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No, it's old. The power to act wickedly or tell a lie does not equal the will to act wickedly or tell a lie.
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: TzarChasm
Yes, it does suggest a purge, doesn’t it? Especially in the light of God’s instructions to Adam and Eve regarding the Tree of Knowledge, which indicates that Yahweh is pretty sensitive to informed criticism.
I was not trying to describe a motive for God.
I am not interested in other people’s opinions;
It is therefore not a question of ability, what God can foresee, foreknow, and foreordain, for “with God all things are possible.” (Mt 19:26) The question is what God sees fit to foresee, foreknow, and foreordain, for “everything that he delighted to do he has done.”—Ps 115:3.
The argument that God’s not foreknowing all future events and circumstances in full detail would evidence imperfection on his part is, in reality, an arbitrary view of perfection. Perfection, correctly defined, does not demand such an absolute, all-embracing extension, inasmuch as the perfection of anything actually depends upon its measuring up completely to the standards of excellence set by one qualified to judge its merits. (See PERFECTION.) Ultimately, God’s own will and good pleasure, not human opinions or concepts, are the deciding factors as to whether anything is perfect.—De 32:4; 2Sa 22:31; Isa 46:10.
To illustrate this, God’s almightiness is undeniably perfect and is infinite in capacity. (1Ch 29:11, 12; Job 36:22; 37:23) Yet his perfection in strength does not require him to use his power to the full extent of his omnipotence in any or in all cases.
- God cannot lie
- God does not act wickedly
- God is perfect
- God is almighty
originally posted by: DiaJax
a reply to: TzarChasm
Says it in the book
"in the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time," Titus 1:2
Astyanax:
I am not interested in other people’s opinions
whereislogic
Then it's strange to ask for them while giving your own opinion and preferred interpretation for the word "omnipotent"
originally posted by: DiaJax
a reply to: TzarChasm
Within the context of this thread anything found in the book is to be taken as factual. (You'll have to suspend your disbelief.) This in itself doesn't generate a plot hole, but in combination with something else it very well could.
my point was...
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: whereislogic
- God cannot lie
- God does not act wickedly
- God is perfect
- God is almighty
how do you know he is/was unable to lie?
originally posted by: Idreamofme
a reply to: DiaJax
2. God asking dude to kill his son. If the heavens parted right now and god came down himself and asks me to murder my kids... we arent gonna be friends. Send me to hell, whatever you wanna do, but i aint killing my kids. And how dare you ask me to do such a thing!!! Thats a disgusting way to test someones faith.
originally posted by: spy66
There is one God in the bible that does lie and deceive, And that is "Lord God". Lord God's first deceiption and lie tok Place in the garden of Eden.
Lord God is the evil God we all read about it the old testament. But Lord God is not thee God of genesis Chapter 1. Lord God appeared after God rested on the seventh day : Genesis Chapter 2.
originally posted by: silo13
originally posted by: spy66
There is one God in the bible that does lie and deceive, And that is "Lord God". Lord God's first deceiption and lie tok Place in the garden of Eden.
Lord God is the evil God we all read about it the old testament. But Lord God is not thee God of genesis Chapter 1. Lord God appeared after God rested on the seventh day : Genesis Chapter 2.
Where do you get this complete rubish?
Lord God? There is no 'Lord God' other than God and there's nothing in Genisis 2 to support your claim.
peace
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2, And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: whereislogic
The word ‘omnipotent’ has only one meaning and it is not open to interpretation.
The word "Omnipotence" derives from the Latin term "Omni Potens", meaning "All-Powerful" instead of "Infinite Power" implied by its English counterpart. The term could be applied to both deities and Roman Emperors. Being the one with "All the power", it was not uncommon for nobles to attempt to prove their Emperor's "Omni Potens" to the people, by demonstrating his effectiveness at leading the Empire.[3]
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In the scholastic understanding, omnipotence is generally understood to be compatible with certain limitations or restrictions.