posted on Jun, 4 2017 @ 01:23 PM
a reply to: face23785
The sheer number that daren't speak out is the problem.
You have to understand how their culture works. Its a shocking gossip & honour culture with women sad to say, being the driving force. They rule the
home wiht an iron fist and bring up the children entirely alone so any problems with the kids are usually ONLY down to the mothers, the men are just
the breadwinners. They have nothing else to do all day except gossip. They are constantly having to prove themselves as not being 2nd class citizens
and prove themselves to other Muslim women. There is competition in these communities for who can be the most pious. These attacks are not just male
machismo. Behind every attack to date there have been women and women arrested. When it comes to honour killing its often the women that scream
loudest for it. Many times the women do the killing of their own daughters. They see it as right and protecting the family honour and it raises them
(they believe) in the eyes of the men and God of course.
I'll give you an example
I once worked for an Asian Charity in Bradford for people straight off the boat. We had to teach them English and our customs etc. All were men. Women
weren't allowed to attend because they might be led astray. I befriended one of the young secretaries by the name of Kalsoom. I felt sorry for her
because she was disabled and beaten regularly as a disgrace to her family. At one point they were going to ship her back to Pakistan to be married but
they couldn't find a husband because of Kalsooms' leg & hip disability. She was a slave in her own home basically and would be up till all hours doing
the housework and looking after the younger children.
During the Eid celebration she invited me to her house in one of the most densely Pakistani areas of Bradford. I remember walking down the street in
Manningham with my 2 children on a lovely sunny morning and no word of a lie everyone on the street just stopped and stared. The women started
pointing and whispering, the kids ran back inside and the women waited to see where I was going. When I knocked on the door of Kalsoom's house, her
father answered and was totally shocked but let me in. Kalsoom took me into the front room which was clearly only used for guests or special occasions
and I was left there with my children for 1.5hrs whilst massive arguments ensued in the kitchen. Kalsoom finally re-appeared with a glass of water and
asked if I wouldn't mind leaving. Her parents were going ballistic that she had invited a kufir into the house. What they were more angry and afraid
of though was the fact I'd been seen going into their house. The mother never even came into the room to say hello...the father left the house...and I
was told to leave. Kalsoom didn't come to work for 2 days and when she did she was beaten black & blue in revenge for what she had done. She
apologised to me but said we could never be friends and said she was lucky her mother didn't have her killed. Apparently her mother had said that's
what would happen and her older brother had supported the mother, however the father would not allow it apparently. Kalsoom said she'd always been his
favourite so guess she was lucky. Loss of face in the community was far more important than her own daughter and thereafter kalsoom was stuck in a
burqa to atone for her behaviour.
Turns out the mother ended up telling everyone I was a social worker paying a visit, but the crap they got from other women who refused to speak to
them for months, wrote stuff on their door, threw things at Kalsoom, some of the women on the street even advocated killing Kalsoom too. I told her
that if she wanted out of this situation she could come to me any time but she refused she said it was her duty and she had to accept what happened to
her because she was disabled and dirty. Few months later Kalsoom disappeared and never came back to work. Rumour had it that she had been shipped off
WE cannot fight this only THEY can fight it and that's only if they want to do so