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Reports of Possible Terror Attacks in London

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posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:53 PM
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originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: gosseyn

Seriously? You think human rights are so bad in the West? Where have you been living under a stone? I'm not even going to list the Islamic world's human rights violations as surely everyone is well aware of them but come on, the UN are not even on a par with those countries

I am saying western countries don't invade middle east countries because of human rights concerns.




posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:53 PM
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a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Yes, you also mentioned it in my thread about the FF.

The problem with that is rarely do you hear about the foiled plots. I don't doubt that some are..perhaps most.
Point being, when the dust settles, there is a clearly drawn out path describing the whole event that we the public are exposed to. Leaving to wonder how in the world with all the supposed safety nets, could this slip through.



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:53 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Acknowledged nor were the Japanese differentiated either

There has to be a cut off point where we can actually do something other than spout words and listen to liberal socialists over and over.

All those on the list....round the buggers up! But they won't because they being the security & intelligence forces think they'll lead to bigger fish no doubt



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:53 PM
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Have any British politicians offered any solutions to combat this?

The nation is under attack and all we get is fake shock, mourning, praying and telling the world we'll stick together.

Those aren't solutions. Has anyone actually stepped up and offered any?
edit on 3-6-2017 by MysticPearl because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:53 PM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: JinMI

I mentioned this in the Manchester thread but MI5 are currently working 500 active cases with 3000 waiting and nowhere near enough staff to tackle this

That problem is down to the Government to solve, if they are actually serious about stopping this crap


No... it falls on the Muslims to solve and they should be primary source of info and help to police.


ok. that should be happening.
now what?

im interested in a real solution.

close the borders and deport everyone on a terrorist watch list.
i like that idea better than bombing the cube

but how to get that done?

someone just mentioned how thinly spread the authorities are.
im just trying to think of a realistic solution.

i just think this is going to be a long long game and the middle east has been playing it far longer than the west.



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth



Nonsense. Arrest them and find out what they know. Evidence is not required to arrest on the suspicion of terrorism.


Of course evidence is required. A terrorist act would to of occurred in which they are suspected to have been involved in.

Otherwise you are just using the force of government to suppress the rights of those that are scary to people like you.

Authoritarianism.


Cut the cr**. You can use your silly labels all you like - typical asinine behaviour.
People on the terror watch list are on it for a reason.
Arrest. Deport or Jail. Hand out comfort blankets to those crying about awthowitawianism.
edit on 3/6/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

MI5 have confirmed that they have foiled or prevented 5 attacks since Manchester



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: fleabit

He wants to control the immigrant flow. Not shut it down entirely.

There is a difference in those two things.



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:55 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: Krakatoa
a reply to: fleabit

All I asked was if you were part of that 14%. If not, wonderful.
Then, what is your solution to this situation?


Send the gift of MOAB to the cube.

They would then take us seriously.

That's an extremely bad idea. What do you think Saudi Arabia would do?


The same thing that Imperial Japan did.

A small island?


Yes, a small island.

Imperial Japanese occupation during WWII.



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:55 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Krakatoa

You forgot the stuffed Teddy Bear makers.


Boycott Teddy bears!!!

...but seriously, I'm going to vomit if I see the usual celebrities lecturing us on TV tomorrow. They use these events for self promotion and virtue signalling (hate that term), and the kids fall for it every time.

I'd like to see someone, somewhere actually try and say something of substance and perhaps try and do something about this situation.

I don't know what the answer is but accepting this as normal is madness.
When we get all fired up and angry and start looking for revenge we will get closer to an all out bloodbath and I don't think anyone really wants that except the terrorists.



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:55 PM
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If we are going to bomb the cube will we bomb Saudi Arabia as well to make sure they won't attack in retaliation?



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Pretty much all of Japan was working on the war effort. Almost every home had a worktable building something that went towards the war effort. This is why the "war crimes" accusation holds no weight. It's completely legal to attack civilians if they're supporting the war effort, ie. factories. Virtually every home was a factory.



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: JinMI
Lets not kid ourselves here. When the dust settles we will see (again) how the perpetrators were known within intelligence circles. The argument will come up that monitoring is simply not enough and for YOUR safety, you will lose more rights. We can look at the consistencies:
*Extremist (Typically a version of Islamic faith)
*Casualties (Typically the perpetrator among)
*Grand plan for mass casualties uncovered but ultimately never realized (Yes I realize that comes out depraved but it is the way they have been reported)
*Loss of freedoms and rights for the innocent
*Known to intelligence communities.


This is a great point. I remember hearing about the Boston Marathon brothers that they were known to authorities, the problem is there is so much info it is hard to act on all of it.

Then why in gods name do we need to surveill regular people even more? In the name of political correctness, our countries are willing to sacrifice the rights of the innocent, and even their lives in terror attacks instead of admitting where the real problem lies.


Simple answer is money. Budget committees tend to ask how that money is justified and surveillance systems and open cases are a shoe-in. In transit, everyone gets a cut.

My opinion is that mitigation of casualties is better than stopping the attacks in their eyes.



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: Krakatoa
a reply to: fleabit

All I asked was if you were part of that 14%. If not, wonderful.
Then, what is your solution to this situation?


Send the gift of MOAB to the cube.

They would then take us seriously.

That's an extremely bad idea. What do you think Saudi Arabia would do?


The same thing that Imperial Japan did.

A small island?


Yes, a small island.

Imperial Japanese occupation during WWII.

Yes I know? What's your point?
Your argument would hold water if the Japanese people were as widespread in the world as Muslims. Continuing to bomb Japan would mean the end of Japan.



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:57 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

Agreed. We in the West have got off pretty lightly in the past compared to the ME and I fear we don't have any real clue how to solve it.

People have been talking the talk about solving the ME problems for years and years and still no further forward. It cannot be solved until there is some form of revision of the Islamic faith. They will continue killing each other and everyone else until told not to. The Ayatollah Khomeni of Iran was kicked out and exiled, then someone decided to topple the Shah & Queen Soraya and Khomeni got back in and started his hate preaching again. Iran was a cool place too really lovely. ALL and I mean ALL the hatred and calls for jihad come from the Imams.

Monitor the mosques and the Imams, do random inspections, close down the bad mosques



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: gosseyn

Well you have all but cheered for these terror attacks.

Please, tell me how that 8 year old girl desrved to die in that Manchester attack? I guess she was cheering on Nato too.

And most of the time, these attackers aren't even from the countries you are claiming Nato bombs.

Also, I suppose you believe these terrorists would be normal upstanding people if Nato wasn't there. They are all just hard working innocent people that were driven to this life by Nato, they hold no personal responsibility, right?

I suppose thats why Isis beheads other Muslims and take child sex brides, and kills homosexuals. (Homosexuals are huge in Nato so that makes sense).

There is room for a civilized discussion on the West terrible foreign interventions.

But your callous attitude and apologies for these terrorists is beyond ridiculous.



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: JinMI

MI5 have confirmed that they have foiled or prevented 5 attacks since Manchester


Also arrested 14 people in connection with Abedi. 14 after the fact!! Think upon that a second. Within the first week of the Manchester bombing they were ready to round up 14.



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: fleabit

He wants to control the immigrant flow. Not shut it down entirely.

There is a difference in those two things.


He is going overboard. Especially in a country founded on the very things he is trying to shut down.



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

i really dont see a problem with deporting people on the watch list.
on the surface that sounds like a no brainer

but what kind of # gets you on the watch list?

that one kinda seems like a no brainer...
was manchester dude on the watch list?

i know the community complained about him to the cops a couple times

i would like to know if he was on it.

if not then either they #ed up and he should have been or he wasnt and in that case deporting people on it might not do much good.

complicated issue for sure



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: MysticPearl

We little people wouldn't be told if they had any solutions. It would be a matter of security and intelligence...but the Government would sure as hell take credit for whatever it was if successful

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