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Oath Keepers are on the ground to assist with security at today’s (June 4th) Free Speech Rally in Portland, OR.
originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: xuenchen
Are the masked people the skinheads or the counter-protester antifa types?
Kinda funny how it's getting hard to tell them apart.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: xuenchen
Are the masked people the skinheads or the counter-protester antifa types?
Kinda funny how it's getting hard to tell them apart.
The masked people who show up to these things are usually the "anarchists". From the ones I've met, they seem to mostly be libertarian hipsters who don't really care what they are protesting, as long as they can cause some chaos.
The rest are either hard-right (the rally folk) or anti-hate (the protesters). Ironically, the most politically middle-of-the-road types that show up to Portland protests are those freakin' libertarian anarchists. Nobody likes them but they cling on to whoever is one the "resisting" side (protesters) who are normally of leftist bent thus the leftist label gets applied to them, as well.
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: xuenchen
Are the masked people the skinheads or the counter-protester antifa types?
Kinda funny how it's getting hard to tell them apart.
The masked people who show up to these things are usually the "anarchists". From the ones I've met, they seem to mostly be libertarian hipsters who don't really care what they are protesting, as long as they can cause some chaos.
The rest are either hard-right (the rally folk) or anti-hate (the protesters). Ironically, the most politically middle-of-the-road types that show up to Portland protests are those freakin' libertarian anarchists. Nobody likes them but they cling on to whoever is one the "resisting" side (protesters) who are normally of leftist bent thus the leftist label gets applied to them, as well.
So you criticize labeling antifa as left, yet call all of the rally attendees hard right? Define hard right?
What does anti hate mean btw? Does that include yelling all cops are b*******? Can you point out the anti hate people on the video as opposed to those with antifa?
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: xuenchen
Are the masked people the skinheads or the counter-protester antifa types?
Kinda funny how it's getting hard to tell them apart.
The masked people who show up to these things are usually the "anarchists". From the ones I've met, they seem to mostly be libertarian hipsters who don't really care what they are protesting, as long as they can cause some chaos.
The rest are either hard-right (the rally folk) or anti-hate (the protesters). Ironically, the most politically middle-of-the-road types that show up to Portland protests are those freakin' libertarian anarchists. Nobody likes them but they cling on to whoever is one the "resisting" side (protesters) who are normally of leftist bent thus the leftist label gets applied to them, as well.
So you criticize labeling antifa as left, yet call all of the rally attendees hard right? Define hard right?
What does anti hate mean btw? Does that include yelling all cops are b*******? Can you point out the anti hate people on the video as opposed to those with antifa?
Stop putting words in my mouth today. I criticized nothing. I explained why there is a connection (I know some of those masked people and they aren't politically aligned with most liberals I know). I wasn't judging.
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: Grambler
I haven't watched it yet. I'm in domestic princess mode right now, chatting between chores.
The content of this particular rally isn't the offense. It's the fact they held it knowing what an influence they had on that terrorist.
originally posted by: Ksihkehe
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: Grambler
I haven't watched it yet. I'm in domestic princess mode right now, chatting between chores.
The content of this particular rally isn't the offense. It's the fact they held it knowing what an influence they had on that terrorist.
What hogwash. No matter when they held the rally there would be protests.
I'm so sick of worthless rally/counter-protest events. The people running both sides should just plan them together at this point. Without each other to feed on the press dries up. The press only attends because they hope these events turn violent.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Ksihkehe
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: Grambler
I haven't watched it yet. I'm in domestic princess mode right now, chatting between chores.
The content of this particular rally isn't the offense. It's the fact they held it knowing what an influence they had on that terrorist.
What hogwash. No matter when they held the rally there would be protests.
I'm so sick of worthless rally/counter-protest events. The people running both sides should just plan them together at this point. Without each other to feed on the press dries up. The press only attends because they hope these events turn violent.
Of course there would be protests. Because we don't like that sort of extremism here. The speaker said, leading up to this rally, that it's "open season on antifa". Why would any liberal-minded populace think it's a great idea to have their kind of rhetoric spewed on our public shared-space?
But this one is purposefully insensitive and intentionally aggressive. They came here to pick a fight and rub salt in wounds, knowing they could have rescheduled but didn't.
So yes, it would have been protested under normal circumstances but no, people like me who are not activists wouldn't be getting involved like they are today. People are sad, hurt, and angry. This rally is seen as nothing more than a giant middle finger to those still grieving.