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originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: EvillerBob
Lol I'd prefer more constables and scrap PCSO's as well.
Last time I was arrested I'd floored a prick security guard and two PCSO'S tried to detain me but backed off when I told them to go # themselves until a warrant carrying officer arrived.
Constables arrived and chuckled because I only recognised their authority.
Got released no further action an hour or so later.
originally posted by: EvillerBob
I'm assuming from the reference to "security guard" that they suspected you of shoplifting, which is now specifically included in the definition of "indictable offence" necessary to perform a citizen's arrest under PACE. If so, they would now certainly have the legal power to arrest you! It's likely that they had the power back then, as well, though it would have been through a slightly different route.
Someone serious lads all around the country are getting very, very angry about all this and regardless of who is in Westminster after Thursday they expect to see real action taken rather than just the usual empty political rhetoric.
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originally posted by: fleabit
People always seem to claim that armed citizens will stop crime. But does it? Not really. Did it save anyone in Florida when a disgruntled worker killed 5 employees and then himself? Nope. Did it save anyone when a crazed lunatic raided a gay bar? Nope. There is quite a long list of tragedies were concealed gun laws utterly failed to make a difference. The only time you hear about how the glory of armed citizens stops crime in its tracks, is the rare story of an armed home owner shooting a burglar. Those often gets dozens of pages of responses here.. as if those rare occurrences totally justify guns.