The Green Conspiracie; Big Wind and The Big Hard Sun

Best way to sell a scam is with noble notions and projections of do gooder works for the greater good. Social Security was sold that way to provide the american working man with a safety net. It was sold as insurance. But politics, corruption and the ever expanding list of those that qualify has long ago changed Social Security into something really unrecognizable from its original sales brochure.

Early warning signals in the Governments activities surrounding tax funding and subsidies of manufacture, installation, promotion and sales shows it to be a huge boondoggle that in most cases is openly sold by proponents for its redeeming virtue as a tool for redistribution of wealth. Yes the big green machine is now openly being sold as a big green machine.

This redistribution is thought by key proponents as a way to fix years of wealth inequality, economic inequality and so even the big old batch of social inequalities ad nauseum.

Don't anyone be fooled. Folks are seeing themselves getting wealthy off this and are not really concerned about any sort of trickle down justice, money or environment savings. This is the real cause of the uproar of late. Case in point, under programs during the Obama administration, the government was paying "salesmen" 100,000 grand a year to sell Green Tech like solar panels. "Salesmen" didn't have to show results but only log drop in visits to potential customers. Note these were not industry paid positions. All this is simply the tip of Ice Burge of the huge sums the government has been redistributing for almost zero return. Its clear redistribution or really theft was and is always the main goal of these programs.

It's going to suck if you guys end up being wrong and global warming actually is a thing.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1


It would help if prophets and preachers of GW and folks getting in a fix over the US pullout were not so obviously money hungry clepto-crats.

a reply to: Logarock

1)No it is not.. the best way to sell a scam is pretend it is more profitable...

No corporation is stopping or starting doing anything drastic because it is "best for society.."

But they will change on a dime for more profit..



2) Also wouldn't you need to be a crazy big entity with limitless resources to perpetrate something like this???

Because solar and wind are fledgling industries.. not longstanding monoliths like OPEC and Dow chemical.. those have the resources to influence almost anything ..and they do on a daily basis..

So how do we get an illuminati type conspiracy from the new guys on the block??


3) if it is some illuminati stuff where they run the media, government and scientific communities, as this particular conspiracy requires.. then your not pulling off a crazy convoluted and expensive tax sceme.. you would just print more money..

Faking climate change would require billions of dollars.. printing more money would take a handful of guys.

a reply to: JoshuaCox


Oh ye they are making it sound more profitable. I touch on that in op. LOL


And the wind industry new or not.......what is not new is the technology. It is very inefficient and that has been known about the big wind turbines.

Big money smart money says let the alt electric generation fill what it can but forget making it an end all. wow would your electric bills go sky high if it were all solar disk and wind.

a reply to: Logarock

But period .. that is not the best way to scam some one as you stated..and the profitability argument as you mentioned is not the primary one..

In fact it is the opposite.. it is more expensive short term to convert everything.. more profitable doesn't come till the inferstrcture is complete.

a reply to: JoshuaCox


No many of the leaders of the Green Movement are certainly now turning it into a branch of the social justice, oppressed cultures ect movement. Which means as I stated that money will flow away from coal to regular folks for one way in lower costs, more fair costs. The idea is to remove the wealth bearing potential of energy from the likes of big coal to the humanitarian and earth loving Green Industry.

As for the other all you need to watch is the way millions are made here and there on feeding the poor and the like. Feel good always sells and the Green Wave has plenty of that to go around. You just don't know what you are talking about.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
It's going to suck if you guys end up being wrong and global warming actually is a thing.

So many of the people adamant that climate change is the biggest deal in gthe world also happen to mock religion.

Ironic then that they make these types of claims that you better hope you are not wrong, for that is the exact same type of rhetoric they criticize the religious for using.

a reply to: Logarock

If you get rid of social security we will have riots in every city. Don't eff with Social Security

a reply to: dfnj2015


Makes my point really. If it had stayed true to form, true to its original intent rather than a pacification tool there wouldn't be these issues raised around SS.


Same dam things going to happen with going Green Crazy and riding the Green Wave. Subsidizing and creating an entire industry outside of real market demand for it.

a reply to: Logarock

There is no free market...

Everything is taxed, or regulated or subsidized.. everything.. and all at different rates..

Oil and natural gas has been subsidized the entire time..

A free market is a myth that has never even existed.. there has always been some one arbitrarily deciding what things are worth and how much they can gouge for..



Money is an illusion and ALWAYS Has been.

There is no wealth baring potential in oil that doesn't exist in solar and wind???

It would be long term more profitable and create more jobs BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CONSTRUCT A WHOLE NEW INFASTRUCTURE..

So where is this mysterious oil wealth coming from??

A handful of people have the rights, and all pipeline jobs are very short term.. once installed you only need like 2 guys every hundred miles and a crew to preform dig ups that you can send where needed..



None of your stuff makes any sense..

supposedly the new guy (solar) is running a conspiracy on the old money oil companies?!?!

That's hilarious..

Supposedly it is to steal tax dollars, when any group that controls the government, media and scientific communities, could just print money.. no need to run convoluted tax schemes..

The math involved doesn't work..


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a reply to: JoshuaCox


Your to dam stupid to figure it out anyway.