What is the Difference Between EVIDENCE and SMOKE ?.

a reply to: Lucidparadox

OK. Now we're getting somewhere. You're saying that SMOKE IS EVIDENCE. I don't know why none of the investigators can't bring themselves to say.. "YES" , when asked if they have "evidence". A suppose "hate" yields irrationality.

originally posted by: xstealth
Smoke is a desire for evidence.

You know the saying, blow smoke up your ass?

That's what can make it more powerful than evidence, if people are into that kinda thing.

Looked it up: www.urbandictionary.com...

You're talking about sucking up to someone...brown-nosing. No?

originally posted by: carewemust
You're talking about sucking up to someone...brown-nosing. No?

it means lying, the word smoke has been used for centuries as a synonym for deception.

It can also mean bragging, but most bragging is blowing smoke anyway.

a reply to: carewemust

I see smoke and mirrors.

a reply to: carewemust

It was supposed to bring people back to life and widely practiced in medicine circa 1700's

When Doctors Literally Blew Smoke Up Your Arse:

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

hahahaa I never knew that! Thanks for the chuckle.

No.

Everything you describe below is what is called very substantial, though circumstantial, EVIDENCE.

SMOKE, in this case, is simply rumors and whispers, with ZERO substance to them.

Try again.

originally posted by: Lucidparadox
It's really simple.

Smoke is "soft" evidence as opposed to hard evidence.

Hard evidence is finding the actual murder weapon, or a video of a person committing the murder.

"Smoke" is having a clear suspect, determining they have motive, determing they have the means... knowing they just bought a gun 24 hours before the murder... knowing the suspect has no alibi for the time of the murder... And having 6 character witnesses saying the suspect is violent and has said in the past he has intended to commit this murder...
That's what smoke is.. smoke is having everything except the 1 or 2 irrefutable things needed to feel completely comfortable prosecuting the case.

a reply to: carewemust

"Smoke" is what fair minded individuals call "circumstantial evidence." "Evidence" is what conspiracy theorists call "smoke."

What cracks me up about this whole thing is the exposure of the bias of the media and government alike.

In the 80s and 90s people connected to Clinton family crimes we're dropping dead left and right, and every time it was inconceivably hard to cover up they brought in the same coroner who ruled it a suicide when it isn't even possible. Media let it slide.
THAT'S some smoke.
Even given the evidence we already have on those murders, if the FBI were held to the standards of a citizen the whole agency would still be locked up.

Lots of smoke, no evidence.

Now we see the bias- they see smoke because they want to, but no evidence has come out- even though since the 90s these same spook created the ability to spy on every citizen, record every phone call, monitor every email.
Is there any question where this is going?
The men behind the curtain will never allow a public leader they can't control. They'll fabricate evidence soon enough. Probably already have, and they're spending time now creating connections that never existed to legitimize that fake evidence.
CIA/FBI/NSA are in on it, they're under control.
In an agency where secrecy and lack of information are the norm, you only need to compromise a few positions to turn the place into a puppet.

Such a mess.

Smoke is something that can be found associated with mirrors.
If that is all Warner and his party have, that is what they will be forced to go with.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: carewemust

It was supposed to bring people back to life and widely practiced in medicine circa 1700's

When Doctors Literally Blew Smoke Up Your Arse:

I guess if you were unconscious and some quack stuck a pipe up your butt and blew smoke into it.... that might tend to bring you around to your senses.

originally posted by: xstealth

originally posted by: carewemust
You're talking about sucking up to someone...brown-nosing. No?

it means lying, the word smoke has been used for centuries as a synonym for deception.

It can also mean bragging, but most bragging is blowing smoke anyway.

I think in this case..

We are looking at "smoke" in the frame of reference in the old saying..

"Where there is smoke, there's fire"

As many of you have now come to realize, mockingbird is real

And the buzz words are blatantly obvious to the enlightened

And it's WORKING TOO!!!

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: carewemust

"Smoke" is what fair minded individuals call "circumstantial evidence." "Evidence" is what conspiracy theorists call "smoke."

And there's neither "circumstantial evidence" nor "evidence" to support the loony leftist claims of Russian "collusion" with the Trump campaign.

Zero. Nada. Zip!

This whole thing comes apart a little more everyday -- hell, even Bill Clinton's wife is now blaming the Macedonians for her humiliating loss.

Zero evidence, deranged calls for "impeachment" based upon wishful thinking, and all the while the Left continues to Lose Big.

You blow smoke up a chicken's a** to make em hostile....
Something like what is done constantly by the DNC to the Dem Party
Get the similes ?

a reply to: D8Tee

You're welcome, .....only trying to bring some "real" facts in this day of "fake news" hahahaha

a reply to: SBMcG

Zero evidence, deranged calls for "impeachment" based upon wishful thinking, and all the while the Left continues to Lose Big.

Do you support a President who talks like Don Corleone? If what fired FBI Director Comey has said, under oath, is true, Trump threatened to fire him if he did not do what he asked. He did not do what he asked, obstruct justice, and was fired. You can tell it happened exactly the way Comey described because Trump used a typical liar's technique: denying something he was not accused of doing. Meanwhile, he refuses to say whether or not he has taped the conversation. If he had not, he would say so, don't you think? Every day looks worse and worse for him.

There is plenty of smoke in the Russia investigation - all of it is emanating from liberal asses. I have little doubt that at some point soon they will light themselves on fire.

a reply to: DJW001
Every day looks worse better and worse better for him.

Comey sure changed his tune after Trump tweeted that he might have tapes. Comey got played by Trump.

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: DJW001
Every day looks worse better and worse better for him.

Comey sure changed his tune after Trump tweeted that he might have tapes. Comey got played by Trump.

Trump still won't say whether or not he really has tapes. He has taken to the typical liar's ploy of denying something he was not accused of. (Comey never said Trump asked him to "swear an oath.") I'm sorry you continue to allow him to play you.