted by: Granite

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: xuenchen




Odd pic to post. Top secret clearance, perhaps the screening qualifications need to be tinkered with a bit?


Looks like a transgender...


Or a woman who WORKS OUT in a gym.

Nice attempt at SLANDER.


He/she works out with Bruce Jenner and Bradley Manning?
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posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: queenofswords

Generally speaking, if one is not being cleared into SCI or SAP, you don't get a polygraph.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical




With those agencies as clients, it would seem to me that this company should do a good deal better job at vetting their employees.


You've probably worked in corporate America. So much of a position is who you know, your looks, what you say ( true or not), brown nosing and other BS.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: queenofswords

Generally speaking, if one is not being cleared into SCI or SAP, you don't get a polygraph.


Look at this job description and tell me what you think.

It is fully described HERE

Here is part of it:


Qualifications Required:

Security Clearance: TS

Special Access / Access Eligibility: SCI

Polygraph: None



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: queenofswords

Okay. Not every clearance requires a polygraph. I don't know what you're looking for with your question.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Fair enough.

I just replied with the first thought I had upon reading about it... Awww Fudge this bloody story will not go away.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: queenofswords

Okay. Not every clearance requires a polygraph. I don't know what you're looking for with your question.


I just find it odd that a job requiring a TS clearance for an intelligence-related job would not require a polygraph. People with SC can go "dirty" at any time, slip up, turn tail...you get the point.

I just wonder why a poly isn't standard for these types of positions.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: queenofswords

And people can beat polys and spend years giving up the names of agents in foreign countries. It's not a magic, silver bullet fix to the issue.

If you're looking as to the rhyme and reason why a particular agency elects to forego a poly during the investigation, you'd have to ask that particular agency.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:18 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: introvert

I haven't looked a lot into it, but it seems she publicly said whiteness is terrorism, sided with Iran (an enemy of the US), expressed hatred for Trump.

I could be wrong, but I bet if there were people in the intelligence community during Obamas years saying how evil they thought he was, I bet he would have wanted that person out.


Who cares what he would of wanted? You can't just fire people because of their personal political opinions they have outside of work.


What? Of course they can!

So if this woman sided with a foreign enemy publicly, the intelligence community just has to say "Well shoot, theres nothing we can do."

Do you really believe that? Wow.


How did she side with Iran? I've not see anything on that.

Be specific.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen Is that a Bernie Tat on her side? Can hillary be far behind her? Think she is first in a long line of leakers.




posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: introvert

I haven't looked a lot into it, but it seems she publicly said whiteness is terrorism, sided with Iran (an enemy of the US), expressed hatred for Trump.

I could be wrong, but I bet if there were people in the intelligence community during Obamas years saying how evil they thought he was, I bet he would have wanted that person out.


Who cares what he would of wanted? You can't just fire people because of their personal political opinions they have outside of work.


What? Of course they can!

So if this woman sided with a foreign enemy publicly, the intelligence community just has to say "Well shoot, theres nothing we can do."

Do you really believe that? Wow.


How did she side with Iran? I've not see anything on that.

Be specific.


Here is her tweet.

" Replying to @JZarif

There are many Americans protesting US govt aggression towards Iran. If our Tangerine in Chief declares war, we stand with you!
"

twitter.com...

We are not talking about a mom and po shop. The US intelligence community can let anyone go they feel may be a national security risk. Obama, Trump, and any other president, would have the right to revoke anyone clearance for publicly stating they hate the president.

Please show me the law that you are claiming shows she couldn't have been let go for these claims



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

I can agree that is not a smart thing to post to social media considering she works for a US sub-contractor.

Next question is, what exactly did she work on in which she needed this clearance? Did she work with materials in which a case could be made that she had foreign conflicts that would affect her work?



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
You have to wonder how a far left lunatic got security clearance. I would imagine the circumstances of her appointment and clearance will be of great interest to the DoJ. They should start with firing the person/people who hired her and gave her clearance - as they are either incompetent or part of the treason from within.


8 years under Obama and "far left lunatic" was mostly likely a requirement for the clearance...


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posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: Grambler
I tend to agree with you.
Snowden was a whole other kettle of fish.

At any rate the US should not be informing people they have a weak system; the voting and / or security being breached.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 02:00 PM
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originally posted by: iWontGiveUP
a reply to: roadgravel

Of which prob 3 years learning languages

Thats quite a feat!


...and now nothing but the waste of a life...by someone who could have likely done anything she put her mind to...



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 03:09 PM
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The government cannot fire a contractor.

They can request that the contracting company fire them, but that's about it.

Usually when there is a problem with a contractor, the contracting company just moves them somewhere else.

It takes a private contracting company thousands of dollars to do a TS/SCI on a prospect, which is why it is so easily to get hired if you had an active clearance while in the military, because they can just reinstate it if it is within the 5 year period before it expires.

I took me 5 months and 3 days to get my FBI TS/SCI, although I already had a active TS/SCI from the DoD.
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posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: RickinVa

But can't they revoke a clearance?



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 03:17 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: RickinVa

But can't they revoke a clearance?


I don't know about that..I have seen contractors escorted out of the premises before. They can easily suspend a government employees clearance, happens all the time.

My assumption would be that they would have to request the contracting company to pull it, but the company would most likely just move them to another location.

Never worked as a contractor although I have a few friends that still do.

EDIT: The one time I saw a contractor escorted out of the facility, he did not lose his job with the contracting company..they just moved him to a different location. It wasn't because of a clearance issue...it was because he kept dummy bullets in his cube and would write the names of people who pissed him off on them. A real weirdo.
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posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 03:40 PM
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it was because he kept dummy bullets in his cube and would write the names of people who pissed him off on them. A real weirdo.


Guess he got moved to the CIA wing and prep'ed for a false flag.




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