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Are you bound by partisan?

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posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 08:56 PM
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Oh ya?

Prove it.

Because I think you are..

But for once, I actually want to be wrong.

Why do I even think this?

Because I don't think there's a single thing that Trump could do that you would actually support or be in favor of.

Not a single thing.

If Trump supports something, you are against it.

If Trump is against something, you support it.

Trump could bring world peace and you would still find a reason to hate him.

Trump could save a bunch of kittens and you would still find a reason to deflect.

Context doesn't matter to you.

Real issues don't matter to you.

Only your pride and ego matters.

But you already knew this.

Right?

As long as it's Trump, you already have your preconceived notions and biases ready.

Because Trump is a bad boy right?

And bad boys can't do any good right?

You hated him before he became President.

And you'll hate him after he's done being the President.

If this isn't being bound by partisan.

What is?

You're so bound by partisan that you don't even realize it.

You're so used to disagreeing, that you will disagree with everything.

Even if it has nothing to do with Trump or politics.

You're even going to disagree with this thread.

Even though this is just my opinion.

But I actually want to be wrong this time.

So this is an open invitation to all of you.

One simple question.

Is there ANYTHING that Trump could do that would turn you into a supporter?

Thanks.







Oh and by the way, if your answer is no.

Well..





posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:03 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

I think both parties are crap.

I see it as Libertarian Vs. Authoritarian and sadly both parties are guilty of trying to control us and take away our liberty.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:05 PM
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No. Final answer.

My post and thread history is my evidence.


As a side, we need more parties and better representation!



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:05 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

The sure-fire way to end the hatred for him is to get rid of his twitter. These people are spellbound, so addicted to it, that only cold turkey will break that cycle. They would say deleting his Twitter is an attack on freedom of the press, and they would protest for a while, but it wouldn't be long before their lives got back to normal.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:07 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

I am totally against Trump and have been from the start. I think he's the worst person for that position ever.

I'm Liberal mostly but not a Democrat and I hate Hillary too.

But I did support Trumps "Buy American, Hire American" thing he was trying. It ended up being fairly ineffectual and won't accomplish much because it needs more power behind it to change anything. But I totally supported that idea.

There are a couple others I liked too. Like his No-TPP stance.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:12 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

So, Trump, huh?



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:12 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

I didn't vote for Trump but support him now that he is my President. I like a few things he did, dislike some, and don't know enough about some to judge them. His personality and his defensiveness make him very unlikeable. I don't consider myself liberal, certainly not a democrat, but I don't think most liberal people are that way. There were many Rep's that behaved similarly toward Obama, my brother being one of them.

Whatever attributes one addresses toward the other side, there are as many on your side with the same attributes, IMHO.

I also agree with Metallicaus, both parties are crap.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:19 PM
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a reply to: TobyFlenderson

I agree with Metallicus as well.

Both sides are crappy but the extreme left and anti-Trumpers are a different level imo.

I feel like a political paradox, I'm a liberal Trump defender that doesn't stand on either side, and contrary to popular belief, if I'm wrong about Trump I wouldn't think twice about condemning him. He hasn't given me any reason to do so, so I'll continue to defend the possibility that he is in fact genuine.
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posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:20 PM
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No.
I am not bound at all.
I was a democrat, I am now registered as Independent.
I think Trump is met with unfair criticism every, single day.
And I try to point it out when I see it.
I am not a Trump supporter, but I do like the ideas and values this country was founded on.
I think Trump does do.
I don't think the leftist-liberals who seem to have taken over the democratic party do.
I think they want socialism. I don't want socialism.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

I think the overwhelming majority of people in the country who did not vote for him feel the same way. The press hate him and will continue to over-hype any story that continues to feed the divide. I'd also say on a site like this that many people become super defensive of their position when they feel they're being attacked. I've had a lot of situations on this site that, when addressing someone politely they become reasonable. I've also had any type of negativity to the "right" perspective lead to immediate name calling such as SJW and libtard, etc. So both sides are equally responsible in my opinion.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

There's a saying I like. Not sure who said it.

"If you and another agree 100%, then one of you isn't doing any thinking."



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986


Okay, If you want my opinion or support can you include a list of Trump's accomplishments that are benefiting or will

benefit ALL Americans, from the poorest all the way to the richest. Show me those things and I will gladly support

him on those issues. And, if you come up with any, please explain why they help everyone so I can understand

completely.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: Tompdx3

The whole point of the thread was for YOU to come up with something that would make YOU support him.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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The worst invention in the history of politics are political parties.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: TobyFlenderson

I agree with Metallicus as well.

Both sides are crappy but the extreme left and anti-Trumpers are a different level imo.

I feel like a political paradox, I'm a liberal Trump defender that doesn't stand on either side, and contrary to popular belief, if I'm wrong about Trump I wouldn't think twice about condemning him. He hasn't given me any reason to do so, so I'll continue to defend the possibility that he is in fact genuine.


I could not have said it better myself knowledgehunter!

What concerns me the most about the left is not their hatred for Trump, it is their indoctrination into the NWO that has become blatantly apparent. With Trump it has accelerated to a scary level.

I remember being on the same side as the left during occupy wallstreet and at that time they all understood the dangers of the banksters and their agenda. Back then the right could not see it in any way shape of form and fell for the opposite indoctrination.

Trump throwing out the TPP, exiting the Paris Agreement and thus far avoiding war with Russia,are some of my favorites. Add to that firing Comey, enforcing illegal immigration laws and eviscerating the MSM's hypnotic hold over those who can see are also up there.

I disagree with his support of Israel and Saudi Arabia, I do not care for the air strike against Syria based on an obvious false flag, I also am highly suspicious of the Goldman Sach scumbags around him.

Regardless, we needed a change and I am forever grateful to not be stuck with the Clinton Cabal running the show and their deeds never standing a chance of being exposed, the metric for whether or not I will believe Trump is genuine is that network will be taken down.
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posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:53 PM
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Not selling weapons to terrorists would be one, another would be if he got off of Twitter. Those are two things I would support, one is already out of the question and the other doesn't look like it'll happen anytime soon so at this point Trump hasn't done anything I like other than getting out of the TPP.

So far Trump hasn't been very effective at anything other than signing weapons deals and pushing people's buttons.

Can I ask what he would have to do for you to drop support of him?
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posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:54 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

There's a saying I like. Not sure who said it.

"If you and another agree 100%, then one of you isn't doing any thinking."


I agree with you 100%

Where do we go from here?



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:56 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Where ever you say!



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:58 PM
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a reply to: elementalgrove

Right? How anyone can support the elite left is mind boggling.

Can Trump be apart of the same team? Sure, but we don't know for certain.

The elite left we know for CERTAIN.

How do you not take the chance? What is there to lose?

If we are wrong, you lose anyways..

If nothing else mattered, just knowing what the elite left are is enough for me to be against them and support their opposition.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

I always considered myself independent. I find myself leaning more to the right. Obama went too far to the left to fast. Now I fear Trump is going to far to the right. It could cause a backlash. Only having political parties that are the extreme of both sides is a severe problem for most of America.

I supported Trump and still do. I don't like the strong military stance or the hard line taken by the DOJ. Somethings I don't like I think he kinda has no choice...a problem most presidents have.

That said...he makes huge mistakes with his twitter and has put his own neck in a noose with his tweets.




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