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Narrative Destroyed: ‘White Supremacist’ Portland Stabbing Suspect Is A Bernie Bro

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posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:51 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: Deaf Alien

What exactly is the alt-right, besides being a buzzword liberals like to use to paint anyone who disagrees with them as a neo-Nazi?

Check out the website of the person who coined the term to get an idea.
Richard Spencer


Did you answer the question?

Most people hadn't even heard of the thing until Hillary labelled ALL of her opposition it, which most people took to the term at the moment just to mock her.

At which point the entire liberal media platform (which at the time was every station except Fox) [which also now apparently includes UK media], and resident liberals here in ATS, started closely following and loudly reporting on every little thing they could about the "Alt-Right", white nationalism, and and proper white supremacy, which effectively gave them a platform while making them a household name ALL THE WHILE the SJ obsessed left has been out in lynchmob form goosestepping the streets and the schools pushing people into their camp, and the supposed mainstream moderate left has been out working hard across social media defending them even in cases of mass murder and abduction / torture.

And if anyone comes and criticizes all this crap, oh that means we get labelled "republicans" / "conservatives" / partisan hacks / alt-right / racists / misogynists / homophobes / xenophobes / etc, and yes that even includes right in enlightened diverse ATS.




posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:51 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
Agreed. Same thing goes for all the "lefties are doing all the rioting and looting" crap as well.


Yeah, except that happens to be true. Please feel free to point out an example of the right looting and rioting. It's also not some lone lunatic popping off like in this case. The real issue is the refusal of the leftist media lapdogs and the lunatics who run the democratic party to point out the obvious, political violence and attacking free speech is bad. They only give a crap when they think they can connect it to Trump. Then everyone needs to condemn it



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 05:03 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

It's pretty ironic you should say that since I don't see you condemning the alt-right.


The alt-right are this little club. Twerps, at best.

The SJW left are the mainstream of liberal politics. Goosestepping lynchmob bullies, bonafide.

Threads like this, topics like this that is (this is but a spin off thread), about select nutter individuals, propped up by the SJW left to justify their own existence, as if its a real deal ordeal that in the mainstream of conservatives / Republicans / libertarians / etc are into this stuff / agree with their motives / think like them / support them / are in league with them / and so on.

That is, its a pat ourselves on the back see we told you we should have been out lynchmobbing white people the last 4 years, etc.

And its all a sham.

And people are sick of it.

So they post about it.

And then you come in and argue with them.

But then turn around and say SJW's aren't the mainstream, that you dont support them.

And then I say we gotta stop these bastards from turning this little white nationalism club into a true social movement counter-part to the SJW hordes that have infected liberalism from top to bootom.

And then you say oh well you dont criticize (virtue signal) the Alt-Right (which would be s symptom of the SJW effects on our society) at every possible turn, and instead you focus on the source of our society's current trend of social malady.

And then I have to do this damn summary to hopefully get through to you that the SJW's are tearing our society apart, and by coming in and arguing with 'everybody' that opposes them you're helping them in the bulk of their efforts.

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posted on May, 28 2017 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: Deaf Alien

What exactly is the alt-right, besides being a buzzword liberals like to use to paint anyone who disagrees with them as a neo-Nazi?

Check out the website of the person who coined the term to get an idea.
Richard Spencer


Did you answer the question?

Most people hadn't even heard of the thing until Hillary labelled ALL of her opposition it, which most people took to the term at the moment just to mock her.

At which point the entire liberal media platform (which at the time was every station except Fox) [which also now apparently includes UK media], and resident liberals here in ATS, started closely following and loudly reporting on every little thing they could about the "Alt-Right", white nationalism, and and proper white supremacy, which effectively gave them a platform while making them a household name ALL THE WHILE the SJ obsessed left has been out in lynchmob form goosestepping the streets and the schools pushing people into their camp, and the supposed mainstream moderate left has been out working hard across social media defending them even in cases of mass murder and abduction / torture.

And if anyone comes and criticizes all this crap, oh that means we get labelled "republicans" / "conservatives" / partisan hacks / alt-right / racists / misogynists / homophobes / xenophobes / etc, and yes that even includes right in enlightened diverse ATS.

I think I answered it pretty well. Why not read Richard Spencer's actual words instead of what other people say about him? Everything you need to know is on his website.

Hillary popularized the term no doubt, but Spencer invented it.

It seems if you're angry about people using the term alt-right in a way that isn't true you'd be angry at the people like Spencer that are causing the confusion.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 05:07 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I can be considered "alt-left". They reject Antifa, BLM and SJW bs. And the media is harping in to those retards too much and the right wing media doesn't help the issue.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: zosimov
Huh, I honestly can say that I never once considered, let alone assumed, that disgusting killer's political leaning.

Am I in a minority or does everyone automatically do this these days?


I didn't either, but unfortunately I did automatically think that others would immediately start pointing fingers at conservatives and republicans.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

Dont paint me as caring about the term when I dont, when I've criticized them a plenty.

Dude pointed out its just another buzzword for the SJ obsessed left to binary paint all of their diverse opposition by, and you jumped in with Richard Spencer.

And now again you're telling me to go read him.

In response to me criticizing liberals for making him a household name by telling everyone to listen to him!

I cant even make this stuff up. I wish I were that good, and I'm even damn good!




posted on May, 28 2017 @ 05:26 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: underwerks

Dont paint me as caring about the term when I dont, when I've criticized them a plenty.

Dude pointed out its just another buzzword for the SJ obsessed left to binary paint all of their diverse opposition by, and you jumped in with Richard Spencer.

And now again you're telling me to go read him.

In response to me criticizing liberals for making him a household name by telling everyone to listen to him!

I cant even make this stuff up. I wish I were that good, and I'm even damn good!


It isn't just another buzz word though, it's an actual concept he created. Whether people use it for whatever political agendas they have doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

"Liberals" didn't make him a household name, his outspoken support of Trump and Breitbart's support for him were the things that got him noticed.

I'm not telling anyone to "listen" to him, just to get their information from the horses mouth and not make opinions formed on what other people say about him.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 06:00 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
But the bottom line is that our government critters are not trustworthy and anyone paying attention knows that.


You know Trump was hated on both sides because he is like the first President not to come from the Government factory. He is the non-politician and everyone hates that except for the silent majority that either voted for him or hated the thought to vote for Hillary and didn't vote.



And that's what changed. Folks have been mighty patient, and given government critters every opportunity to do the right thing, and they've done exactly the opposite, just piling on the already steaming heaping pile of crap. At some point, the dam will break.


Don't you see Trump WAS the change...lol Now Hollywood/media will devote every second to undermine him, but he is the change.



And it may start with the current crop of violent anti-Trump protesters. I think they've mistaken righteousness for weakness. Now that they've decided to violently target Trump supporters at Trump events, only those Trump supporters ready, willing and able to defend themselves will be attending those Trump events -- and I will rightfully so. I don't like it, but there is no virtue in letting bad people do bad things, and if the proper authorities won't do the right thing, then folks have to do what they can. Anyone and everyone has a right not to be assaulted, and anyone and everyone has a right to defend and protect themselves.


They where the 99%ers under Obama...they are anarchist plain and simple. Doesn't matter who is in office.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero
You know Trump was hated on both sides because he is like the first President not to come from the Government factory.


That's why the people voted for him at least! And that's the best thing I can say about him -- well, there's also the very classy and gracious First Lady


But yes, he would seem to be wreaking havoc on the status quo and the filthy establishment, and even if I don't always support or agree with him, I can appreciate what he is doing right.


Don't you see Trump WAS the change...


Trump is a change... but Trump has his work cut out for him. No one is going to give up without a fight and they'll use every dirty trick in the book to thwart any effort by Trump (or anyone) to fight their corruption, much less reform government as a whole. Trump alone cannot do everything. The fight is just beginning.

The question is how are we going to fight that fight, and violence is not the way. Violence needs to be condemned in and of itself, by everyone -- unless and until that "violence" becomes self-defense. And it already has. Especially when law enforcement stands down and allows violence to be perpetrated by one group upon another, and mayors have associations with violent protest groups, and DAs are reluctant or refuse to prosecute, and when judges/prosecutors/private prisons systematically deny defendants their Constitutional rights... That's where our focus must be. If we don't fix the rot at the top, we will have a violent and bloody civil war.


They where the 99%ers under Obama...they are anarchist plain and simple. Doesn't matter who is in office.


And they need to be stopped -- but we can do better than resort to their level. We must do better or there will be blood on everyone's hands.
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posted on May, 28 2017 @ 10:05 PM
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While I'm not a fan of Milo -- at all -- he seems to have better information than those assuming this guy was a White Supremacist Trumpster:

The main thread on this OP didn't say "Trumpster". Being it did say White Supremacist, it was correct in terms that when this man acted he acted with Supremacy and Nationalism, in which he had currently claimed himself to be in more recent social media posts.

The Op title adds in Bernie Bro, which will lead some into their convictions that this killer was politically motivated "Bernie", "SJW" or "Left", rather than Nationalist and Supremacist motivated. Maybe not fully on this site, but Milo followers who are also far right are going to take it to heart.
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posted on May, 29 2017 @ 12:06 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
Agreed. Same thing goes for all the "lefties are doing all the rioting and looting" crap as well.


Uh. Well, they ARE!



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 12:13 AM
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originally posted by: ItCameFromOuterSpace

originally posted by: kaylaluv
Agreed. Same thing goes for all the "lefties are doing all the rioting and looting" crap as well.


Uh. Well, they ARE!

The "righties" gave rise to Nazi Germany.
Beware of extremism on both sides.



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 12:44 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Actually, the Nazi's were fueled by American Progressive Eugenics (turned Identity Politics), American Propaganda techniques, European Socialism / Communism.

They also happened to be Nationalists.

Today, "lefties" think that they're above Nationalism because they're Globalists; they act like Nazi's were totally different than them because today they're Gloablists. As a social construct, they are but two in the same vein of mass social identity notions. Interchangeable. Although, if anything, Globalism would have an even more profound sort of mind control effect than mere Nationalism; or at least a perceived holier than thou effect due to this Multiculturalism touchy feely gushy yummy idealistic obsessionism.

Now regarding those Nazi's, or rather this thread case study, the very thing fueling those students (the White "Patriarchy" as the monolithic oppressors [to be destroyed]) was the exact same sort of paranoid delusion complex the Nazi's wielded against the Jews in their worldly ambitions.

It's a funny thing about Globalism as we've been witnessing it over in Europe: it's effectively Imperialism (Imperial Globalism).

When it was the Nazi's, well they were Global Imperialists (like the USA has become forever since we defeated them).

And as such, we're seeing the same trends here, rapidly rise, ever since the progressive contingent of our imperialist nation turn to hardcore globalism fueled identity politics. I mean we've had other brutal historical happening not technically too different than Nazi Germany, like the Communist Powers, but the blueprint the Nazi's followed was still rather unique and had a very unique outcome. And never before in history has there been such a near identical carbon copy of the techniques, the deployment, and the social effects in terms of timeframe and results. If only Hitlery had won the election we'd have full blown Hitlery's Youth Corps already set in motion, World War 4 in but a handful of years... and if anyone would bet their life that the Final Solution could never happen here well they'd just as easily lose as not.


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posted on May, 29 2017 @ 12:51 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I gave you a star for well thought out post. Still doesn't negate my warning.



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 01:06 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

You're warning is just partisan charged bicker material.

The Nazi's were just as "left wing" as todays "lefties".

But even if not, you know what I'll even throw you a bone and lets just call the Nazi's "right wing"...
we've seen the same brutal scale social experiment consequences in the rise of each Communist power (which happens to be the flag SJW's / Antifa / BLM fly even more than our own USA flag if anything).

When "left wing" or "right wing" or even theocratic (i.e. Islam) extremism merges with Identity Politics, which is a mass mind control technique I call "Hyper-Tribalism", you get the same sort of results.

Your liberal buddies around here they love to keep trying to paint me into a right wing corner for maintaining a deconstructive posture against them, because my approach is the only true threat to their SJW ambitions. Right now the surest way to prevent a true Nazi'esque right wing counter-movement is to stop the SJW's dead in their tracks.

Mere right wing / conservative / Republican / whatever you wanna call any of it politics isn't the actual antidote let alone kryptonite to their game, because right now the whole partisan game is stacked to high hell to further push them into their echo chamber safe spaces and never find common ground with everyone else whom they happen to effectively be bent on pushing into one tight group thus ensuring an endless back and forth cycle of hate (and therefore violence).




posted on May, 29 2017 @ 01:11 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

"You're" Now I know you are trolling but I'll bite.
Now put your argument with the inventor of alt-right and see how far you go.



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 01:54 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

True white supremacists / white nationalists / etc would have just as much use with me as SJW's.

They're the ying to each others yang, on this hardcore Hyper-Tribalist (rabid identity bigotry) metric.

That's what the SJW's dont want people to realize; they themselves are entirely deluded to stumbling over this fact.



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 04:37 AM
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Truth is the states that voted Democrat,Washington,Oregon,Idaho are headquarters for white supremist's,and of no suprise these states consume most of country's liquor,and are welfare states



posted on May, 29 2017 @ 07:34 AM
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originally posted by: Oldtimer2
Truth is the states that voted Democrat,Washington,Oregon,Idaho are headquarters for white supremist's...


I've heard this before -- that there's huge numbers of White supremacists in the Pacific Northwest. Even with some paramilitary training type communes or camps or something. I wasn't sure how much to believe and how much my brother was just pulling my leg.
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