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The Islamic Terror Solution

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posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

Christianity is not actively involved in a Holy War. It's a war. But there is nothing "Holy" about it. You missed the point.




posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 08:45 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
The demonization of Islam is the excuse for escalation, just like the Nazis used the Jews as their excuse.


Jews weren't just an excuse. A small minority of Jews were creating mayhem in the same way a small minority of muslims are doing now. So sad 6 million suffered for the actions of that small political group intent on turning Europe socialist. We must make sure the actions of a few don't result in a genocide again.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 08:49 AM
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A small minority of Jews were creating mayhem in the same way a small minority of muslims are doing now.


Were they?

Please provide links to credible sources.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 08:51 AM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: intrptr

Christianity is not actively involved in a Holy War. It's a war. But there is nothing "Holy" about it. You missed the point.


No I didn't. I was raised in "Churchianity", I know what time it is. At the core of that and most other major organized religious belief systems is the notion their God is the one true God and all others are false or 'of the devil'.

You know that as well as I. Even if most people don't profess to be christian, it doesn't matter. The whole ethos of conquering and subjugating these other nations is based on religious grounds, i.e., the mass media is programming everyone to think the war on terror is caused by religious fanatics on their side.

Thats easer to accept as a false pretext, after all, they're 'religious fanatics', right?

Muslim Extremists, Islamic Jihadists, Terrorists, all terminology to mass mind meld the most of the people. I already established this is exactly the pattern used by Nazis to begin their wars of conquest (by blaming Jews).

And if not acceptable, review the history of religious opposition in the world. Hindus vs Hindu Sikhs, Jews vs. arabs. Christians vs' arabs, (Crusades), Irish catholics, vs, English Protestants, etc, etc. History is rife with bitter examples of this, looking back.

It is the same today, obviously.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: Freeborn

Jews were behind most of the communist groups in central and eastern Europe, WAY out of their demographic. It's just a fact. The USSR was set up by Jews and the ideas behind that revolution were Jewish via Marx. Whetehr Germany, Hungary, Poland, Communism was the real fear of the West and this was intertwined with the Jews.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: intrptr
The demonization of Islam is the excuse for escalation, just like the Nazis used the Jews as their excuse.


Jews weren't just an excuse. A small minority of Jews were creating mayhem in the same way a small minority of muslims are doing now. So sad 6 million suffered for the actions of that small political group intent on turning Europe socialist. We must make sure the actions of a few don't result in a genocide again.

I think you will find as well as scapegoating the Jews of Europe were the most wealthy as a whole and made ripe pickings once the whole program of the Nazi 'final solution' got rolling. Besides the Jews had large populations everywhere they tended to conquer, at the bottom of it the Nazis were just greedy.

Hey imagine that, we all know at the bottom of it today the conquest of the ME nations is primarily about oil and other minerals resources...

That whole religious, democracy and humanitarian thing is only a ruse.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

Look. Jihadi muslims want Christians to die. Christians want Jihadi muslims to leave them the **** alone.
If that's a Holy war to you, fine.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

Yeah sure, I agree with everything there. There was a massivegroup to loot from. After the Jews were gone then the Orthodox were next, but the Russians were finishing the Nazis before they got to that point.

At the same time, there can be no doubt whatsoever that a VERY small minority of Jews (just like a very smaall minority of Muslims) were creating mayhem in central and eastern Europe. Revolutionary activities everywhere, largely Jews were behind these acts.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:06 AM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: intrptr

Look. Jihadi muslims want Christians to die. Christians want Jihadi muslims to leave them the **** alone.
If that's a Holy war to you, fine.


Pretty funny, leave us alone. Who started bombing, invading and occupying the the others homelands, first?

Sorry angeldoll, I think you mean well, but history paints a different picture than the one we are told about western meddling in Middle Eastern affairs. The object is to control the region and secure the resources, the excuse is conflicting ideology, painting them as evil, thus dehumanizing them, making it easer to accept the waging of unjust war.

You will notice that main stream news goes on and on about Islamic terrorism but never mentions oil.

Ever...



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:06 AM
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I have certainly suspicions about the Rothschilds.
I'm also aware of Jewish influence on Communism etc.

But I'm not too sure that any of them were the primary instigators of Hitler's hatred of Jews.
And like it or not Hitler and his cronies hatred of Jews and their ideas of racial superiority were the primary causes of The Holocaust.

To blame The Holocaust on socialist Jews is a stretch too far.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:10 AM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: intrptr

Yeah sure, I agree with everything there. There was a massivegroup to loot from. After the Jews were gone then the Orthodox were next, but the Russians were finishing the Nazis before they got to that point.

At the same time, there can be no doubt whatsoever that a VERY small minority of Jews (just like a very smaall minority of Muslims) were creating mayhem in central and eastern Europe. Revolutionary activities everywhere, largely Jews were behind these acts.

About that second part, Freeborn already asked you to provide some more info about that up the page. I would like to review whatever you have on that, too. I might agree that prior to WWII, the wealth of European jews was influential to European affairs, but thats not what you are saying I think.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:14 AM
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National Socialism and Communism were at odds big time. Whichever way you look at it Jews were the driving force behind Communism and became the enemy. I agree that there were other driving issues fo the Nazis but for the 'man in the street' Jews were creating havoc on the old system and they were up for fighting this threat to the capitalist system. Jews/Communism were the same in the eyes of the average German Christians.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:17 AM
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Hitler used scapegoating whenever and where ever it was suitable. The Jews, Communists, later Gypsies, seventh day adventists, etc.

As the hate ball gets rolling all differences from an ideological perspective become suspect and eventually, enemies of the state. Hate grows, takes on a force of its own.

Adding to the list any dissenters, Partisans (what we call terrorists) all blamed or justified as enemies, even though none of the top Nazi Hierarchy were blond hair and blue eyed, "Aryans". Hitler, Goebbles, Goerring, Himmler, far from the ideal "Superman", It was a false ideology and they knew it, too.

Shows the power of propaganda and the influence of the Press.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:18 AM
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Jews were the driving froce bebehing Communism. It's just a fact. I'm at work so research is a little tricky
, but it's just a fact. Ok just off memory the Communist threat within.......................... Rosa Luxemburg



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:20 AM
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National Socialism and Communism were at odds big time.

They were the same. The conflict arose from trying to be on top.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:21 AM
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I'd say it was more likely that it was the perceived Jewish control of the banking system in Germany and their influence on the Arts that fuelled Hitler's personal hatred of Jews.
He'd been refused admittance into Art Academies etc and blamed that on Jewish influence in academia, was absolutely potless and saw Jewish wealth and 'greed' all around him.

And bear in mind Jews had been made the scapegoat all over Europe for centuries prior to Hitler and the emergence of the Nazi's.

And there is no way you can compare current Islamic extremism and terrorism with Jewish activities just prior to WWII...unless you actually can provide links to any sort of credible source material to back up your claim.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:21 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: ufoorbhunter


National Socialism and Communism were at odds big time.

They were the same. The conflict arose from trying to be on top.


Hahaha now were getting conspiracy like
Sort of true but totally different in other ways.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: ufoorbhunter


National Socialism and Communism were at odds big time.

They were the same. The conflict arose from trying to be on top.


Hahaha now were getting conspiracy like
Sort of true but totally different in other ways.


Different in name only.

USSR -- stood for United Soviet Socialist Republic.

NSDAP -- (translated) stood or National Socialist Democratic Workers Party.

See it? Both claiming to be social, worker, people, oriented but really, everything was 'nationalized' (controlled at the top). The people are used as servants or outright slaves to further the wealth and ambition of the ruling elite.

Whats become wrong wth out country today, too.



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

And there is no way you can compare current Islamic extremism and terrorism with Jewish activities just prior to WWII...unless you actually can provide links to any sort of credible source material to back up your claim.



If I had the time I could but I'm working hands on in an engineering plant making stuff. Look it's just a fact, Jews were seen by Germans as a MASSIVE threat and there was a fair chance that communism was going to take over Germany in the 30's and the Prussian backbone in society were terrified of losing their proerty. It's just a fact. You know even in the Polish partition, the east of Poland was taken by the Soviets. My Polish extract landlord who's family made it out via Siberia told me that when the Soviets arrived they Jewish largely NKVD and killed his grandfather on the spot Shot hime dead as he was a landowner. The Communists were taking hold of all of Europe at that time. There was a reason the Brits never bombed the railway lines to Aushwitz they were terrified like everybody at that time of Jewish revolutionaries creating mayhem. Whereever you look Jews were creating revolution, it's just a fact! I'm no anti sem btw and if I can save the dosh will be staing at the Savoy Geula TLV this Chrimbo hols, I just understand that it takes two to tango and the Jews of eastern Europe were creating mayhem and just like the Muslims were migrating to central and eastern Europe on mass and this terrirfied the west................ Jews = Bolsheviks



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 09:33 AM
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It's such an interesting phenomena ; humans suffer from collective cognitive dissonance en masse.




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