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posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:35 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Do you let a fire burn until the fire truck shows up? Do you leave the rescuing of others to the rescue services?

Don't lamely deflect, I thought better of you, honestly.
Do you advocate fire & rescue services should be funded by taxes in states where they are currently?
Smells socialist as # to me.


You are "lamely deflecting" by bringing up something completely irrelevant.

Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
Don't be a weasel.
I support tax funded food for vulnerable old people.


I find Socratic irony to be indicative of a weasel, especially especially when the weasel isn't very good at it.

Good for you. But I find that to be an excuse to do nothing.


Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
I support it in the UK.
Cat got your tongue?


If you support free meals for the elderly, why don't you offer free meals to old folk?

Same thing, wtf are you saying lol?

*Edit*
I pay my taxes for that.


So you support the government to give the elderly free meals, but you yourself won't do it.

You are babbling. You makes no sense. Of course he would do it genius.


But he doesn't as far as I can tell.

What part of him paying taxes to help them do you not understand?


I understand all of it. I also understand he has no clue where his dollars go, and that he could just as likely be funding the army or fixing potholes. But whatever gives you a piece of mind.

So are you saying that our government deliberately lied to us? And by extension Trump is lying too?




posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope
So again, do you support tax funded meals for vulnerable old people who don't have family to rely on?
Simple yes or no will do.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Do you let a fire burn until the fire truck shows up? Do you leave the rescuing of others to the rescue services?

Don't lamely deflect, I thought better of you, honestly.
Do you advocate fire & rescue services should be funded by taxes in states where they are currently?
Smells socialist as # to me.


You are "lamely deflecting" by bringing up something completely irrelevant.

Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
Don't be a weasel.
I support tax funded food for vulnerable old people.


I find Socratic irony to be indicative of a weasel, especially especially when the weasel isn't very good at it.

Good for you. But I find that to be an excuse to do nothing.


Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
I support it in the UK.
Cat got your tongue?


If you support free meals for the elderly, why don't you offer free meals to old folk?

Same thing, wtf are you saying lol?

*Edit*
I pay my taxes for that.


So you support the government to give the elderly free meals, but you yourself won't do it.

You are babbling. You makes no sense. Of course he would do it genius.


But he doesn't as far as I can tell.

What part of him paying taxes to help them do you not understand?


I understand all of it. I also understand he has no clue where his dollars go, and that he could just as likely be funding the army or fixing potholes. But whatever gives you a piece of mind.

So are you saying that our government deliberately lied to us? And by extension Trump is lying too?


No. I am saying what I said.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
So again, do you support tax funded meals for vulnerable old people who don't have family to rely on?
Simple yes or no will do.


Yes and no.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: Logarock

I don't disagree with you there - families are where it's at


In reality, it's not so simple. Families aren't quite the norm they once were. So many single parent families etc. Fractured and divided communities. Disposable and saveable incomes are decreasing which leaves less to put aside for others. The cost of care often means parents have to sell their homes to pay for it instead of handing them down as inheritance. Their kids aren't buying homes until they're in their 30s. Rents increase which fuels the gap in income versus savings.



I am saying that the problems you list here have come about because the government has already made weak the fabric. One reason single parent homes are so common now.......is our government making it attractive to so many. Communities are fractured and divided because the government comes in and takes from one and give it to the other without to two ever having to look each other in the eye about it.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:40 PM
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This is all good folks, Trump is exposing himself to the fools in the rust belt who voted for him thinking he was a moderate who gave a dam about them.


He fooled all those voters in the swing states he won like Florida, Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin.


Hopefully those people will see the error of their ways
edit on 28-5-2017 by Willtell because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:40 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Do you let a fire burn until the fire truck shows up? Do you leave the rescuing of others to the rescue services?

Don't lamely deflect, I thought better of you, honestly.
Do you advocate fire & rescue services should be funded by taxes in states where they are currently?
Smells socialist as # to me.


You are "lamely deflecting" by bringing up something completely irrelevant.

Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
Don't be a weasel.
I support tax funded food for vulnerable old people.


I find Socratic irony to be indicative of a weasel, especially especially when the weasel isn't very good at it.

Good for you. But I find that to be an excuse to do nothing.


Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
I support it in the UK.
Cat got your tongue?


If you support free meals for the elderly, why don't you offer free meals to old folk?

Same thing, wtf are you saying lol?

*Edit*
I pay my taxes for that.


So you support the government to give the elderly free meals, but you yourself won't do it.

You are babbling. You makes no sense. Of course he would do it genius.


But he doesn't as far as I can tell.

What part of him paying taxes to help them do you not understand?


I understand all of it. I also understand he has no clue where his dollars go, and that he could just as likely be funding the army or fixing potholes. But whatever gives you a piece of mind.

So are you saying that our government deliberately lied to us? And by extension Trump is lying too?


No. I am saying what I said.

I know what you said. What you do not realize is the implication of your statement.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Yeah, you make fair points. I think we channel a lot of our national budgets into defence at the cost of our own populations.

In the UK we're constantly focussing on the welfare families who take and don't give back. There's less attention on the huge companies using the laws to pay little or no taxes. I know it's the same in the states. We're quick to enact legislation that reduces the cost of the welfare families and equivocate to a standstill any effective plans to ensure multi-nationals pay their dues.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Do you let a fire burn until the fire truck shows up? Do you leave the rescuing of others to the rescue services?

Don't lamely deflect, I thought better of you, honestly.
Do you advocate fire & rescue services should be funded by taxes in states where they are currently?
Smells socialist as # to me.


You are "lamely deflecting" by bringing up something completely irrelevant.

Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
Don't be a weasel.
I support tax funded food for vulnerable old people.


I find Socratic irony to be indicative of a weasel, especially especially when the weasel isn't very good at it.

Good for you. But I find that to be an excuse to do nothing.


Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
I support it in the UK.
Cat got your tongue?


If you support free meals for the elderly, why don't you offer free meals to old folk?

Same thing, wtf are you saying lol?

*Edit*
I pay my taxes for that.


So you support the government to give the elderly free meals, but you yourself won't do it.

You are babbling. You makes no sense. Of course he would do it genius.


But he doesn't as far as I can tell.

What part of him paying taxes to help them do you not understand?


I understand all of it. I also understand he has no clue where his dollars go, and that he could just as likely be funding the army or fixing potholes. But whatever gives you a piece of mind.

So are you saying that our government deliberately lied to us? And by extension Trump is lying too?


No. I am saying what I said.

I know what you said. What you do not realize is the implication of your statement.


And you do, I guess.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
So again, do you support tax funded meals for vulnerable old people who don't have family to rely on?
Simple yes or no will do.


Yes and no.

So you support some socialist projects then lol.
I've more respect for Metalicus, at least he's consistantly against any help for citizens funded by taxes.
You make it up as you go along, lol.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Do you let a fire burn until the fire truck shows up? Do you leave the rescuing of others to the rescue services?

Don't lamely deflect, I thought better of you, honestly.
Do you advocate fire & rescue services should be funded by taxes in states where they are currently?
Smells socialist as # to me.


You are "lamely deflecting" by bringing up something completely irrelevant.

Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
Don't be a weasel.
I support tax funded food for vulnerable old people.


I find Socratic irony to be indicative of a weasel, especially especially when the weasel isn't very good at it.

Good for you. But I find that to be an excuse to do nothing.


Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
I support it in the UK.
Cat got your tongue?


If you support free meals for the elderly, why don't you offer free meals to old folk?

Same thing, wtf are you saying lol?

*Edit*
I pay my taxes for that.


So you support the government to give the elderly free meals, but you yourself won't do it.

You are babbling. You makes no sense. Of course he would do it genius.


But he doesn't as far as I can tell.

What part of him paying taxes to help them do you not understand?

I'd pay an extra ten pence in the pound in taxes if I knew it was dedicated to my fellow citizens needing health or social care.
I'll need it myself one day,.



Yes but thats not all you will do. You will also make me pay for it when I know my solutions is better. Your solution is what funds big phar, food stamp dishonesty, welfare fraud.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Do you let a fire burn until the fire truck shows up? Do you leave the rescuing of others to the rescue services?

Don't lamely deflect, I thought better of you, honestly.
Do you advocate fire & rescue services should be funded by taxes in states where they are currently?
Smells socialist as # to me.


You are "lamely deflecting" by bringing up something completely irrelevant.

Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
Don't be a weasel.
I support tax funded food for vulnerable old people.


I find Socratic irony to be indicative of a weasel, especially especially when the weasel isn't very good at it.

Good for you. But I find that to be an excuse to do nothing.


Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
I support it in the UK.
Cat got your tongue?


If you support free meals for the elderly, why don't you offer free meals to old folk?

Same thing, wtf are you saying lol?

*Edit*
I pay my taxes for that.


So you support the government to give the elderly free meals, but you yourself won't do it.

You are babbling. You makes no sense. Of course he would do it genius.


But he doesn't as far as I can tell.

What part of him paying taxes to help them do you not understand?


I understand all of it. I also understand he has no clue where his dollars go, and that he could just as likely be funding the army or fixing potholes. But whatever gives you a piece of mind.

So are you saying that our government deliberately lied to us? And by extension Trump is lying too?


No. I am saying what I said.

I know what you said. What you do not realize is the implication of your statement.


And you do, I guess.

Uh duh?



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:47 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
So again, do you support tax funded meals for vulnerable old people who don't have family to rely on?
Simple yes or no will do.


Yes and no.

So you support some socialist projects then lol.
I've more respect for Metalicus, at least he's consistantly against any help for citizens funded by taxes.
You make it up as you go along, lol.


Like I said, Socratic irony.

Except people have been paying taxes long before socialism existed. Sorry, they are not "socialist projects" in the slightest.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:48 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Do you let a fire burn until the fire truck shows up? Do you leave the rescuing of others to the rescue services?

Don't lamely deflect, I thought better of you, honestly.
Do you advocate fire & rescue services should be funded by taxes in states where they are currently?
Smells socialist as # to me.


You are "lamely deflecting" by bringing up something completely irrelevant.

Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
Don't be a weasel.
I support tax funded food for vulnerable old people.


I find Socratic irony to be indicative of a weasel, especially especially when the weasel isn't very good at it.

Good for you. But I find that to be an excuse to do nothing.


Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
I support it in the UK.
Cat got your tongue?


If you support free meals for the elderly, why don't you offer free meals to old folk?

Same thing, wtf are you saying lol?

*Edit*
I pay my taxes for that.


So you support the government to give the elderly free meals, but you yourself won't do it.

You are babbling. You makes no sense. Of course he would do it genius.


But he doesn't as far as I can tell.

What part of him paying taxes to help them do you not understand?


I understand all of it. I also understand he has no clue where his dollars go, and that he could just as likely be funding the army or fixing potholes. But whatever gives you a piece of mind.

So are you saying that our government deliberately lied to us? And by extension Trump is lying too?


No. I am saying what I said.

I know what you said. What you do not realize is the implication of your statement.


And you do, I guess.

Uh duh?


Then why are you asking me?



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: Logarock
No, not in Britain, nobody loses trheir home and declares bankrupcy because they got cancer and couldn't afford the medical fees.
That is a US thing.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:50 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Do you let a fire burn until the fire truck shows up? Do you leave the rescuing of others to the rescue services?

Don't lamely deflect, I thought better of you, honestly.
Do you advocate fire & rescue services should be funded by taxes in states where they are currently?
Smells socialist as # to me.


You are "lamely deflecting" by bringing up something completely irrelevant.

Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
Don't be a weasel.
I support tax funded food for vulnerable old people.


I find Socratic irony to be indicative of a weasel, especially especially when the weasel isn't very good at it.

Good for you. But I find that to be an excuse to do nothing.


Do you support or condemn free meals for your old folk?
I support it in the UK.
Cat got your tongue?


If you support free meals for the elderly, why don't you offer free meals to old folk?

Same thing, wtf are you saying lol?

*Edit*
I pay my taxes for that.


So you support the government to give the elderly free meals, but you yourself won't do it.

You are babbling. You makes no sense. Of course he would do it genius.


But he doesn't as far as I can tell.

What part of him paying taxes to help them do you not understand?


I understand all of it. I also understand he has no clue where his dollars go, and that he could just as likely be funding the army or fixing potholes. But whatever gives you a piece of mind.

So are you saying that our government deliberately lied to us? And by extension Trump is lying too?


No. I am saying what I said.

I know what you said. What you do not realize is the implication of your statement.


And you do, I guess.

Uh duh?


Then why are you asking me?

Ask what? I am telling you the implication of your statement. Sorry if that bothers you. Deal with it.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

So do you support tax funded meals for vulnerable old people in your country, yes or no?
Please explain as well or I'll assume you are just being an awkward prick.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:50 PM
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I don't care if you want to call it socialist. I call it Humanitarian


Haven't you heard? Humanitarianism isn't compatible with capitalism, and it certainly isn't compatible with the GOP.



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:51 PM
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...an example in one of the stories linked.


But the GOP’s repeal and replace bill now on its way to the Senate also aims to slice some $800 billion out of Medicaid over the next 10 years, a cut that experts tell me will undoubtedly affect the amount of money states will have available to pay for nursing-home care. Thirty-eight states also use Medicaid funds under special waivers to provide some home-delivered meals. Those funds could be in jeopardy, too, portending a bleak future for senior services.


...the actual budget proposal over the next 10 years...

...an increase of nearly $150bn 2027 vs 2017 and an increase EVERY year from 2017 to 2027.

Carry on, though...
edit on 28/5/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 28 2017 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

So do you support tax funded meals for vulnerable old people in your country, yes or no?
Please explain as well or I'll assume you are just being an awkward prick.


I don't care what you assume. This isn't an interview, and no specious threats will force me to answer anything. You can make a point or you cannot. Your choice.



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