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Trump Wants To Defund Programs That Help Small Farmers Survive

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posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:08 PM
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Federal initiatives that have been a lifeline for farmers and rural communities are on the chopping block.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

This is another example of Trump’s lack of concern for the small guy, here the small guy is the small farmer, the backbone of our nation

Even republicans are against this



Republicans are already fighting back against President Donald Trump’s budget proposal for 2018, which calls for reduced spending on agriculture subsidies


Trump’s Budget Proposal Guts Farm Subsidies, Republicans Not Happy


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This kind of support, advocates say, is especially important when many U.S. farmers are struggling with falling income and rising debt, as well as the extreme weather challenges associated with climate change.
And yet the program is on the chopping block.
As part of a proposed 21 percent reduction in the USDA’s overall spending, President Donald Trump’s budget plan calls for eliminating the funding for VAPG and other rural development programs under the department’s Rural Business-Cooperative Service.
The programs were deemed “duplicative and underperforming” in the president’s skinny budget. Neither USDA nor Office of Management and Budget officials responded to a request for further explanation of the proposal


Wes King, policy specialist at the National Sustainable Agriculture Coalition, said the elimination of these programs could be devastating for many smaller farmers.
“If this were to go away, I think you would have a number of farms that would probably end up closing up shop,” King told HuffPost.
Anna Johnson, a policy program associate at the nonpartisan Center for Rural Affairs, described the RBCS cuts as particularly alarming when combined with massive cuts proposed for other initiatives aimed at rural communities, like zeroed-out funding for the Rural Economic Development Program as well as the USDA’s water and wastewater loan program, which helps fund rural infrastructure projects.



I’d bet you a dime to a dollar that the programs like the tax breaks for the oil companies will NEVER cut under Trump




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posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
I’d bet you a dime to a dollar that the programs like the tax breaks for the oil companies will NEVER cut under Trump.


No business or industry should be getting government handouts. The Federal Government should not be in the business of picking winners or losers.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:14 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Willtell
I’d bet you a dime to a dollar that the programs like the tax breaks for the oil companies will NEVER cut under Trump.


No business or industry should be getting government handouts. The Federal Government should not be in the business of picking winners or losers.



Fine, then lets wait and se Trump cut the tax breaks for the rich

Then Ill listen to you

A Brief History of Big Tax Breaks for Oil Companies






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posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
Fine, then lets wait and se Trump cut the tax breaks for the rich

Then Ill listen to you


That isn't the same thing that I mentioned. A better analogy would be to see if he cuts one subsidy but not others.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:19 PM
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I'm not informed enough about these particular programs to specifically address these issues, but I couldn't help think of another article I read this morning: Venezuela’s paradox: People are hungry, but farmers can’t feed them

Not because there aren't farmers willing to farm, and not because there isn't land to farm, but because of misguided and/or ill-intentioned government interference.

The particulars of our situations are not the same, but our need for food sure is! Big Ag is not serving us well. Small local farmers -- just like all small local businesses -- are the backbones of any community. We need to ensure they don't just survive, but thrive, for everyone's benefit.

It's just not wise to bite the hand that feeds you.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

These small farmers who are becoming obsolete in an age of Monsanto…

Read the link



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
These small farmers who are becoming obsolete in an age of Monsanto.


The cause to me is irrelevant. If your business model is not profitable the government should not be subsidizing you at the expense of others.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:30 PM
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Yea bro.....and I am as serious as......these small farmers need to go old school two team draft horse and a plow if they have to survive. Amish still do it.

And who they trying to feed themselves or make a buck in the market? Two different things there.

Around here there used to be many roadside farm markets. All gone now but the idea is looking better. You got a few acres.....there you go thats the deal.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:31 PM
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This is a hard lesson for those duped lower middle class people in the rust belt who were deceived and voted for Trump.

He IS NOT FOR THE POOR OR MIDDLECLASS

He is being a typical GOP politician....By as usual robbing the poor to give to the rich!

Trump releases budget hitting his own voters hardest



The president's proposal for next year's federal spending calls for more than $1 trillion in cuts to social programs, including farm aid.


www.politico.com...



Donald Trump, whose populist message and promises to help American workers propelled him to the White House, issued a budget proposal on Tuesday that instead takes aim at the social safety net on which many of his supporters rely.

Rather than breaking with Washington precedent, Trump’s spending blueprint follows established conservative orthodoxy, cutting taxes on the wealthy, boosting defense spending and taking a hatchet to programs for the poor and disabled – potentially hurting many of the rural and low-income Americans who voted him into office.




posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

These small farmers who are becoming obsolete in an age of Monsanto…

Read the link





You mean in an age of chemicals that kill all bug and weeds, air conditioned tractors ect. Real farming is no place for anything but the hardest sort.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:35 PM
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They couldn’t beat Obama twice so they got a arch deceiver who claimed he would help the poor, lower and middle class. That doesn’t look to good now does it?



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Things need to survive without artificial support.

Subsidies only prolong the inevitable and waste tax payer money.


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posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
They couldn’t beat Obama twice so they got a arch deceiver who claimed he would help the poor, lower and middle class. That doesn’t look to good now does it?


And send all the Mexicans back...

Now crops are rotting in the fields with no one to harvest them.

www.agweb.com...



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:50 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Willtell

Things need to survive without artificial support.

Subsidies only prolong the inevitable and waste tax payer money.



Not true. You’re just espousing dogma my friend that may sound good but doesn’t jibe with reality. In an age of the big Agra business, small farmers are being wiped out. Do some research and you’ll see.

That’s why even the usual selfish republicans even support the aid to small farmers.

theeconomiccollapseblog.com...



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Willtell
These small farmers who are becoming obsolete in an age of Monsanto.


The cause to me is irrelevant. If your business model is not profitable the government should not be subsidizing you at the expense of others.

Actually it is part of the governments job to help farmers. How do you hope to promote the general welfare of the nation without food?



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:58 PM
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“Economic opportunity in these rural areas is a really big issue, and these areas face higher levels of poverty,” Johnson said. “These are really important programs. For the administration to propose eliminating these supports is troubling for rural communities.”


The source is really pulling the heart strings when massive farms are getting massive handouts just as they do here in the EU .
Small farmers and 'rural communities' are already nearly non-existent because of it . Land might well get cheaper and thus help them develop again , while megafarms become less of a viable investment .

I don't think the huffpost wants to see it that way ! The day we get rid of EU subsidy for landowners which are already asset rich is a day I'd be happy with .



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:58 PM
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I bet Como, MS voted Democrat.




posted on May, 28 2017 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Willtell

Things need to survive without artificial support.

Subsidies only prolong the inevitable and waste tax payer money.


You should give that speech to the oil companies, Pharmaceutical companies and all the defense contractors we waste hundreds of billions on every year.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: Willtell


Yup, keep giving 'subsidies' to those little guys like ADM.

Yup, all three thousand (plus) oil companies in Texas, alone, are big, international 'monsters'.

You can't get either example anywhere near a proper context.

I suspect 'Democrats' will be named an endangered species sooner rather than later. On a par with the Dodo bird....


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posted on May, 28 2017 @ 05:03 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Willtell
These small farmers who are becoming obsolete in an age of Monsanto.


The cause to me is irrelevant. If your business model is not profitable the government should not be subsidizing you at the expense of others.

Actually it is part of the governments job to help farmers. How do you hope to promote the general welfare of the nation without food?


Somehow I suspect there's been food production long before subsidies. Kind of disingenuous to suggest there'd be 'no food' without subsidies.




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