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Kathy Griffin Bill Maher and Obama in a Noose

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posted on Jun, 4 2017 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: PistolPete
a reply to: Ksihkehe

Who the # is bill? Clinton? What in the world does he have to do with this at all? Jesus.


I figured you could do the math on what Bill I was talking about since you mentioned somebody named Bill in the thread title and the OP. I'll include pictures next time so it isn't so terribly difficult for you to accomplish the daunting task of matching names to your thread title and OP.

Just to be clear you did manage to figure out which Kathy I was talking about right? Was there any confusion about what free internet forum I was talking about?




posted on Jun, 4 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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Griffin and Mahar are the evidence of the Left flushing themselves down the toilet, only this time it's for real no floaters will be left behind.
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posted on Jun, 4 2017 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: SRPrime

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: PistolPete

It seems racism is a touchy subject. From my perspective as a 40yo native American/irishman, people choose to be offended by certain things. It gives them a way to rationalize why they haven't gotten a little further up the pyramid and justifies why they don't try harder to better themselves. It's easier to just say "so and so is keeping me from achieving my dreams". Which has somehow become expensive clothes, fancy cars, diamonds, and maybe a yacht. They have no idea how to get those things and the only people they see with these things are actors, musicians, and athletes. Doctors and lawyers don't show off their homes. All children of every color want to become an entertainer instead of a scientist. Probably because it's a lot easier to have opinions than it is to design and build things that work.

Racism is an easy enemy and an easy excuse for some people to focus on. Of course racism exists, they are easy to define teams, and that is what people do. Pick teams and compete. With racism, you compete with who can get the most offended. All it takes is a word or a picture and they feel attacked and angry. They are more worried about who's holding them back instead of how to move forward in their own life. Who cares if someone wants to make an effigy of the president. Let those folks waste their time. If people just focused on their own path, they would barely notice those who they are leaving in the dust. instead of working towards equality (equal opportunity), these children demand equity (equal outcomes). They want things they haven't earned. Really this all about money/opportunity, and not the color of your skin. Money gives people better opportunities. Money gets you those clothes and cars. Money doesn't come with the color of your skin and niether does opportunity. It comes from treating the world as it is. A competition. Work harder than those around you to be a useful person and you will propell yourself up that ladder. No matter what racists do to stop you.

Well, we do live in a system that dole's out exorbitant amount's of money to those who do not earn it. Actors, musicians, athlete's, to name a few. But this system is this way because people choose to buy their products. They choose to go to these concerts and games, buy the t-shirts, spend time thinking and talking and reading the stories.

Lazy people of all colors don't make it very far and motivated people of all colors still make it farther than the lazy ones.
If i feel someone is keeping me from attaining some goal, i outsmart and outperform them. I don't cry racism.


This is probably the most intelligent post I've ever read about motivations and rationalization. If people haven't noticed; it doesn't matter the color of your skin; it matters your economic class. The poorer you are; the harder it is because the climb to the optimal position is further. White/Black/Yellow/Red/Purple/Pink/Cycan doesn't matter; what matters is how you present yourself and the decisions you make to navigate the ladder. There will always be opposition; you move up the ladder by conquering that opposition, not by calling foul that you're opposed and trying to take things you didn't earn through the use of imaginary infraction.

This is the entire basis of the age old argument for reparations. My family never owned slaves but for some reason I'm supposed to surrender my hard earned wage to those of color who never were slaves because supposedly "whites" enslaved their ancestors???

HOKAY. That makes ZERO kinds of sense. Nobody is ever responsible for the actions of other people; even if you're related. Should we imprison Dahmers relatives just because he ate people? Should they be paying infinite restitution to the surviving family members of the people the Jeff ended even though they had nothing to do with Jeff ending those people?

Get real. I'm only responsible for me and my actions and that's that. With that said; is there racists? Yes; is anyone not on the receiving end of racism? No. There are black racists that infringe on whites, there are white racists that infringe on blacks, there are blacks that infringe on blacks, and whites that infringe on whites and every other combination of race related hate. Just look at the holocaust as a prime example. Hate is part of the world and navigating it is part of the triumph and it affects everybody equally.

I don't think intrinsically anybody hates anybody based on the color of their skin; I think intrinsically it's a hate of a stereo type. Uneducated black drug dealer ghetto gangsters are no different than uneducated white drug dealer trailer park gangsters. If you present or identify as that; that's what people aren't liking. Anything else is a small subset or brainwashing and to literally undo that brainwashing; you have to show them that you're not what they think you are; further reinforcing that you are exactly what they think you are is not how you fix it.

In other words; you don't win against a racist by fighting them; you win against them by hugging them and proving that you're an asset and maybe even worth more than others. Dr. Martin Luther King's entire point was that you cannot fight hate with hate, you conquer hate with love and community effort. The value of a person is not dependent upon their skin color; it's dependent upon their action and inaction.
Thanks for your supportive words and i'd like to say that you make some more good points. Hardcore racists hate everybody except those in their general group. Just like fundy christians, fundy muslims, fundy lgbt, fundy fems, fundy atheists. Why can't we just agree that every demographic has ass holes, and we all hate ass holes. It's ok to hate ass holes, nobody will protest if you hate ass holes. Then we can deal with why these folks are ass holes.
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Anyone who walks around with a tortured effigy of anyone is an ass hole

But most importantly, we have all been an ass hole at some point, so do we all deserve a little hatred pointed at us?
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posted on Jun, 4 2017 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: Painterz
The difference is Kathy Griffin wasn't seriously suggesting Trump should have his head cut off.

But the people throwing the lynch Obama noose stuff around actually were seriously suggesting he should be hung.


Were they? You can prove that?

What about the fine folks in the photos with the Bush-in-a-Noose? Can you prove they weren't serious about it? If not, then it's still a double standard because I don't recall any issues with that. It was just "free speech" at the time. They have that mysterious right to protest that only the left seems to have in those occasions.



posted on Jun, 4 2017 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: PistolPete

It is to me.

I understand that opinions may vary on that. He certainly is welcome to say it, I don't think he should...but, y'know--that whole Free Speech thingee. 'course, that leaves me free to say what I think of his speech patterns and choice of phrases. They suck.



posted on Jun, 4 2017 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver
Anyone who walks around with a tortured effigy of anyone is an ass hole

But most importantly, we have all been an ass hole at some point, so do we all deserve a little hatred pointed at us?

Speak for yourself, I never walked around with a tortured effigy.



posted on Jun, 4 2017 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: PistolPete After a headline like that i was expecting to see photos what a disappointment. Liberalism is a mental disorder - Pack up those turds and send them to Venezuela for a first hand look at what socialism does to a nation.




posted on Jun, 4 2017 @ 01:06 PM
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bill mahar shows are only on HBO, where movies use the n-word, and....bill and guests use the f-word. I'm a democrat, and Kathy went waaaaaay too far and I'm glad she was condemned for it, and is going to lose a ton of money, she should, period....by the way bill has used that word on his show before...and then bringing Obama's name into it?.....c'mon, the fact that the OP ties them all into one neat bow is stupid



posted on Jun, 4 2017 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Woodcarver
Anyone who walks around with a tortured effigy of anyone is an ass hole

But most importantly, we have all been an ass hole at some point, so do we all deserve a little hatred pointed at us?

Speak for yourself, I never walked around with a tortured effigy.
I didn't say you had. I was reffering to those who have. I would have thought that was appherent.

I would assume not all ass holes have walked around with someone in a noose.



posted on Jun, 4 2017 @ 02:56 PM
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Look. I am not ever going to be one walking around with a president hanging in effigy unless I mean real business, and I hope it never, ever comes to that.

However this back and forth over the subject is stupid.

Either you can walk around with the president in a noose or you can't. It shouldn't matter whether that president is a (D) or (R) and it shouldn't matter whether he or she is black, white, gay, or purple with green spots. You cannot conclude that it is perfectly acceptable to walk around with one president in a noose as a means of expressing oneself and then decide that it is a terrible and unacceptable thing for someone else to walk around with the very next president in a noose, and it's even worse if you only do this because you liked one president and not the other.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 03:00 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

My schedule doesn't always allow me to follow everything through here. This was a great response.

I was duck hunting last fall and we caught a flock of 28 and were able to put down 27 of them. That last one that wasn't hit flew around lost and looked for it's friends for an hour dodging our pot-shots. It was so confused. Everything it knew suddenly ended.

I had empathy for that mallard like he lived through a terrorist attack. I welled up for it.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 04:02 AM
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a reply to: Ksihkehe

Fair enough on that one. That was a long night.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: PistolPete
a reply to: Ksihkehe

Fair enough on that one. That was a long night.


I gave you a star for that. Most people would have never come back to acknowledge it.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 11:09 PM
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originally posted by: kurthall

originally posted by: Illumimasontruth
Title is very misleading, I was expecting a dream come true here.


WOW JUST WOW!!!! FREAKING IGNORANT!!! You show your true colors!!!
Glad I triggered you. These Demons are...Well, Demons. Heartless Demons should get wtf they deserve. Enjoy your special place along side the trash you apparently stick up for. I hope I never feel the need to interact with you again. May you have a place right beside them in the afterlife...



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