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Is the threat of eternal damnation necessary

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posted on Jun, 26 2017 @ 10:16 AM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
There is no THREAT of eternal damnation in the Bible. o

It is a manufacturing tale made by certain men to draw followers after themselves.


Yes - Hell is promoted to keep the pews and offering plates full.




posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: Lazarus Short

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
There is no THREAT of eternal damnation in the Bible. o

It is a manufacturing tale made by certain men to draw followers after themselves.


Yes - Hell is promoted to keep the pews and offering plates full.


It is very strange my seats in my church assembly are filled not because of fear of going to hell, but because of the Love of God shed abroad in the members hearts by the Holy Ghost. they are there to learn the word of God and how to live a Christian followers of Christs.


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posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Eternal damnation isn't even in the bible.



posted on Jun, 30 2017 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

CORRECT!

But there is eternal damnation, eternal judgement and eternal fire in context with judgement, Also there is the synonym of eternal which is everlasting which is equal to eternal. Everlasting punishment, Everlasting fire and everlasting destruction in connection with that punishment.

Oh and let's not forget the synonym FOR EVER just a few of them you can find in Jude 1:13, Rev 14:11; 19:3; 20:10

Jesus Christ and his direct remaining 11 apostles were the only ones who used eternal, everlasting and forever in context of punishment, fire, destruction and damnation.

Paul never used the term ETERNAL Damnation, Judgement, punishment or Fire, and he used Everlasting Damnation only once. He also never used the term "for ever" in context with any judgment, fire, damnation or punishment.

you will have to understand God's grace as seen in his dealing with Noah to know why he deals with Christians through that grace as well. Hint: God find's grace in those who believe on the ransom of his son for the many.


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posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015


Time to put on your thinking cap and have some spiritual backbone. Why do people behave morally? Or even more fun to think about, why do people behave immorally? And what is the best strategy for having a moral society or a society where behaving morally is important?



People behave immorally because it is their nature, they might know better but that doesn't make them be better.

A duck will always quack, a rabbit will always dig holes.

That's why there is the law. The law is for the immoral. The moral don't need the law, cause they are moral, it's in their nature. Until the immoral becomes moral it's his nature to act immoral.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

What makes you call it a threat when you have a choice?




posted on Sep, 30 2017 @ 10:53 PM
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a reply to: randyvs

It is not a threat. It is a truth but not a threat.



posted on Oct, 1 2017 @ 03:39 AM
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It seems to me it says you go to hell if you don't do something with your life, but who am I?



posted on Oct, 1 2017 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: Out6of9Balance

God warns us in Genesis that the wages of sin is death.

He sent his son to an ungodly wicked world rigid and brutal
by our own making. That we might be redeemed.

He warns us again not to squander his sacrifice and speaks
of a second death. A spiritual death as a fact, not a threat.

And all you can do is judge him harshly with false accusations
and sniveling about being threatened with consequence.

But that sniveling is recognized as a fault in recent years of
our society in regards to elite lawmakers barring parents
from disciplining thier own children.

Raising chidren who never experience consequence and discipline
is neglect. Most of the people raised this way can't deal with life
and responsibility and they lack character. Personality flaws can
crop up out of nowhere socially when consequence presents itself
unexpectedly to a novice. Just like anything else we are not prepared
for mentally.




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