Why we should all vote for Jeremy Corybn

Thats right, I honestly believe that the people of the UK should be voting Labour, Labour is no long the party of Blair and Brown but rather is now the party of the working people with strong liberal and socialist values at its core. Corybn is our populist candidate and I went through and I had a look at some of his previous work in parliament and found some pretty interesting stuff.

I just love this first video, he is standing up to the posh toffs



Years latter and the torries are still at it



This is a video of him sticking it to Thatcher



He spoke out against the Iraq war, one of the few sitting MPs who actually fought against that war



This guy also is a vegetarian who does not drink, does not own a car because he only rides his bike, has spoken out against nukes and remember that whole MP expenses scandal..... he had the lowest expenses level of any MP.

I think he is the real deal, usually I vote SNP, this year am voting labour, its partly a tactical vote because I really want that hag out of government and labour are the only party i believe will be able to kick her and her posh cronies out.

No, no no and a thousands times no.

Labour are the most completely incompetent and corrupt phony champagne socialists. They set up quangos to line pockets of their mafia associates so they can literally bring local and central government to beurocratic stand still with no meaningful reform or progress ever getting done... Look how little Tony Labour acheived in the 13 years they were in power.

Truly the most slimy beings imaginable. Tories are not much better, but at least they have a semi-functional moral compass...

BTW im not looking at this from a political perspective... politically corbyn probably wins my vote every time... but pragmatically he has nothing to offer and doesn't have any direction... i find his politics stale like....
Im looking at this from a human perspective, because I refuse to believe in political bs anymore. If you're in charge just get things done and do them well and don't let government become self serving, or subservient to foreign influence. That's all i ask for in national Managerial roles, aka "politics" (need to wash my mouth out everytime i say that word)

a reply to: 0racle

Its Labour or the torries, labour is the better of the two evils.

anyone who votes conservative needs their head looked at.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: 0racle

Its Labour or the torries, labour is the better of the two evils.

anyone who votes conservative needs their head looked at.

Anyone, and I mean anyone, who would think that Jeremy Corbyn is what the UK needs requires more than their heads to be looked at. This is a man who wants to negotiate with ISIS.

originally posted by: 0racle
...
Truly the most slimy beings imaginable. Tories are not much better, but at least they have a semi-functional moral compass...

Did you actually try googling that quote "tories moral compass"? Funny results..

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: 0racle

Its Labour or the torries, labour is the better of the two evils.

anyone who votes conservative needs their head looked at.

Anyone, and I mean anyone, who would think that Jeremy Corbyn is what the UK needs requires more than their heads to be looked at. This is a man who wants to negotiate with ISIS.

AS opposed to May who just wants to sell your home once your too old or too sick to contribute to society any-more, who wants to drop tax's for the rich.

I suppose we couldn't have a anti-war PM could we?

I have no loyalty to political parties, and vote according to the circumstances at the time. My tendency - which I believe is the inclination of the wider electorate - is to vote for the party that has positioned itself in the centre ground and has credibility

Unfortunately Corbyn represents a left-leaning position. He thinks it's "working class", but it is not. Class is what the old left want to hang on to. It's part of the language of the yesteryear.

What I despise of the Corbyn and his cabal is his support for the IRA and other groups of hate.

While I am sure Corbyn is a nice man, I would not trust him at the helm of a rowing boat, let alone a country.

a reply to: paraphi

Dont get me wrong, he is far from perfect.

I just think we need to get the torries out and i like a lot of what he has to say.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

You are seriously considering a candidate that wishes to negotiate with ISIS?

WOW

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: 0racle

Its Labour or the torries, labour is the better of the two evils.

anyone who votes conservative needs their head looked at.

Anyone, and I mean anyone, who would think that Jeremy Corbyn is what the UK needs requires more than their heads to be looked at. This is a man who wants to negotiate with ISIS.

AS opposed to May who just wants to sell your home once your too old or too sick to contribute to society any-more, who wants to drop tax's for the rich.

I suppose we couldn't have a anti-war PM could we?

Corbyn is going to lose - I can tell you that much. UKIP voters are going to swarm to the Tories, and despite the low number of seats UKIP won, they have millions of voters from the last election.

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

You are seriously considering a candidate that wishes to negotiate with ISIS?

WOW

Apparently it's the lesser of two evils.

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

You are seriously considering a candidate that wishes to negotiate with ISIS?

WOW

Yes, at least trying to talk to them is better than the current policy which is not working.

a reply to: UKTruth

I think you are right on this point, ukip voters are going to defect to the Torries that's basically a extra 4 million votes.

I don't expect labour to win.

I want them to win, but I think they will lose

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

You are seriously considering a candidate that wishes to negotiate with ISIS?

WOW

Yes, at least trying to talk to them is better than the current policy which is not working.

You want to negotiate with ISIS?

Corbyn is a long time terrorist sympathiser - honouring IRA members that were killed in a raid and inviting the IRA to a meeting just two weeks after the Brighton bombing in 1984.

He is scum of the worst kind.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: UKTruth

I think you are right on this point, ukip voters are going to defect to the Torries that's basically a extra 4 million votes.

I don't expect labour to win.

I want them to win, but I think they will lose

When is the election?

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

You are seriously considering a candidate that wishes to negotiate with ISIS?

WOW

Yes, at least trying to talk to them is better than the current policy which is not working.

You want to negotiate with ISIS?

Corbyn is a long time terrorist sympathiser - honouring IRA members that were killed in a raid and inviting the IRA to a meeting just two weeks after the Brighton bombing in 1984.

He is scum of the worst kind.

Negotiations with the IRA lead to the good Friday agreement, the honouring of IRA members was him saying he wanted to honour all of the dead during a event in London.

It was over 20 years ago anyway.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I haven't read all this thread yet so apologies if I'm merely repeating what others have said.

Party politics has failed us miserably.
Politicians put party dogma and allegiance before personal conviction and more importantly their constituents best interests and wishes.
The system is dominated by a political elite who all have very similar backgrounds and have very little life experiences in common with the vast majority of British people.
We need radical reform of both our electoral and parliamentary procedures.

But I'm a realist and I recognise that none of that is going to happen any time soon.
So we must make the best of what we have.

I don't agree with all the policies of any political party - to do so is to be blinded by blind allegiance to a political dogma and party loyalty.
But my core values are best represented by The Labour Party which is why I have voted for their representatives almost every time I've been to the ballot box.

I despise The Tories with a passion and it really makes me want to vomit when I now see them trying to portray themselves as the party of the people. This is after conducting a long and particularly vindictive series of unneccesary austerity cuts largely targeting the most vulnerable within our society whilst at the time offering huge tax breaks for the top earners within our society.
Teresa May as Home Secretary was 100% complicit in this attack on the British people.

But I passionately believe that Britain's future best lies outside the EU and as reluctant as I am to say it The Conservative Party will get us a better deal on Brexit than Labour will.

Our elections seem to be moving towards something akin to a US Presidential election - not what its supposed to be!
We are supposed to vote for the candidate that best qualified to represent their constituents in Parliament.
In my constituency that is without doubt the Labour candidate - the Tory candidate is best described as a complete and utter tosser, I can't remember anything about the Libs representative, the Green candidate seems ok but a bit of a tree hugger and the UKIP guy isn't Nigel Farage so he's irrelevant.

But how can I vote for a man who will unilaterally disarm the UK?
How can I vote for a man who has shared a platform with known terrorists, refused to condemn those terrorists and at the same time criticise our own Armed and Security Services?
How can I vote for a man whose strength of conviction is so weak that he ditched a well known and recorded dislike of the EU as soon as he was elected leader of the party?
How can I vote for a man who appears to pander to almost every PC driven whim of the champagne socialist set that seem to dominate the Labour Party now?

That is the quandary I am in at present......
If only we had a 'Vote for none of the above' option on the ballot paper.

Here is a chart that tells you much about the UK's electorate.



When you are older and more experienced, with responsibilities in life, you tend to vote Tory.
When you are young, radical and unencumbered with much of the realities of life, you tend to vote Labour.

We return to another political debate in which we need to pick sides, black or white... red or blue in this case. There is no grey area, no room for analysis of both arguments, no room to use our grey matter in the grey area.

So we are forced to be black or white, right or wrong. Therefore we need to get knowledgeable, we need to be armed with the knowledge to make the correct decisions.

Let's go get some knowledge... From the newspapers, sorry this won't work because papers are biased, their stories are twisted and their photos are snapshots of action designed to manipulate the reader's mind. Ok then, let's use the TV - even worse... political debates in which the questions are screened, answers are scripted and the whole thing is more organised than an epsiode of Top Gear. Internet? Manipulated sources and misquotes communicated by party liners.

All these intelligent people looking for knowledge to make the correct decisions - but knowledge is not available - only propaganda. We are in the middle of a vast propaganda war.

We believe Corbyn is incompetent because the Tory media tells us so.
We believe May is going to make millions of cuts and bring the country to its knees.

We're forced into this system which is counter intuitive and counter productive. Manipulated by the media we tow the line and talk nonsense on the forums and in the pubs.... everyone is an expert.

a reply to: Freeborn

It's interesting how we have different views on this, personally I am against nuclear weapons, I wish he would just take the step and scrap trident.

I don't mind the idea of attempting negotiating with terrorist groups

And I love his socialist ideals.

I guess it's just differing political view points.